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Biden did the right thing, the media will try to make him pay.

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Who knows, they are also known to stage things such as this to shape the conversation. Even if they didn't, Im not going to point to a single crazy person as having more meaning than a single crazy person did something crazy. Context is that there are over 350 million people in the country.
the issue is that the uptick of these "kinds" of situations has Blown up recently (mask attack, school board meetings, asian attacks, Captiols ). .. but have to admit in the Middle of a convo of Domestic Extremist VS Foreign. That situation I think proved a point.
 

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OH quick up that THE Domestic Extremist that almost Blew up the D.C today is custody
Capitol news - live: MAGA bomb suspect surrenders after hours-long standoff with police and rant about Biden
"Suspect was upset about result of presidential election, wife says"
Thats a Reminder that Extremist can happen anywhere in the world. Placing Complete blame on one Region of the World is dangerous and Some might say based on Racial discrimination.

"Extremist" Big fat lie. He isnt an extremist but a person who is very very unhappy and displeased of the whole Biden administration. You are comparing one single person to a whole GROUP Of people with malicious intentions of harming, killing people at no cost.

Your only concern now is about a person in the States who was very unhappy with Joe Biden, instead of all the people who at this very moment are at their worst moment of their lifes, fearing that they will be killed. Seriously, is that all you care? Not a single thing or emphaty for the people there who are in inminent danger of losing their lifes because ice cream Joe botched this up? Wait until then Alqaeda shows up in US soil and start attacking. Lets see if its the "same" as one single person.

Still no answer from you lot as to why Kamala Harris is avoiding the media like the plague and Biden walking away from any press conferences. The WH scrapped any conferences with Joe Biden regarding the Afghanistan fiasco, in other words he WILL not give any answers to any press, doesnt say that much? I dont recall Trump EVER doing that, even when he was attacked by the MEDIA.

So to sume it up, you have a president in a sinking ship that doesn't know where to to go and is leaving its citizen at their own fate.

There are video's circulating on the internet of the extremist executing people, but i guess you dont care. There is one of a police commander that got captured in Herat being blind folded and killed, nothing to say about that? Probably not, as long it doesnt affect you.
 
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"Extremist" Big fat lie. He isnt an extremist but a person who is very very unhappy and displeased of the whole Biden administration.
The moment you stated that the Guy who wanted to BLOW UP D.C because of Political views ..is "not a terrorist/ Domestic extremist" . tell me all I need to know about you....Later
 
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The moment you stated that the Guy who wanted to BLOW UP D.C because of Political views ..is "not a terrorist/ Domestic extremist" . tell me all I need to know about you....Later

The person does not have the same view as the extremist. You are comparing 2 DIFFERENT kind of people. Of course i do not agree with what that moron wanted to do, but people do things as they are desperated. Im not saying it has lines of extreme violence. The difference of the 2 is Al Qaeda doesnt give a flying rat about any political thing. They plan an attack, kill as many people as they can. This morons idea wasn't the sanest one, but do you think that a terrorist would film himself on Facebook planning out an attack and live streaming his plan? Because that is EXACTLY what the person in the truck was doing, so again, is that a terrorist? Or an idiot who wanted to make a point to what he thought that was ok in his head?

We are not talking about extremist at the same level of the 911 hijackers, seasoned people who go to camps to train to bring maximum carnage to western soil. If you cant see the difference then i dont know what you fit to see what is "right"
 
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-no-one-being-killed-in-afghanistan-advisers-withdrawal

Biden says 'no one's being killed' in Afghanistan, can't 'recall' advisers telling him to delay withdrawal

Report says top generals told Biden to leave troops in Afghanistan, Biden says he doesn't remember

President Biden in an interview with ABC that aired Thursday said "no one's being killed" in Afghanistan despite reports of at least seven deaths amid the chaos at Kabul's airport and of Taliban beating people on their way to the airport, as he defended his handling of the American withdrawal from the country.

Biden further told ABC's George Stephanopoulos that intelligence did not indicate the Afghan government would quickly collapse – despite reports that's exactly what the intelligence said.

And the president said his advisers did not tell him to delay the troop withdrawal, despite reports that's exactly what his advisers did.


except it wasnt exactly it was close to the worst case scenario they predicted could possible happen
but even then it blew all expectations away


“Intelligence clearly indicated multiple scenarios were possible: one of those was an outright Taliban takeover following a rapid collapse of the Afghan Security Forces and the government,” Milley told reporters at the Pentagon. "However, the timeframe of a rapid collapse, that was widely estimated and ranged from weeks, months, and even years following our departure. There was nothing that I or anybody else saw that indicated a collapse of this army and this government in 11 days.
 

