U.S. Congress is getting ready to pass an internet censorship law

[Termer]

Ah yes, 8chan, the authority on... uh........... yeah

I know. 8ch, or any other chan for that matter, does not have any authority. It just happens to be where I first came across this, it was top of the nerve center. It's just a lot longer than the version here.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Maybe you should read before posting so you don't look like an arse?
This is one of the sources posted in that link.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1865

That's the text of the bill, yeah

Let's not pretend that 8chan isn't a source of a lot of right-wing trolling and content made in incredibly poor taste, alongside 4chan. It's not difficult to see why some members would potentially be paranoid about content relating to sexual assault/trafficking being "censored"

 

[Termer]

That's the text of the bill, yeah

Let's not pretend that 8chan isn't a source of a lot of right-wing trolling and content made in incredibly poor taste, alongside 4chan. It's not difficult to see why some members would potentially be paranoid about content relating to sexual assault/trafficking being "censored"

I agree. I don't use 4chan because it blocks Tor, and other such things, and is an overall worse place then fullchan. Fullchan is more like reddit, except with almost complete free speech, so I feel very safe there, being able to use Tor and not having the fear of being censored... yet.

 

[Captain_N]

The Tor Network says sup bro. Just use the tor network. Simple. The only way they can successfully censor the internet is if its like North Koreas internet which is a big intranet. Only the government internet it connected to the outside world. Citizens are forced to run north Korea's custom linux OS.

So yeah Tor network says hi. All the exit nodes should not report to the site they are connecting to as a Tor node.
All outgoing connections should be 100% faked. I never saw the point of the Tor nodes identifying themselves. The normal internet server you connect to through tor should not know you are on the tor network. Your ISP should not even know your connecting to a tor node. its all encrypted.

If you dont want to use tor then use a good VPN.

 

[Termer]

The Tor Network says sup bro. Just use the tor network. Simple. The only way they can successfully censor the internet is if its like North Koreas internet which is a big intranet. Only the government internet it connected to the outside world. Citizens are forced to run north Korea's custom linux OS.

So yeah Tor network says hi. All the exit nodes should not report to the site they are connecting to as a Tor node.
All outgoing connections should be 100% faked. I never saw the point of the Tor nodes identifying themselves. The normal internet server you connect to through tor should not know you are on the tor network. Your ISP should not even know your connecting to a tor node. its all encrypted.

If you dont want to use tor then use a good VPN.

I'm not worried about Tor. I'm worried about some sites getting shut down. Sites such as 8chan, which would be heavily impacted by such things, even though you can access it through Tor. It can't run anonymously because the owner is known. And other sites would be under a lot of pressure, since they would be responsible for their users' actions.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I'm not worried about Tor. I'm worried about some sites getting shut down. Sites such as 8chan, which would be heavily impacted by such things, even though you can access it through Tor. It can't run anonymously because the owner is known. And other sites would be under a lot of pressure, since they would be responsible for their users' actions.

May I ask why people are so concerned about 8chan being taken down due to a bill that would target posts advertising/supporting human trafficking?

 

[Termer]

May I ask why people are so concerned about 8chan being taken down due to a bill that would target posts advertising/supporting human trafficking?

Because of people who want websites like that dead. People post things there all the time that could be interpreted as such activity, and get the site shut down quickly. Sites like this, not so much, but it could still happen if someone wanted the temp dead.

 

[Captain_N]

I'm not worried about Tor. I'm worried about some sites getting shut down. Sites such as 8chan, which would be heavily impacted by such things, even though you can access it through Tor. It can't run anonymously because the owner is known. And other sites would be under a lot of pressure, since they would be responsible for their users' actions.

I see what you mean. They will just have to host that shit in Russia. You think the US can get the Russians to shut down a server? nope. The Russian government was paying people to put up seed boxes to help pirate American content. The Russians also run large Direct Connect + (DC++) hubs. Servers sharing more then 50TB. one hub is sharing 2.1PB right now All HD rips of movies and Tv shows. They seemed to be all linked.

 

[Termer]

I see what you mean. They will just have to host that shit in Russia. You think the US can get the Russians to shut down a server? nope. The Russian government was paying people to put up seed boxes to help pirate American content. The Russians also run large Direct Connect + (DC++) hubs. Servers sharing more then 50TB. one hub is sharing 2.1PB right now All HD rips of movies and Tv shows. They seemed to be all linked.

That might be a good idea for some sites. I'm very worried, as I found this out very close to when I'm finishing my website's social/boards system. I don't know what I'll do if this passes.

 

[the_randomizer]

I agree. I don't use 4chan because it blocks Tor, and other such things, and is an overall worse place then fullchan. Fullchan is more like reddit, except with almost complete free speech, so I feel very safe there, being able to use Tor and not having the fear of being censored... yet.

Would it be such a bad thing to see 4chan shut down, given the kind of depraved garbage it spews daily?

 

[Termer]

Would it be such a bad thing to see 4chan shut down, given the kind of depraved garbage it spews daily?

I don't quite want 4chan dead. Mostly because I have a soft spot for /g/, and the /x/ board does cool stuff. Other than that, yeah, I'd love to see that die.

 

[the_randomizer]

I don't quite want 4chan dead. Mostly because I have a soft spot for /g/, and the /x/ board does cool stuff. Other than that, yeah, I'd love to see that die.

I've had nothing but bad experience on there, among other issues I have with it. People hiding behind the cowardice of anonymity just to hurl insults and other horrible acts, but I digress.

 

[Termer]

I've had nothing but bad experience on there, among other issues I have with it. People hiding behind the cowardice of anonymity just to hurl insults and other horrible acts, but I digress.

If anyone here owns a website, it would be appreciated if you add a link to the eff org article on the bill. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/02/fosta-would-be-disaster-online-communities I already added the link to my homepage.

 

[the_randomizer]

If anyone here owns a website, it would be appreciated if you add a link to the eff org article on the bill. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/02/fosta-would-be-disaster-online-communities I already added the link to my homepage.

I don't know of any website owners, currently.

 

[slaphappygamer]

Wouldn’t having a VPN work?

 

[Beerus]

im sure this law is here so they can stop furry's and lewding lolis

 

[DarthDub]

May I ask why people are so concerned about 8chan being taken down due to a bill that would target posts advertising/supporting human trafficking?

Because this is just SOPA disguised as something else right now. If you really wanted to stop human trafficking, then start reporting stuff on the Deep Web.

 

[osaka35]

Logic isn't something congress is good with, so who knows what kind of implications this would have. A website being liable for what users share is worrisome, though it already happens with warez and whatnot sharing. They're pretty good at removing links to illegal stuff on this forum anyway.

Edit:
Though thinking about it, the difference is with warez, you're linking to actual data. An actual thing. This law would make them liable for the content of their speech, not copyrighted code. That's a pretty important distinction.

 

[Xzi]

FYI guys your ISP knows when you're using a VPN. With Net Neutrality gone, expect extra costs associated with VPNs in the not-too-distant future.

 

[dAVID_]

I hope 8chan is just pulling a well made troll, then we'll make a thread about how we were all bamboozled.