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FYI trashing on quite a big group of people for solely existing is not really an opinion. Let people be and stop calling me or any other LGBT person a part of some twisted movement

There's a difference between individuals and political movements.
I believe the confusion is in the use of labels.
Just like not all black people are part of the BLM political movement, not all LGBT people agree with the politics of LGBT.
Gay people are not a monolith; they are individuals with their own perspectives.
This is true of every individual. You shouldn't pigeon hole them.

When Joe Biden said "if you don't vote for me, you ain't black" he demonstrated this mindset perfectly.
Black people are not one group; they are a collection of free thinking individuals.

i feel all trump supporters should banished to the shadow realm....er Mars, the Doom verson

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There's a difference between individuals and political movements.
I believe the confusion is in the use of labels.
Just like not all black people are part of the BLM political movement, not all LGBT people agree with the politics of LGBT.
Gay people are not a monolith; they are individuals with their own perspectives.
This is true of every individual. You shouldn't pigeon hole them.

When Joe Biden said "if you don't vote for me, you ain't black" he demonstrated this mindset perfectly.
Black people are not one group; they are a collection of free thinking individuals.
No way LGBT people don't share the same political stances???? /s

See, the problem is you calling LGBT a political movement. Thanks for proving you're a worthless conversation partner.

If you're not LGBT then please stay the fuck away from the internal affairs of the community.
Thus being said, I also have a lot of criticism towards the community, but to call it a political statement or movement is simply an insult. My existence is not up to fucking debate, especially of political nature. I AM NOT A POLITICAL STATEMENT FOR YOU TO DEBATE ON.
 

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No way LGBT people don't share the same political stances???? /s

See, the problem is you calling LGBT a political movement. Thanks for proving you're a worthless conversation partner.

If you're not LGBT then please stay the fuck away from the internal affairs of the community.
Thus being said, I also have a lot of criticism towards the community, but to call it a political statement or movement is simply an insult. My existence is not up to fucking debate, especially of political nature. I AM NOT A POLITICAL STATEMENT FOR YOU TO DEBATE ON.

You don't seem to understand that we completely agree :grog:
LGBT individuals are not a political movement.
However, the label LGBT is used by politicians because its a group label.
LGBT may be used to push any particular legislation, whether you as an individual LGBT agrees with it.
I think this is wrong. Our sexualities have no place in politics!
This happens with race, too. It's really unfortunate...:hateit:

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I did a full playthrough of BotW (with "infinite" durability, infinite stamina, an online map, and using a save editor to place markers over 100 Korok Seeds at a time, along with maxing out all my raw resources - thereby removing the most egregious design mistakes/idiocy to the best of my ability), and...yeah, ugh.
Yeah... you just made the game worse by doing that. I get the complaints that weapon breakage is "annoying" but that is not my problem with the game at all, and if you make it infinite, you just remove the only thing making the game simulate the feeling of having to move from place to place because you need to. That's the reason behind making breakable equipment, the entire world is designed for it, so that the player is incentivized to break off the path they think they want to take when they suddenly get too underpowered and have to divert, thus discovering something they otherwise wouldn't. For all that the game does wrong in my book that design choice is not it. It's not the best execution but it serves a purpose.

What to me did NOT serve its purpose were the Shrines and how old they get really fast. It gets worse when you realize there are 20 exclusively dedicated to copy-pasted "Combat Trials" all of which are uninspired and suck but let's be honest, almost every Zelda game barring A Link to the Past or just the 2D games in general, have had moments outside of their brilliance where they faltered. What bothered me is that you're incentivized to explore this world so that you can encounter these puzzle-shrines, and they treat the dungeons themselves as a reward. In Skyward Sword, in Ocarina of Time, in Twilight Princess, in ALttP and so on, the dungeons were not a reward in and of themselves. Neither were the exploration but I don't mind it if exploration is itself the attraction. What bothered me is that the reason why the environment is "attractive" in the end is so you can bump into these prefab-ridden Shrines, all starting the same way, ending the same way, having a "level-editor" map inside them ranging from good to very dubious in design, and they all "reward" you with a generic stackable item and a common item in the form of a weapon. In odd Shrines you suddenly get a rare piece of armor, and this can also just be purchased, but at least that's something unique and NEW to everything else you've seen. But it's just armor. It's not a Hookshot, it's not a Candle that can put things on fire at will, and it's not an Ocarina that can play songs and unlock secrets in areas you previously visited. No, nothing that you discover in BotW awards you with something relevatory. There is nothing revelatory or progressive anywhere in Breath of the Wild. There's story beats but they're not very good, and there's NPCs and they somewhat remedy the game's blandness, and the world has great atmosphere... but that's just ambiance. The real MEAT of BotW is the Divine Beasts and the Shrines, and they're just not that rewarding to complete because they're not that memorable to go through, and that leaves you just with an open-world environment where the primary fun is the traversal itself, and if you ask me the game is not actually that entertaining in that regard.

