Hacking USB Loader GX was working, but now I get kicked back to Homebrew Channel

[TheMidBoss]

Hello,

Unfortunately it seems I join the many who struggle with the booting back to homebrew from USB Loader GX from probably messing around too much.

Here's the information I have to hopefully make troubleshooting smoother:

Initially I followed the following video's tutorial: (I put it in a spoiler tag to keep the post clean and easy to read)

Spoiler

Since things have stopped working I have looked for threads from this forum that include the user Cyan and have been trying to piece together advice from their posts to no avail.

- A few nights ago I had everything functioning perfectly.
- Then I decided to play a game from a disc (specifically a gamecube game).
- After this I did not try to use USB Launcher GX again for a few days.
- Today I decided to try and swap my 64 GB usb drive for a 32 GB drive after deciding I didn't need 64.
- I did NOT test USB Loader GX before doing this.
- I have successfully moved files and formatted drives multiple times but have not gotten past the blackscreen.
- I have tested both the 64 GB usb drive that was working before, and the new 32 GB drive and neither have gotten past the blackscreen and kick back to homebrew.
- I have tried swapping between IOS 249 and 250 to no avail.
- I have completely wiped USB Loader GX from the system and reinstalled it fresh to no avail.
- WiiFlow's channel (a common recommendation to replace USB Loader GX) seems to just boot me back to the system menu, though I haven't tried a fresh install of it.
- Since then things have not functioned correctly.

I CAN see all my games properly, and they are all wbfs files, put in with Wii Backup Manager (Build 78). All the wii games load to a black screen and eventually back tot the homebrew menu.

I CAN launch GameCube games from USB Loader GX into NintenDONT and they run perfectly. They are however stored on the SD card and NOT the USB drives I've been using for USB Loader GX.

My only caveat here would be I have no more external drives to use instead of a USB drive or an SD card mounted through a USB adapter.

Sys Check:

Spoiler

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)

Drive date: 02.13.2007
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 56003540
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Canada (18)
Boot2 v4
Found 143 titles.
Found 46 IOS on this console. 14 of them are stubs.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 5120): Stub
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400): Stub
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 6912): Stub
IOS80 (rev 6944): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS249[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 07/16/2019.

 

[Alexander1970]

Hello,

Unfortunately it seems I join the many who struggle with the booting back to homebrew from USB Loader GX from probably messing around too much.

Here's the information I have to hopefully make troubleshooting smoother:

Initially I followed the following video's tutorial: (I put it in a spoiler tag to keep the post clean and easy to read)

Spoiler

Since things have stopped working I have looked for threads from this forum that include the user Cyan and have been trying to piece together advice from their posts to no avail.

- A few nights ago I had everything functioning perfectly.
- Then I decided to play a game from a disc (specifically a gamecube game).
- After this I did not try to use USB Launcher GX again for a few days.
- Today I decided to try and swap my 64 GB usb drive for a 32 GB drive after deciding I didn't need 64.
- I did NOT test USB Loader GX before doing this.
- I have successfully moved files and formatted drives multiple times but have not gotten past the blackscreen.
- I have tested both the 64 GB usb drive that was working before, and the new 32 GB drive and neither have gotten past the blackscreen and kick back to homebrew.
- I have tried swapping between IOS 249 and 250 to no avail.
- I have completely wiped USB Loader GX from the system and reinstalled it fresh to no avail.
- WiiFlow's channel (a common recommendation to replace USB Loader GX) seems to just boot me back to the system menu, though I haven't tried a fresh install of it.
- Since then things have not functioned correctly.

I CAN see all my games properly, and they are all wbfs files, put in with Wii Backup Manager (Build 78). All the wii games load to a black screen and eventually back tot the homebrew menu.

I CAN launch GameCube games from USB Loader GX into NintenDONT and they run perfectly. They are however stored on the SD card and NOT the USB drives I've been using for USB Loader GX.

My only caveat here would be I have no more external drives to use instead of a USB drive or an SD card mounted through a USB adapter.

Sys Check:

Spoiler

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)

Drive date: 02.13.2007
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 56003540
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Canada (18)
Boot2 v4
Found 143 titles.
Found 46 IOS on this console. 14 of them are stubs.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 5120): Stub
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400): Stub
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 6912): Stub
IOS80 (rev 6944): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS249[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 07/16/2019.

Hello.

According to your sysCheck @XFlak ´s ModMii suggests:

You can use it from here with a very nice tutorial:

https://gbatemp.net/threads/modmii-for-windows-official-support-topic.207126/

Thank you.

