Waiting for a stable Swiss release, or buying a Wode ?

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  1. QueenKong
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    I'd like to play at NGC games from a HDD. What is the best thing to do ? Thx ! [​IMG]
     
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    Hard to say. There are quite some differences between the two, so I'd say it is a matter of preference. Lemme see (this is from memory, so someone correct me if I'm wrong):

    WODE:
    + plays most or all games
    + loads from USB
    - costs more (about 80 bucks?)
    - requires opening your wii

    SWISS:
    + cheaper (especially if you buy an sd-gecko)
    + not needed to open your wii (just plug it in the correct slot)
    - no USB (either SD or IDE)
    - game compatability isn't perfect (yet?) (note: this is kinda hard to say...the compatability list is rather blank)


    There are more quality-aspects about both (user friendliness comes to mind), but I can't compare those without having actually tried either. But all in all, I'd say both are very valid products. [​IMG]
    It has to be noted that a comparison is also quite unfair at this point, as swiss is still very new. Updates are coming out on a very regular basis, and rumors have it that its future might be even better (heard about an USB-gecko or even the front SD slot possibly becoming available).



    Personally...I'm still waiting for that sd-gecko to arrive by mail, so my preference is clear. It's partially because of the cost, but also because I like seeing a program comes together. Knowing myself, I probably get tired of at least half the games as soon as I find out they actually work perfectly. [​IMG]
     
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    I really hope that a solution to allow loading a game over USB Gecko is found.
     
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    Right now Wode is far better, but costs more and requires to open the Wii as stated already. Audio streaming is nothing you should hope for with both, although it should be technically possible with a Wode, but they failed when they made it...

    There will be, but it will be as slow as SD Gecko loading and require a connected PC.
     
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    in addition to wever's list

    WODE
    supports multiple filesystems, partitions, and HDDs.
    doesnt require, but has supporting homebrew such as wodeflow
    had a SD card slot, so it doesnt not require HDD as wever said
    supports USB->sata or USB ->IDE adapters so pretty much any HDD will work

    SWISS
    only IDE, no SATA. whats the biggest IDE HDD youve ever seen?
    only FAT/FAT32 ( correct me if im wrong )
     
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    Once there's fragmentation support in Swiss, NTFS support the same way as it's done in the USB loaders might be doable.
     
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    If you have the money, I would say WODE.
     
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    What is really this audio streaming problem that you're always speaking of ? What games in particular does it concern ?Is it really annoying, can't we patch the games or something, by extracting their soundtrack and reinjecting it elsewhere in the iso ?
     
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    Same here: wait for Swiss or buy a Wode?? dont know what to do...
     
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    Look in the compatiblity list, all games that mention missing audio, or say "doesn't work shrunk" or "doesn't work on multi game disc". Extracting and playing at a PC should work, as Dolphin is able to play them. Injecting them into the games to the games play them manually instead of letting the drive do it sounds interesting, but i doubt it will work. (
     
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    SATA HDDs will work with a SATA-IDE-Adapter.
    There will be NTFS support in the future for sure.
    Also, audio-streaming might be doable with Swiss and the IDE-EXI as emu_kidid mentioned it somewhere at his site if I recall correct. I just cant find the link where he mentioned it anymore [​IMG]

    Anyways, I think Swiss has a bright future.
     
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    i have no where else to air this idea though.
    if we could somehow get a version of SWISS that supported comand line arguments for autobooting of a specified file, we could create 'iso forwarders' for GC games ina similar fashion as for wiiware with 'WAD2ISO'. that would be GREAT! being able to select a GC game from a loader right next to the other titles. is there any way of 'passing' this idea to emu_kidd?? im sure someone could whip up a version of swiss booter for us wii users that could pass the game launching arguments to the swiss dol, correct? this would be a great step forward!
     
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    please stop posting this in every swiss related thread you can either ask on emu_kidid's site or make an issue about it on the google code page. either way, i wouldn't hold my breath. swiss is still at a very early stage, and development should be focusing on better compatibility, additional features such as this may be considered when swiss reaches a more stable version.
     
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    So whatever emu_kidd can do with Swiss, the streaming problem can't be solved, right ? Damn. I hoped this problem could at least be softwarly solved...
     
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    Try to read what I posted about the audio-streaming issue.
     
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    Sorry, I hadn't read you post. So it seems a few hopes remain ! Damn, I just can't wait, Swiss is potentially the Wode-killer !
     
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    I have buy a sdgecko very cheap really 5sterlin.
    but i have just run Animal Crossing (perfect n run quickly).
    Zelda windwaker stop to 100% after APPLOADER start.
    I have see a not good sound of DVD drive of wii.. most of STACK! STACK! sound i have hear.. IS RIGHT?
    I have used Swissbooter v3 and swiss latest.
    For DVD i have used SPORT/resort (double game on original disc BUNDLE).
    Emukid_id say swiss is for GC and isn't write for the wii.
     

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