UK becomes first country to approve new pfizer vaccine

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I read this news today.
Seems like Europe, USA and other "first world" nations are getting the vaccine supplied and produced in this December.

Canada, Mexico and other "minor" Europe countries will get it by January.

Followed by Asian and African countries by March, I think.
Definitely good news.

But I'm kind of overthinking if I should get the vaccine ASAP or if I should wait to see how people reacts to it.
By no means I'm denying that Pfeizer showed an astounding 95% of efficacy on immunity...
but I'm considering any possible side effects I may develop for owning a heart disease.
On top of that, I'm highly allergic to common medicine like Aspirin, Acetylsalicylic Acid, Ibuprofen, Penicillin, Naproxen, Paracetamol and Phenylalanine... so... we'll test my luck to this vaccine.
 

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I read this news today.
Seems like Europe, USA and other "first world" nations are getting the vaccine supplied and produced in this December.

Canada, Mexico and other "minor" Europe countries will get it by January.

Followed by Asian and African countries by March, I think.
Definitely good news.

But I'm kind of overthinking if I should get the vaccine ASAP or if I should wait to see how people reacts to it.
By no means I'm denying that Pfeizer showed an astounding 95% of efficacy on immunity...
but I'm considering any possible side effects I may develop for owning a heart disease.
On top of that, I'm highly allergic to common medicine like Aspirin, Acetylsalicylic Acid, Ibuprofen, Penicillin, Naproxen, Paracetamol and Phenylalanine... so... we'll test my luck to this vaccine.
If you want to wait a bit, go ahead. While there is a 95% success rate amongst 43,000 people or something, it could be possible there's ingredients inside of it that you could be allergic to. Known from my mom, who's allergic to some types of medicine or shampoos and stuff. Just wait and see the results and ingredients of the vaccine.
 
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If you want to wait a bit, go ahead. While there is a 95% success rate amongst 43,000 people or something, it could be possible there's ingredients inside of it that you could be allergic to. Known from my mom, who's allergic to some types of medicine or shampoos and stuff. Just wait and see the results and ingredients of the vaccine.
Yes, that's why this is a huge decision and responsibility for me, as not getting the vaccine puts me at risk, but taking it puts me at risk too.

So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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Seems like Europe, USA and other "first world" nations are getting the vaccine supplied and produced in this December.
In Europe it will (/should) take longer, because authorization takes longer. (Few more months.)

You are basically at the point, where an independent body has to look at the studies the manufacturer produced, and (where necessary) produce its own additional studies, to find out if it is "safe" for the vaccine to be greenlit for distribution.

US and Europe have very different models there. US basically has more of a 'you go try, and if you fail - you get sued out of existence' model. While in Europe its harder to get it cleared for public consumption, but then you face less legal risk on the backend. (You are generally not getting sued out of existence.. ;) )

Thats an overgeneralization, that sometimes even is different with different categories of drugs, but generally should hold true.

The issue with "generally should hold true" is, that none of the current situation is 'generally'. ;) You basically have politicians pressuring the 'independant bodies' to greenlight it faster, because they are under public pressure "to do something". Also - generally speaking...

(On the left the 'talking point' you hear on Colbert f.e. is "I would take it in an instance, if the FDA approves it, but not if Trump tells me to get it". Pretty useless talking point, but you get the notion.. ;) )

There are also PR/marketing plays in action where some people are pushing for medical personal to "get it first".

While medical personal is in the high risk group, and definitely WILL get it early - the other high risk group is elderly people. If you give it to medical personal first, average age would be lower, which means that cases of 'severe sideeffects' also would be lower, which means better press for the first months or so.. ;) (Those are small considerations, but ones I cant help but noticing.. ;) )

In general, old people, medical personal and frequent travelers are first in line to get it. And rollout will take 2+ years, until you reach "heard immunity equivalent" numbers.


Also 95% or 90% effectiveness is almost exclusively PR. Thats not a number you should have to know or care about. If its lower you have to give people a second dose, a few months later. For the individual thats mostly irrelevant.
 
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I believe that round 1 of the vaccination program is to give it to the over 75s and all working in healthcare. Then round 2 is going to be 60 to 75s and anyone younger with health issues that could be fucked by coronavirus
 
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I do hope the politicians who approved mass rollout are first in line though, maybe then I'd be a bit more willing.
Joe Biden will get vaccinated in public. Bill Clinton, George Bush and Barack Obama have said they're willing to be vaccinated on television. In Australia federal politicians may be among the first to get vaccinated.

While I already decided to get vaccinated, seeing our politicians get it first will encourage me to get it sooner. Conspiracy theorists will inevitably make shit up like the video is a deepfake, a look-alike got vaccinated for them or the vaccine was replaced with a saline solution but those who are beyond reason are a lost cause.

Source 1: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...n-coronavirus-masks-vaccination-cnn-interview

Source 2: https://www.theguardian.com/austral...news?page=with:block-5fc849e48f08c1b9f1359053
 
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Good news, but I worry about the accessibility for people living at or under the poverty line, both in the US and everywhere else... I wonder how expensive this will be because I know pharmaceutical companies will do anything they can to milk consumers dry of their money. Plus Pfizer is a pretty shitty company, so I don't particularly trust them not to do some shady stuff.

MAYBE THEY'LL PUT MICROCHIPS IN THE VACCINES!!!!!!!! :ohnoes:
Or they'll put estrogen in the vaccines to weaken our strong western men and turn them into infertile SOY BOY CUCKS!



lol
 
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