 

[TheMidBoss]

Hello.

According to your sysCheck @XFlak ´s ModMii suggests:

View attachment 173223

You can use it from here with a very nice tutorial:

Thank you.

Thank you for your help.

I have followed the ModMii instructions perfectly and it has not solved the issue whatsoever. I have run another SysCheck and ModMii says that everything is up-to-date and installed properly.

What are my options now? Just continuing to format drives and backup the files again?

Thank you for your time.

 

[Cyan]

I'm not sure suggesting a modmii syscheck update to everyone is the best way to fix all issues.
sometime (often?) the issue is user's oriented like just the HDD plugged in the wrong USB Port, or using flashdrive instead of HDD. updating unused IOS are really useless steps.
Wii game backup do NOT use any IOS other than custom ones (because they need USB access patch added). there's no reason to update the IOS below 200. it won't fix anything and won't help anyone.

You need to understand what the user is doing and what is wrong from it, and suggest the proper fix instead of common identical setup for everyone. (remember, I told you what's important is the base IOS and which game you want to play, not everybody needs the same setup).
Updating is not the solution to everything.


Here the problem is : files not found on the drive at Wii game launch. it works while inside the loader (probably because using IOS58).
so it can be two things :
- no cIOS installed (not the case here)
- drive not compatible with cIOS (most likely)

- Today I decided to try and swap my 64 GB usb drive for a 32 GB drive after deciding I didn't need 64.

This is the step which broke everything : FLASHDRIVE ARE NOT COMPATIBLE. some are, but most are not. you just replaced your working one with a non working one.

You said you tried the 64GB again, but was it FAT32 before? it might have been WBFS or NTFS instead. WBFS work better with flashdrives.

Or you just plugged the drive in the wrong port. cIOS are working with USB Port 0 only (bottom on Wii, back-top on WiiU)

 

[TheMidBoss]

I'm not sure suggesting a modmii syscheck update to everyone is the best way to fix all issues.
sometime (often?) the issue is user's oriented like just the HDD plugged in the wrong USB Port, or using flashdrive instead of HDD. updating unused IOS are really useless steps.
Wii game backup do NOT use any IOS other than custom ones (because they need USB access patch added). there's no reason to update the IOS below 200. it won't fix anything and won't help anyone.

You need to understand what the user is doing and what is wrong from it, and suggest the proper fix instead of common identical setup for everyone. (remember, I told you what's important is the base IOS and which game you want to play, not everybody needs the same setup).
Updating is not the solution to everything.


Here the problem is : files not found on the drive at Wii game launch. it works while inside the loader (probably because using IOS58).
so it can be two things :
- no cIOS installed (not the case here)
- drive not compatible with cIOS (most likely)


This is the step which broke everything : FLASHDRIVE ARE NOT COMPATIBLE. some are, but most are not. you just replaced your working one with a non working one.

You said you tried the 64GB again, but was it FAT32 before? it might have been WBFS or NTFS instead. WBFS work better with flashdrives.

Or you just plugged the drive in the wrong port. cIOS are working with USB Port 0 only (bottom on Wii, back-top on WiiU)

Thank you for your input! Strangely enough I just copied a version of USB Loader GX from the install that used to work (I ended up finding it as I had accidentally backed it up), and everything seems to be functional for now. I believe I may have also changed the USB slot I used (would the files show up in the wrong usb port, but not be bootable?)

Not sure if this information helps in any way, because I'm not even sure what the change would be. I tried a bunch of proper troubleshooting steps before this worked, so I imagine that formatting the USB again using the recommended tools, and re-installing the files using the Wii Backup Manager was what actually solved it.

 

[Cyan]

yes, the files are displayed but not bootable if plugged in the wrong USB port.
nintendont can use either port, but not wii games.

 

[TheMidBoss]

yes, the files are displayed but not bootable if plugged in the wrong slot.
nintendont can use either slot, but not wii games.

I do remember swapping earlier, while things still weren't working (likely the incompatible drive like you said), that definitely must have been an issue during troubleshooting. Strange but thanks for the update! All solved now.

 

[Cyan]

just remember that flashdrives are not the best idea.
if yours is working, good for you !
but they tend to freeze at write time (downloading covers, cheats, dumping disc to wbfs, creating memory card, etc.)

but I think it won't be a big problem if you use SD card for gamecube games.


Oh, also but rarely thought when helping users : if the file has the write protected attribute, the game doesn't launch.
that wasn't the case here, but just wanted to put it here for anyone reading this thread for launch issue.