Universe age!

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  1. TEINDTPA
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    Hello fellow Gbatemp peoples!!I am here today to start a discussion about the universe ages why that? Simpler Because Universe is not 13.8 billion years old and because i really love science!

    Let’s me explain my theory why! . What you see is called the Observable Universe , the OU is 13.8 billion years across, HDF Hubble telescope can zap to 13.8 billion years images of the universe but what they see is the same as the near galaxy around us , but in theirs young ages . You see everywhere galaxy are born instantly or travelling at opposite direction but it take billion see trillion years to be seen because of the infinite universe.

    When the JWST , James Webb Space Telescope will be operational in 2018 . The NASA will try out to see above this limit of the old HDF Hubble images, NASA will see that it is appearing to be infinite* , if they see The Universe becoming more red-shifted and Galaxy appearing to be smaller and younger would mean they can’t see more than 13.8 billion light years across.(*What they really would think is that it would mean it is the big bang start)

    For me it would mean that we are stuck in a slowly stationary Vision of the Universe , so we need to wait a lot so we can see more because it take light many years to reach us as 13.8 billion years for the one we see . That not all! you see we move through space at high speed and that not all our Galaxy move fast too !

    So let’s be simplistic and realist , just in one image of the HDF of Hubble you can clearly see a lot of galaxy many are behind those and many are born as each second we speak we cannot see all and 13.8 billion years is what far we can see as today .

    I really hope JWST see even more galaxy and nothing else it would mean the Universe is infinite! The age of universe cannot be calculated it is too vast and believe me or not Human are not gonna find it sooner , let’s be clear if the Human find it it would mean we are close to the creator! But what we are for real? Finding that could lead to the age of universe as for now lets just get high everyday and watch those Full HD image of the beautiful Universe we got!

    What do you think the universe age is or what you think about it at all? :) Have a good day too!



    Sorry if my English is weak hope you all understand Peace!!

    p.s I have made a entry blog too!
     
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  2. Lacius

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    We can see things farther than 13.8 billion light-years away because of the expansion of space. In other words, we can see things that are 46 billion light-years away because they used to be much closer.

    In addition, because of the expansion of the universe, waiting only decreases what we can see; it doesn't increase it. The expansion of space pushes once visible objects out of our field of view.

    As for the original question, the universe is 13.799±0.021 billion years old.
     
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    But if the world is only 4000 years old, how could it be 13.8 billion?
     
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    The Earth is 4.54±0.05 billion years old.
     
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    This line. This line right here. This is just begging for a religious debate.

    And we all know how that would end....
     
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    That is not true you know? Because what we see is 13.8 billion years old yes you can see some shit 46 million years across but let's see why , because the limit of what we can see is what the light take to reach us it take centuries or even 50 billion years to reach us , i used the term 13.8 billion years because that the age calculated be scientific but cannot be confirmed ,universe is flat and infinite meaning it is infinite aged.

    The more far you can see mean it is more likely older than 13.8 billion years but you right !
     
  7. Logan Pockrus

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    The universe certainly isn't flat. It expands in all directions.
     
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    The observable universe is 46.5 billion light-years in any direction, not 13.8 billion light-years, because the expansion of the universe has caused things that were much closer to become farther away.
     
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    IT will appear to be expending floating everywhere but certainly because universe is vast infinite, il give an example ... if you take a microscope and zoom in you will see some microbe appearing to be more round that flat but they are flat because they are so small so they appear flat the same go for the universe!
     
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    Appearing flat and being flat aren't the same thing.
     
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    If they appear flat because they're so small, how can you say the universe is anything like that? I thought we established that the universe was, if anything, very large? Anyway, are you saying that if I were to fly into space in a rocket and just keep going, I would run into the edge of space?
     
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    Yes it is because it would mean they are no limit for such size the more big you are the more space go around yo Einstein even talked about the possibility and if you google you can confirm that it is possibly more flat than 3d.

    edit: see we are so in the early age of knowing if it is true you see il give an example
    Take a video game you see it in sort of 3d but in a way it is flat it is image place in some way that they appear 3d space is same because we can see gravity is more strong that the flatness!
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    no because it more likely that you go thru layer you see universe is flat but made of strange space web Hubble did manage to capture some picture google it , if it is true you would simply be impossible to go further as the dark energy is to strong and keep you inside those space web but hey they are all connected in some way so you could just not go on emptiness !
     
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    Einstein believed the universe was static and unchanging before a Catholic priest convinced him of the big bang (irony at its finest). He then became an advocate for the big bang (and the big bang theory suggests the universe expands in all directions). He then went on to say that believing in the first theory was the "greatest mistake of his life" (or something along those lines). Article for further reading: https://www.bbvaopenmind.com/en/priest-invented-big-bang/
     
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    The layer of the spacetime appear too much flat why would it be round on a invisible floor see the blue floor is the flatness of the universe why would we be simple ball? and how other star around us are not crashing into us ? Space web and flatness fix all!
     
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    ITT heretics
    4000 years old /thread
     
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    If it is 4000 yeas old then all our life and what read on internet are lies made to make us believe we existed before that so the government can continue experiment and make money with us like XD
     
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    The reason we don't collide with planets in our solar system is because we are on a different route around the sun than them, basically (it's a bit more convoluted than that). The reason we don't collide with stars is because the distance between us and them is unimaginably large, and they're just aimlessly floaing around (I.E., they're not coming straight at us). The probability of us crashing into another planet or star is slim to none; and even if it were somewhat probable, it would still take a very long time to occur.
     
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    Yes that why Space web fix all that because it connect energy to stay together and not float everywhere but if universe is infinite i don't see why a big bang would exist in first place.
     
  19. Logan Pockrus

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    That's not what I was trying to say. And I don't think the universe is infinite, as evidence suggests it's expanding (which was one of the reasons the Big Bang theory gained traction).
     
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    What is that Space Web you're reffering to?