US Senate panel passes bill against piracy websites

[Guild McCommunist]

You can't achieve goals unless the government says its ok to obtain them. You can't embrace your dreams because half the things you need to do to reach them would be considered illegal.

That is by far one of the stupidest quotes I've seen.

As far as I'm concerned my dreams don't revolve around murdering people or stealing things. My dreams revolve around getting a good job, raising a happy family, etc etc. You know what helps me do that? The government. They help me with my education. They help me with my job. They help me with a lot of things. If we lived in a society based on anarchy I don't think I could achieve any dreams. I don't think I'd be able to be an astronaut when my neighbor shot me in the face because there was no government to stop him from shooting me in the face. Sure, the government caps off some things but I'd rather have a few limits that make me slightly upset than living in a lawless society.

 

[iYoshi-]

Well damn son.
Perhaps they have already assassinated the US dumping team

 

[DJPlace]

what a shocker... also i can't like import games out of state cause of this?

 

[ThatDudeWithTheFood]

Censorship of the internet will make me move.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

what a shocker... also i can't like import games out of state cause of this?

What are you talking about? The bill is meant to stop sites that sell BOOTLEGS and other PIRATED GOODS. Unless the imports you buy are bootlegs this bill won't be affecting you. The bill will, if anything, stop you from buying counterfeit items, which I thought was mostly a good thing in my book.

For Christ's sake, people read "US Senate" and "piracy" in the same line and immediately start going "OH MY GOD MY CIVIL LIBERTIES ARE BEING IMPLODED I'M MOVING OUT OF THIS COUNTRY!" Read the fucking thing before you start whining.

 

[DJPlace]

what a shocker... also i can't like import games out of state cause of this?

What are you talking about? The bill is meant to stop sites that sell BOOTLEGS and other PIRATED GOODS. Unless the imports you buy are bootlegs this bill won't be affecting you. The bill will, if anything, stop you from buying counterfeit items, which I thought was mostly a good thing in my book.

For Christ's sake, people read "US Senate" and "piracy" in the same line and immediately start going "OH MY GOD MY CIVIL LIBERTIES ARE BEING IMPLODED I'M MOVING OUT OF THIS COUNTRY!" Read the fucking thing before you start whining.

i did read it i just could not understand what it meant... and i don't buy bootlegs so yeah i do all my stuff on my own.

 

[ProtoKun7]

I thought it was straightforward myself. The bold area is a good place to start; those are primarily what are being looked into. Primarily, but not necessarily exclusively.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

Maybe this is the action that needs to be taken to show Game/Music/Movie companies that a pirated copy doesn't always mean a lost sale. In fact I know plenty of people that download movies and music that go out and buy a copy if they enjoyed it.

This may actually hurt the industry if push comes to shove.

 

[RE4zombie]

The idea of copyright did not exist in ancient times, when authors frequently copied other authors at length in works of non-fiction. This practice was useful, and is the only way many authors' works have survived even in part.

--Richard Stallman

Now if only the greedy corporations could see this aspect of copyright.

 

[chyyran]

hmmmm he US is gonna turn into what it once feared: a communist , capitalist , corrupt and downright undemocratic country
Fixed.
I refuse to believe this. The internet is international domain. How come every single country in the world didn't have a say in this? This is undemocratic, corrupt, capatalist and a bunch of other words I can't say without China hunting me down.


QUOTE(Zetta_x @ Nov 18 2010, 04:24 PM) It's illegal because the government says it's illegal. One reason why the government says it is illegal because it works against them if we think otherwise. So if you are saying we should listen to everything the government is saying that is illegal, you should just shoot yourself in your foot because you can't even walk without the governments permission.

You can't achieve goals unless the government says its ok to obtain them. You can't embrace your dreams because half the things you need to do to reach them would be considered illegal.

I for one, follow what the government says, but if I can benefit by breaking the law (running a damn stop sign or something when no one is there) then I'm going to do it because I can. If I get a ticket, then obviously someone was there and I'm at fault for it.

Who says the government won't block this site? Will you then go against them? What if they block the internet?

Also, who cares what it is called. Communism, stateism, blahblahism, the government did not create the internet so F*** their censorship.

