UK broadband is among the slowest in Europe

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The internet is a bigger part of the British economy than education, healthcare or construction. Britons generate more money online than any other G20 nation. But when it comes to high-speed broadband, the country is falling behind.
The UK's average download speed is ranked 16th in Europe, according to IT company Akamai, and experts warn that the country is beginning to miss out as a result. "Britain is being frozen out of the next industrial revolution," Peter Cochrane, a former BT chief technology officer, has warned. "In terms of broadband, the UK is at the back of the pack. We're beaten by almost every other European country and Asia leaves us for dust." While other countries are racing to replace the old copper telephone networks with fibre optic cables running right to household doorsteps, and capable of almost unlimited speeds, the UK has settled for a compromise.

BT Group, with a network that reaches nearly every home in the country, is laying fibre to cabinets in the streets, and relying on copper to carry the broadband signal the last leg to the doorstep. Today, that means speeds limited to 80 megabits per second (Mbps), compared with 1,000Mbps or more available in all-fibre networks. Russia already has 12m homes with fibre to the doorstep. France has 6m and says 70% of premises will be connected by 2020. The UK has just 400,000, and there are no targets to increase that number.

Ministers rank broadband as one of Britain's top four infrastructure priorities, alongside roads, rail and energy, and George Osborne has committed £200bn to these sectors over the next five years. But a fraction of that will go to broadband – just £1.3bn from local and central government has been earmarked. The government has made a rather vague promise that we will have the best superfast broadband network in Europe by 2015. And by 2017, 90% of homes will have access to superfast speeds, with the final 10%, the most remote dwellings, getting a basic 2Mbps service. BT says it will pay for two-thirds of the work itself, but the government and local councils are finding most of the money needed to reach the final third of the population through a process being organised by the BDUK quango.

Superfast is defined by the government as 24Mbps and over. BT says two-thirds of homes will have access to its Infinity product of up to 80Mpbs if they want it by the end of 2014, with rival Virgin Media offering even higher speeds via its cable network to 12m of the UK's 26m homes.
"In terms of superfast broadband the UK will be among a leading group by 2015, but the trade-off is there will be very little ultrafast fibre to the home," says Rupert Wood at research house Analysys Mason. All-fibre networks take time to build and Wood believes if the UK wants one it must start planning now.
"Eighty Mbps is more than people need," says BT's strategy head, Sean Williams. "We are not of the school that universal fibre to the premises is the solution."
BT believes it will finish its rollout on time, if not ahead of schedule. Gangs of engineers and cable-layers have been hired, with ex-servicemen drafted in to dig for broadband Britain. "We are going as fast as we possibly can and as widely as we possibly can," says Williams.
No matter how quickly BT digs, though, fibre evangelists say that by 2017, the national targets will be out of date. We will have moved from needing superfast to wishing for ultrafast broadband. Television and Skype video calling will demand more than BT's hybrid network can cope with.
"These targets are fulfilling the demands of the past," says Boris Ivanovic, the entrepreneur whose Hyperoptic group is selling fibre connections to upmarket UK apartment blocks. "Fibre to the cabinet is a stop-gap solution, and will not put the UK in a leadership position."
He says the £17bn committed by the government to a high-speed rail line from London to Birmingham could cover most of the costs of a future-proof all-fibre network. "If we had those links we wouldn't need to travel as often to Birmingham and we wouldn't be polluting the environment as much."

"If the country is happy to travel at the speed determined by the driver that is fine, if we want to force the driver to accelerate then we have to change the model," says Francesco Caio, a former Cable & Wireless chief executive and a government adviser to the last government on broadband infrastructure.
He says the ultimate aim should be "infinite bandwidth between any two points in the country" and that no single company is capable of achieving that. Instead, the government should recreate the kind of national company through which the state built the copper network before BT was privatised. This could be owned by the existing telecoms companies and need not involve piles of taxpayers' cash.


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Gah, stupid government. Maybe if they hadn't privatised everything (in this case, BT) we wouldn't get in these messes.
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the £17bn committed by the government to a high-speed rail line from London to Birmingham could cover most of the costs of a future-proof all-fibre network. "If we had those links we wouldn't need to travel as often to Birmingham and we wouldn't be polluting the environment as much."
This. I believe the UK having a decent internet speed is crucial and the way it is going at the moment we're simply getting left behind.
 

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It sure is slow as hell. "Speed depending on how far the telephone extension is". "Speed depending on the internet usage in that area."
"Area not cabled(meaning no cable DSL or fibre optic -.-) etc etc

excuses and shit..
 

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Meh more than happy with 24mbps, I just think its overpriced compared to other countries but hey it beats what none European countries get.

You kids are spoilt, I hope you one day get forced to use dial up again.
 
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The internet isn't just for entertainment, it's a serious tool, and having enough bandwidth to do what you need to do in a timely fashion is important for many jobs. Video conferencing, VPNs, remotely managing services, VOIP, there's a lot of business-critical things that depend on having enough broadband over some sort of MAN or WAN.
 
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I spent a lot of time on online games back in 2000, Q3A and PSO and that was on dial up, so i kinda feel spoiled now with my 50MB broadband.

Even back then the europeans had superior internet speeds, they was on a fast broadband line while the likes of me had to make do with lags.

So it's no surprise to me reading the OP.
 

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Wait, Bulgaria is 6th. YESS.
Wait, average internet is at 23.3 mbps and I'm only at 12. Fu*k.
 

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I'm paying for 60Mbps on Virgin. Do I ever hit those giddy heights? Do I fuck.
Still way faster than the shitty copper cable of the BT network though, and my upspeed is 6 times what it was so I'm not going to grumble too much.
 

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My country is in debt, but 100mbps has been available for like 4 or more years in here for somewhat decent prices (I've had this speed for like 3 years), and the max speed has been like 1gb for 2 or 3 years (I remember getting 100 and they were already talking about 1gb).


Edit: I found this pic which seems to date from April, here the UK is in 16th place in Europe and Portugal would be in 17th, sees like it had a decrease of 7% (mainly due to the current crisis I assume):

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That looks like the one - all the figures match up.
 

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lol dreams off 5mb tbh :) wow to 20 plus mb and holy moly to 100mb and beeeep *********ing beeep to 1000mb.

need something else added to chart is that country telephones company Goverment or PRivertised hmmmm bet all goverment countrys are super fast and private all slow i bet.
 

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That reminds me of when i was at The Gathering 2012. The speed for downloading was 200 Mbps. I think with around 5k people or possibly more downlading, we were able to use up to 80 Mbps which was about more than the whole country using altogether lol. The equipment for that cost like 4 million or something (Either that or 14 million. Cant remember)

EDIT: For those that doesnt know what TG is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gathering_%28computer_party%29
Very similar to Dreamhack from sweden, except that we can listen to music and and we dont have to be silent like some mad mindless sweating swedish geek.
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