Suggestion Warning dont Update to 5.0 if you plan ever to use HB or CFW

Discussion in 'Switch - Exploits, Custom Firmwares & Soft Mods' started by Natehaxx, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. Fluffball

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    True,i wonder if KASLR could mess with their mod in anyway?
     
  2. Soluble

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    I'm guessing we will see a post from them over the next week or 2 confirming or not confirming their mod is future proof on current FWs. That's what I'd do.

    People seem to forget just how much money there was in hardmods.

    Does anyone really think that PSX repair dude in every shopping centre could afford the rent repairing consoles still under warranty!?

    Too many people here discount TX. They were the first team to show a custom boot logo. I hope that we end up with a free solution with emunand. If not then there is a hell of a lot of money heading TXs way.
     
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  3. whateverg1012

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    Downloaded Celeste and a bunch of other updates and DLC before the 5.0 update went live, I'm staying on 4.1.0 as long as necessary.
     
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  4. Fluffball

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    I remember TX from the 360 era and flashing my drive in my pc lol,gosh downloading and burning disks use to be such a pain in the backside in those days!

    I never got into the hardmod scene back in the ps2 era but remember a friend who had one done by a ‘friend’ and it would always crash in games.

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    I expect the entry points to be released soon once 5 has been confirmed to block all known exploits.

    The one upside to all of this is we should get workable solutions sooner as they won’t feel the need to keep them
    Back for future firmware sake,might as well dump everything now if it’s useless past 5
     
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  5. Soluble

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    Game crashing would have been poor burns/discs. Never had an issue on my installs. At the beginning of the 360 FW scene burning was difficult, with security sectors and such. In.the middle it was great, at the back end using specific burners and overoverbur, while tedious was a great accomplishment for all those involved.

    I've said it before and I will say it again, I don't mind either way. But people calling TX money grabbers etc.. They're a business, not freedom fighters.
     
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  7. Rauliki

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    Vita has it too and was hacked
     
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  8. mikey420

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    From what im reading they havent patched a damn thing. Just made it harder to do anything in trust zone.... ok.... trust zone is already obtained with the tegra chip exploits being used. Im guessing this will simply make installing said exploit a lot more complicated.
     
  9. ngtunganh

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    Beside turn off auto system update and turn on airplan mode
    Do I need to do something elso to prevent my switch update to 5.0 ?
     
  10. linuxares

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    Well that's going to be intresting if it's really unpatchable now.
     
  11. tivanh

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    As it stands now sciresm owns the scene. What a team player without any bullshit....

    All current models are susceptible to the bootrom exploit. There is no yes, no or maybe on that. That means with access to the bootrom through software or hardware, all current models are fully hackable. Team executers statement of lifetime is true for all current socs.

    Remember though team executer is not the same old team from the xbox days. They sold out. Bald bearded nipples here and garyopa know all about this. Its a conglomeration of hack teams like gateway, true blue, sky, etc.

    A susceptible bootrom without access to it is a stall point as per sciresm's. Sure he'll find a path in time.

    If you want to hack your swicth get a model before the new soc is mainstream. If you want it sonner and a softmod solution stay on lower firmware. If you don't mind a hardmod then update and wait for executer.

    Its not that hard to grasp whats happened here. All current models suffer a HARDWARE flaw, aka a bootrom exploit that is UNPATCHABLE in software. The entry point to it is though for softmod solutions but not hardware, aka modchip solutions as team executer states.

    I'd much rather see us all have a free solution seeing the tactics the hardmod community use but both markets will have users.

    Get a current switch and relax in waiting for your solution. Unless they do a ps4 pro, xbox x, switch xl, etc there is no reason to grab a new model and there is certainly enough vulnerable switches in the wild according to the sales figures to occupy every single pirate the swicth will ever actually see.

    Theer's no stress here unless we crave for updated superior hardware in a reviewed model. None at all.
     
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  12. HexZyle

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    You've doomed us all!
     
  13. wolven9

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    Ok so get this, I'm still on 4.1 and can freely use the E-shop and play splatoon online without updating. Is that normal? I figured it would instantly block me from everything
     
  14. thekarter104

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    I wonder if you can still play balloon hide and seek in Odyssey, otherwise I just disable my router and enjoy the game offline and the Kirby demo.

    Also get the games you want now actually.
    Remember the days where BotW started to come with 3.0.1?

    Wouldn't be surprised when some Switch launch titles come with 5.0.0 already. New cart revisions.
     
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  15. CatmanFan

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    *reads title*
    ok
     
  16. ukee

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    There's a bunch of scheduled maintenance for the eShop/online services per this schedule here.
    It might restrict access to the eShop/online services after the maintenance for Switches that are on firmware < 5.0.
    Can't really be sure of it though, it might be something else totally.
     
  17. mikey420

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    Regardless of the documentation the flaw would be executed befofe the kernel is ever loaded in memory. Meaning in all models known to date this hack will work. The kaslr will not defeat a known flaw in the hardware that controls the execution of the bootchain. The only thing that will is a new hardware revision that doesnt have this flawed chip in it.. however this new security may well make it a little more of a pain in the ass it can and likely has been beaten.
     
  18. ExploitTnT

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    Just picked up a Switch from a German seller and it was on 4.1.0.
    Good that i bought it before he updated it.
     
  19. Onibi

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    I think these thoughts miss the benefit of a mod-chip solution. With a mod-chip, you can not (much less) screw up your setup. You can for example recover from something like installing an official update on accident (on the internal NAND/TX) or installing a broken CFW.

    While the hypervisor will certainly make switch less susceptible to non-recoverable installation issues, it's still nice to have a flawless timeless (for V1) HW triggered gliched bootrom execution, if possible. I would certainly consider buying one if it is not overpriced (which I am however sure it will be).

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    What? No!
    Go to the FW thread in the Forums here. Then go to a Saturn close to you. You can get a 3.0.0 or lower without issue :O
    EDIT: Oh I see you are from Austria. NVM :)
     
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  20. reminon

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    ktemkin mentioned her bootrom exploit requires no software bug, and that if TX released without proper disclosure, she has a modchip designed.
     
  21. Onibi

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    Well, either you need a software entrypoint or a hardware entrypoint, at least once.

    I think what she does is even worse then trying to make a buck. This 'I am gonna release nothing, but if others don't do what I want them to do I mess with them' is not helpful. It holds back people like TX to release anything for fear of not getting payed, and she does nothing either with her knowledge until then, thus nothing is released. She is basically holding everybody hostage and creating a stall. Meantime we are also supposed to care about her teasing. Yay ... (Same goes for Failoverflow.)

    That said, while I could flash my own chip and mod the switch (with such a guide or software), It typically is more messy then a nice clamp on solution (that you can potentially reuse in a few other devices and take out). So depending on the price, I would buy a chip from TX. First to support them doing 'something' (even if sadly not open) second becose it is a bit cleaner.
     
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