I totally get the claims that it's "revolutionary design" or "a new plateau for how video games should be made" yea, the climbing everything is a true novelty that breaks the conventions of all open world games... but this doesn't mean BotW as a self-fulfilling experience is good just because it's novel. Cuz to me it just ain't. I did not feel very excited at any point through this game. The most was the Divine Beasts, and some odd self-imposed challenges, but ultimately I was faced with a feeling that there is no reward anywhere in the game, and you have to be "okay with your own imaginary award" for completing something that challenged yourself. People IMHO vastly overestimate how much quality comes from that lone trait and most importantly to me, it just isn't why I used to play Zelda. I played the previous games starting with ALttP especially to get that true, fulfilling, experience of being on a heroic adventure in a video-game format, where the ending is the big culmination of a series of well-executed setpieces of exploration, level design and combat (typically from bosses), and the sense that it was a perfectly composed video game. A game where every piece was designed in tandem with the others to give me a real experience, as if I'm the hero of that Lord of the Rings style movie story, and that entails going into dangerous places with environmental traps, evil creatures, a giant demonic boss lurking, and ultimately a really evil entity in the world that has to be defeated so my characters' loved ones and the world's people can be safe.

And to me, Breath of the WIld is the first Zelda game ever, which did not create that feeling. Instead it felt like Nintendo got excited by Minecraft and Far Cry, and said "Yeah, uh, THAT." A complete nothing-experience to me, where everything it boils down to was "did you enjoy sandboxing around?" and I've played enough Crysis Level Editor in 2008 to know that I don't get off on random physics simulations anymore. I don't care how the graphics look or how immersive the dynamics are, unless you put a finely crafted experience in front of me. And all BotW was, was "a giant land realized in 3D... with nothing special to do in it." Of any acclaimed "masterpiece" in games, it's the only game I came out of saying "Why do they praise this so much?"

EDIT: So I was about to test a mod for ME1 when I realized I had been unbanned from GBATemp today, and I ended up writing this to the Vigil Theme, which is why I got so pretentious and high flung with it.
 
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Yeah... you just made the game worse by doing that. I get the complaints that weapon breakage is "annoying" but that is not my problem with the game at all, and if you make it infinite, you just remove the only thing making the game simulate the feeling of having to move from place to place because you need to. That's the reason behind making breakable equipment, the entire world is designed for it, so that the player is incentivized to break off the path they think they want to take when they suddenly get too underpowered and have to divert, thus discovering something they otherwise wouldn't. For all that the game does wrong in my book that design choice is not it. It's not the best execution but it serves a purpose.

What to me did NOT serve its purpose were the Shrines and how old they get really fast. It gets worse when you realize there are 20 exclusively dedicated to copy-pasted "Combat Trials" all of which are uninspired and suck but let's be honest, almost every Zelda game barring A Link to the Past or just the 2D games in general, have had moments outside of their brilliance where they faltered. What bothered me is that you're incentivized to explore this world so that you can encounter these puzzle-shrines, and they treat the dungeons themselves as a reward. In Skyward Sword, in Ocarina of Time, in Twilight Princess, in ALttP and so on, the dungeons were not a reward in and of themselves. Neither were the exploration but I don't mind it if exploration is itself the attraction. What bothered me is that the reason why the environment is "attractive" in the end is so you can bump into these prefab-ridden Shrines, all starting the same way, ending the same way, having a "level-editor" map inside them ranging from good to very dubious in design, and they all "reward" you with a generic stackable item and a common item in the form of a weapon. In odd Shrines you suddenly get a rare piece of armor, and this can also just be purchased, but at least that's something unique and NEW to everything else you've seen. But it's just armor. It's not a Hookshot, it's not a Candle that can put things on fire at will, and it's not an Ocarina that can play songs and unlock secrets in areas you previously visited. No, nothing that you discover in BotW awards you with something relevatory. There is nothing revelatory or progressive anywhere in Breath of the Wild. There's story beats but they're not very good, and there's NPCs and they somewhat remedy the game's blandness, and the world has great atmosphere... but that's just ambiance. The real MEAT of BotW is the Divine Beasts and the Shrines, and they're just not that rewarding to complete because they're not that memorable to go through, and that leaves you just with an open-world environment where the primary fun is the traversal itself, and if you ask me the game is not actually that entertaining in that regard.