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Fox news is scummy, as with almost all mainstream news organizations, but, for the time being at least, they're still miles better than CNN and MSNBC.
You should probably give this page a good read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_controversies

Fox News has been shown, among other things, to engage in photo and video manipulation in ways that can only be described as propagandistic. They've also been incredibly unscientific when it comes to their coverage of COVID-19. As far as I'm aware, CNN and MSNBC generally don't do these things.
 
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You should probably give this page a good read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_controversies

Fox News has been shown, among other things, to engage in photo and video manipulation in ways that can only be described as propagandistic. They've also been incredibly unscientific when it comes to their coverage of COVID-19. As far as I'm aware, CNN and MSNBC generally don't do these things.
While I can believe Fox most likely does these things, to say CNN and MSNBC and possible other mainstream news outlets don't the the same thing as well is just being blindingly ignorant of what's going on in the world right now.
 

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There are cases where mayor News outlets do those kind of things, CNN has done lots of things that aren't better than the other. I'd rather watch Fox news than watching CNN. What surprises me is how the few last days CNN has changed their tune agains the whole Biden botched withdrawal. At first it was mostly coverage about spreading messages like the extremist were "Peaceful, its weird" And now they are covering parts were it says that Biden DID botch it, surprises me actually, didn't expect to see that on CNN since they were very hard Anti Trump when he was prez.

Here is a link of some mishaps from CNN:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN_controversies

Not every news outlets is perfect you know, just saying.
 
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There are cases where mayor News outlets do those kind of things, CNN has done lots of things that aren't better than the other. I'd rather watch Fox news than watching CNN. What surprises me is how the few last days CNN has changed their tune agains the whole Biden botched withdrawal. At first it was mostly coverage about spreading messages like the extremist were "Peaceful, its weird" And now they are covering parts were it says that Biden DID botch it, surprises me actually, didn't expect to see that on CNN since they were very hard Anti Trump when he was prez.

Here is a link of some mishaps from CNN:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN_controversies

Not every news outlets is perfect you know, just saying.
I never said that anybody was perfect. What I said is that Fox News is apparently guilty of things that other news network like CNN and MSNBC aren't guilty of. Regarding CNN in particular, the Wikipedia page you linked to doesn't include anything like what I mentioned with Fox News.

I don't watch CNN (or any news channel really, since I'm not 60 years old), but they don't appear to be anywhere close to as controversial as Fox News.
 
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Not every news outlets is perfect you know, just saying.
All of the cable TV news outlets can be pretty sensationalist at times, they have to try to retain viewers somehow. That said, Fox has actually had to argue in court multiple times that 'no reasonable person' would take them seriously, and that their content is for 'entertainment purposes only.'
 

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All of the cable TV news outlets can be pretty sensationalist at times, they have to try to retain viewers somehow. That said, Fox has actually had to argue in court multiple times that 'no reasonable person' would take them seriously, and that their content is for 'entertainment purposes only.'

"For entertainment purposes" Sure seeying how the extremist are firing their gun in the air, showing babies handed over to US troops, and former Pentagon employee talking about the situation is "Entertainment"
 

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"For entertainment purposes" Sure seeying how the extremist are firing their gun in the air, showing babies handed over to US troops, and former Pentagon employee talking about the situation is "Entertainment"
You'd have to take that up with Fox News, I don't consider their boomer rage porn to be "entertainment" either, but that's how they choose to legally define themselves.
 
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I never said that anybody was perfect. What I said is that Fox News is apparently guilty of things that other news network like CNN and MSNBC aren't guilty of. Regarding CNN in particular, the Wikipedia page you linked to doesn't include anything like what I mentioned with Fox News.

I don't watch CNN (or any news channel really, since I'm not 60 years old), but they don't appear to be anywhere close to as controversial as Fox News.

"Nowhere close as Fox" Yeah that is why they spend 4 years going after Trump (CNN) ooh puleaase. Im not saying that both dont do controversial things, but you lot people put in here what you want to put.

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/natio...dmitting-network-pushed-anti-trump-propaganda

And, well most mayor news are posted on every news site and that is what i take for granted, what us going on in the world, not cherry picking which network is better and credible. There are 4 News outlets that i watch for confirmation of any big news : CNN website, DailyMail, Fox News and Dutch national news channel. So you are telling me that all the same news that they cover is fake news? Sure ok mate.
 
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I never said that anybody was perfect. What I said is that Fox News is apparently guilty of things that other news network like CNN and MSNBC aren't guilty of. Regarding CNN in particular, the Wikipedia page you linked to doesn't include anything like what I mentioned with Fox News.

I don't watch CNN (or any news channel really, since I'm not 60 years old), but they don't appear to be anywhere close to as controversial as Fox News.
you do not read in my opinion we can see the corruption of cnn by reading the passages of cover of the american presidential election of 2016 and 2020
 
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