That's the problem. This is the U.S. government. They have no true jurisdiction under other countries such as Canada, unless a vote is passed in Canadian Parliament. But when they do that, they essentially give the country to the US. This bill is almost illegal, it's like the US giving itself the permission to control other countries. When did they get that type of power?

 

[Deleted User]

hmmmm he US is gonna turn into what it once feared: a communist , capitalist , corrupt and downright undemocratic country

Fixed.
I refuse to believe this. The internet is international domain. How come every single country in the world didn't have a say in this? This is undemocratic, corrupt, capatalist and a bunch of other words I can't say without China hunting me down.

booooo US sucks, even tho i live in it, booooo!!!!!

 

[Midna]

hmmmm he US is gonna turn into what it once feared: a communist , capitalist , corrupt and downright undemocratic country
Fixed.
I refuse to believe this. The internet is international domain. How come every single country in the world didn't have a say in this? This is undemocratic, corrupt, capatalist and a bunch of other words I can't say without China hunting me down.


QUOTE(Zetta_x @ Nov 18 2010, 04:24 PM) It's illegal because the government says it's illegal. One reason why the government says it is illegal because it works against them if we think otherwise. So if you are saying we should listen to everything the government is saying that is illegal, you should just shoot yourself in your foot because you can't even walk without the governments permission.

You can't achieve goals unless the government says its ok to obtain them. You can't embrace your dreams because half the things you need to do to reach them would be considered illegal.

I for one, follow what the government says, but if I can benefit by breaking the law (running a damn stop sign or something when no one is there) then I'm going to do it because I can. If I get a ticket, then obviously someone was there and I'm at fault for it.

Who says the government won't block this site? Will you then go against them? What if they block the internet?

Also, who cares what it is called. Communism, stateism, blahblahism, the government did not create the internet so F*** their censorship.

That's the problem. This is the U.S. government. They have no true jurisdiction under other countries such as Canada, unless a vote is passed in Canadian Parliament. But when they do that, they essentially give the country to the US. This bill is almost illegal, it's like the US giving itself the permission to control other countries. When did they get that type of power?

In effect, this ill impact the world, you're right. But not really. This isn't taking foreign websites down if they deem then unfit. It's just removing all US support from them. That could ruin some sites. But not necessarily.

 

[Stevetry]

i hate this were i am suppose to get my Brazilian fart porn from and japs girls doing stuff ?

 

[DJ91990]

I stopped reading at:

WASHINGTON, Nov 18 (Reuters) - U.S. agencies and officials would get new powers to go after foreign websites that sell counterfeit goods and pirated music, movies and books

Doesn't effect backups, just people that take peoples' ROM hacks and burn them to a blank cartridge and sell them.

 

[Advi]

I stopped reading at:

WASHINGTON, Nov 18 (Reuters) - U.S. agencies and officials would get new powers to go after foreign websites that sell counterfeit goods and pirated music, movies and books

Doesn't effect backups, just people that take peoples' ROM hacks and burn them to a blank cartridge and sell them.

Hahaha this is why I'm laughing all the way to the bank, this will barely do anything to stop piracy.

 

[Inunah]

The fuck? This is the exact reason Atlantis sank.

 

[VashTS]

they usually tack on other bullshit when things like this pass. like when online poker became "illegal".

 

[Inunah]

like when online poker became "illegal".

Or when they ruled it was illegal to kill Justin Beiber or Robert Pattinson.

 

[FlameTakuya]

If they tell paypal to stop connecting with all the sites that they're against, wouldn't that be the end of shoptemp, dealextreme, etc.?

I mean, they can't ship to us if we can't pay them. :/

 

[George Dawes]

hmmmm he US is gonna turn into what it once feared a communist country
This is nothing to with with communism - in fact it is the complete opposite. This is the inevitable conclusion under a capitalistic system.


QUOTE(Guild McCommunist @ Nov 19 2010, 12:54 AM) What are you talking about? The bill is meant to stop sites that sell BOOTLEGS and other PIRATED GOODS.

Read it again - it also mentions "counterfeit" pharmaceuticals. Generic versions of branded drugs that for many are life-savers. They can't afford (or the branded version simply isn't marketed where they live) the branded version and use generic.