I totally get the claims that it's "revolutionary design" or "a new plateau for how video games should be made" yea, the climbing everything is a true novelty that breaks the conventions of all open world games... but this doesn't mean BotW as a self-fulfilling experience is good just because it's novel. Cuz to me it just ain't. I did not feel very excited at any point through this game. The most was the Divine Beasts, and some odd self-imposed challenges, but ultimately I was faced with a feeling that there is no reward anywhere in the game, and you have to be "okay with your own imaginary award" for completing something that challenged yourself. People IMHO vastly overestimate how much quality comes from that lone trait and most importantly to me, it just isn't why I used to play Zelda. I played the previous games starting with ALttP especially to get that true, fulfilling, experience of being on a heroic adventure in a video-game format, where the ending is the big culmination of a series of well-executed setpieces of exploration, level design and combat (typically from bosses), and the sense that it was a perfectly composed video game. A game where every piece was designed in tandem with the others to give me a real experience, as if I'm the hero of that Lord of the Rings style movie story, and that entails going into dangerous places with environmental traps, evil creatures, a giant demonic boss lurking, and ultimately a really evil entity in the world that has to be defeated so my characters' loved ones and the world's people can be safe.

And to me, Breath of the WIld is the first Zelda game ever, which did not create that feeling. Instead it felt like Nintendo got excited by Minecraft and Far Cry, and said "Yeah, uh, THAT." A complete nothing-experience to me, where everything it boils down to was "did you enjoy sandboxing around?" and I've played enough Crysis Level Editor in 2008 to know that I don't get off on random physics simulations anymore. I don't care how the graphics look or how immersive the dynamics are, unless you put a finely crafted experience in front of me. And all BotW was, was "a giant land realized in 3D... with nothing special to do in it." Of any acclaimed "masterpiece" in games, it's the only game I came out of saying "Why do they praise this so much?"

EDIT: So I was about to test a mod for ME1 when I realized I had been unbanned from GBATemp today, and I ended up writing this to the Vigil Theme, which is why I got so pretentious and high flung with it.
About weapon (and shield) fragility...the existence of Assassin's Creed Origins (and Odyssey too, I guess, but Origins is just a better game overall I feel) completely debunks any reason for fragility.
In Origins, there's a bunch of different weapon types, far more than sword/greatsword/axe/spear/bow, and the player is incentivised to keep switching between them and to use newly-earned weapons because they have higher attack ratings or are better for combatting a certain enemy, or because they have awesome skills attached - the player is never forced to change because their stuff breaks.
If the player likes a certain piece of equipment, they can pay a smithy to increase its rating.

I like AC: Origins' implementation far better because it does not frustrate the player.
 

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About weapon (and shield) fragility...the existence of Assassin's Creed Origins (and Odyssey too, I guess, but Origins is just a better game overall I feel) completely debunks any reason for fragility.
In Origins, there's a bunch of different weapon types, far more than sword/greatsword/axe/spear/bow, and the player is incentivised to keep switching between them and to use newly-earned weapons because they have higher attack ratings or are better for combatting a certain enemy, or because they have awesome skills attached - the player is never forced to change because their stuff breaks.
If the player likes a certain piece of equipment, they can pay a smithy to increase its rating.

I like AC: Origins' implementation far better because it does not frustrate the player.
The point was that the breaking equipment means you're forced to not always stay on the path you were headed. Losing the things that make you competent against enemies means you're more likely to veer off-path and go left instead of forward, then see something new that you otherwise wouldn't have, because you were looking for new weapons to sustain your survival as you head to the place you need to go to.

