Video Patching questions: To someone that can answer

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  1. Pakatus
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    Hi,

    I was wondering why does no usb loader manages to boot properly in FORCE PAL mode, NMH2 and cloader trough LoadStructor (i guess its this name) can.

    Something in cloader video patch not present in NeoGamma, Wiiflow, GX or CFG?
     
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    What's cloader? And before telling NeoGamma can't do it, explain what you tried until then i'll assume you did wrong.
     
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    cloader= configurable USB Loader im guessing

    Also, what is the problem (e.g. is the screen black/white, is the screen position wrong, etc)?
     
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    Nope...
    I'll explain

    Got NMH2...and trying to boot it in FORCE PAL 50/60 to get it on color into my olde PAL tv.

    With Neogamma/Cfg Loader/wiiflow/GX Loader allways trying to boot it on force PAL would end on either a black screen or a green screen.

    Tried with LoadStructor do build a channel that would boot the game trough cloader (the loader that loadstructor uses)...

    To my awe...it worked...i played the game in full colors while other loaders failled.

    Detailed?
     
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    NMH2 works fine (at least with WiiFlow) if i simply use AutoPatch
     
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    really?
    here in autopatch (i'm a wiiflow user too)...ends up in a black screen...using R25 ...you?~

    can you send me your entry in wiiflow.ini to check your settings?
     
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    anyone? [​IMG] ´

    really curious about this
     
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    NeoGamma won't patch video modes if you only tell it to force a certain video mode.
     
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    thing is....i did...
    Tried it forcing to PAL (all modes) and in boot...it sticks in black screen.
    However in cloader..worked at first.

    Tried today with FFCC (had the same issue)....here it didnt worked
     
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    Get a better translator. Currently it looks like you don't understand what i'm saying nor NeoGamma's options.
     
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    i'm trying to let you know this.
    NMH2 NTSC game
    FORCE PAL option(and nothing else) while booting it on NeoGamma
    Black Screen.

    Just this...,

    Loadstructor
    Same game
    Create channel with Force PAL
    Works in full color.

    As you can see here...this user of neogamma had the same issue (and i stumbled upon users of Cfg and wiiflow with same behaviour).

    http://gbatemp.net/index.php?s=&showto...t&p=2557093
     
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    Sorry, but i give up.
     
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    Reread what WiiPower has said...there's more to it than just the force option. Listen to him, he's the developer of NeoGamma, he knows what he's saying.
     
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    @Wiipower

    Thank you for your help...i think its a problem with my cable. Going to try a good RGB cable
    Anyhow...sorry if this was confusing.
     
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    A rgb cable will make the picture all red instead of black & white. And that even on tvs that are ntsc compatible, which is the reason i added the video mode patches to NeoGamma. If i hadn't a rgb cable, the patches wouldn't be of any use to me personally.

    I have already given up on you. I can't tell if you tried video mode patches in NeoGamma now or not.
     
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    Well WiiPower the video mode patches doesn´t matter did you even tried the game !?
    I only use AutoPatch (in whatever loader) and it works fine so he probably have another problem [​IMG].
     
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    I don't have the game. Do you? If you have it, well are you able to tell if your tv gets a NTSC or PAL signal? I can do that because it's all red on ntsc with my rgb cable, with the crap cable everything is in color on all tvs i have.
     
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    Yes i can, my TV just can´t show NTSC as for you i get B/W btw. R/B depending on the cable i use but this game works fine with AutoPatch and i mean it´s still kind of strange that it loads fine for him with this cLoader but not with any other loader
     
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    Yes...thank you nIxx to make me explained [​IMG]
    Maybe the thread name was wrong to start with, i was more basing this discussion on force video modes, other than patching them:

    My tests:

    Neogamma/wiiflow:
    Video Mode: System
    Patch: All/More/... ----> Allways B/W output

    Neogamma/wiiflow:
    VideoMode: Force PAL (any mode)
    Patch: AutoPatch/any setting ------> Allways black screen

    I'm using the shitty bundled cable with the scart connector.

    with cloader, i created a channel with options (Force PAL 50) ----> Full colors (same shitty cable).

    I'm sorry i didnt made it more clearer.

    EDIT: Seriously...close this thread, no need to deepen into this discussion. I'll wait until arrival of Euro Release.
    Sorry i couldnt explain this better...but it was the first time it happened to me.

    Feeling dumb [​IMG]
     

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