And I think that's a good idea. It wasn't trying to be what other typical character action combats are where it's about skills and upgrades, they wanted weapons to be disposable and that's okay. The issue is that they made the world itself the only reward for exploring, as in, yeah cool, grass is green, there's a desert, a volcano. I can climb, yay. But nowhere you go you actually see something truly unique that's different from what you saw on the Great Plateau, not really. The game exhausts itself of creative surprises by building everything into recreational systems and then loading the world up with prefabs and just nothing but prefabs and hand-crafted geometry. There's no wall you bomb and suddenly "wow there's a full Skyward Sword tier main dungeon here!", there's no one-off boss somewhere in the world. No ancient dragon in the pit of a volcano not seen anywhere in the game, that guards an item as unique as the Hookshot. They IMHO failed to take what Zelda used to be and recreate it as a free open world game. They abandoned almost everything that defined Zelda, which is the progressive gameplay experience which tells an epic heroic story of growth, and excused it into "Well... you grow by becoming better at using the mechanics to your liking!" and, "Well... you grow by upping your hearts and stacking up on items and gear!" and... No! I don't. I get bored by it. It's nothing new to gaming. Great, you have a sandbox. Recreational gameplay. But if I want that I play multiplayer games. I'm fed up with singleplayer titles where the goal is to exhaust the content of a giant map with "stuff" in it, and it isn't what Zelda was in the past.

Zelda invited you in with like "wow, epic exploration and adventure" but then the surprise was the dungeons and bosses, and how creative they were, and then by completing the content you were awarded with a story that had a beginning, middle and end, and whether you thought it was deep or not is subservient to the fact that it had all the right moodswings a story needs. A premise to show the peaceful world fall apart, a middle to show that progress isn't made without risk and setbacks, and a climax to show you pwning whoever orchestrated all the sadness in the world, and come out showing Link redefined as a hero of legend.

In BotW, everything just felt fucking static, man. It just wasn't memorable. The exploration itself definitely had moments where I was just enjoying myself and I remember that... but unlike the majority of its fans and gullible critics, I don't think of that experience as genre-defining or masterpiece-tier. To me it was just average, and I desperately wanted the game to have some kind of secret or something more that was going to fool me, something I wouldn't see coming, and it just didn't. 10 hours in, you've seen the great plateau, you've seen enough Shrines to get bored of them, you've seen the dragon gods fly by more than twice to realize it's nothing special, and you've slain 2-3 "minibosses" at random, entered a Divine Beast, maybe been to Hyrule Castle etc. and at that point, you can tell that the game has nothing feature-wise beyond what has already been revealed, and the real disappointment is that it really didn't. There was nothing interesting within the game's longevity. It's twice as long to beat with all the "main" content as previous titles even Skyward Sword which clocked at 50 hours for me, and while I agree that TP/SS made the format too walkthrough-driven, I ultimately liked them more than this because they kept subverting your expectations even when you thought the formula had become predictable. It is all about execution.

I get why people like BotW for the freedom and "open air" approach... but again, to me that factor alone doesn't make it a masterpiece. In execution, in its longevity, it's a painfully average game which has potential but as far as BotW1 goes, it really was just average and far below the quality of the last 4-5 mainline titles. It was not the same kind of christmas-esque event to play through it for me, as the other games were.
 

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I think the Popeye's Chicken Sandwich is over hyped, over marketed and disappointing compared to other chicken sandwiches that exist on the market.

Apparently that's an unpopular opinion.

I believe the confusion is in the use of labels..

I believe this as well, the world today is too reliant on labels and feeling the need to advertise them, not to proudly wear them on your sleeve but to just make you a simple equation that can be grouped together on some math problem or algorithm for the need of graphs or marketing. Outside of these they do not benefit the individual and often at times can be abused more than not.

I just miss the days when people just did not care about labels or the need of them. I would rather have that and just have people just be happy with themselves and their own personal discoveries than to worry about labels, groupings and lets be honest here, mathematical segregation of folks using ideology as a means to better sell things to you. That's all its about anymore really.
 
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The Xbox controller d-pad is too clicking and utter crap when it comes to retro games/emulation. The 8bit SN30 Pro+ has an infinitely superior layout for PC games as well.
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