1. MattKimura

    OP MattKimura 3DS & WiiU Enthusiast
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    This isn't anything new, just a reminder that it's fairly simple to actually migrate to SysNAND from RedNAND. Many poor souls still trapped in RedNAND setups, killing their SD card's life cycle. These old users were told that RedNAND was the wae, and that they had to go out and buy a 64 GB SD card (16 GB if they had 8 GB Wiiu's). Users usually complain about paying $7 for haxchi, but wow these users had to buy haxchi AND pay for a big SD card! After many months these users have no idea what's going on anymore and end up in sticky situations. RedNAND usually causes more problems than actually being beneficial. Today most users rely on SysNAND alone where it's completely safe and reliable to run homebrew and backups. So essentially RedNAND was a big waste of time. Fortunately it's pretty easy to migrate from RedNAND to SysNAND. I'll explain briefly how this process is done rather than give an elaborate step by step guide. Even if you don't need this guide for yourself, this can be useful information if you plan on helping someone in this type of situation.



    1. Boot into RedNAND as you usually do, using Mocha. Or Haxchi > Mocha

    2. In RedNAND, move ALL installed games from the system storage to a USB storage that's formatted by your system. Your USB is shared between SysNAND and RedNAND since it's technically the same Wiiu console. However, the game's tickets are stuck on RedNAND which are needed to boot the games. So you'll need to move the tickets over to SysNAND with the steps below. After this, your games should appear in SysNAND and be playable without the need to boot into RedNAND in which you can forget about using it anymore.

    3. Now run Homerbew Launcher via Haxchi in RedNAND

    4. Run FTPiiu Everywhere <-- Download

    5. Connect to your Wiiu using an FTP client on your PC such as WinSCP or Filezilla

    6. Browse to storage_SLC/rights/ticket/ and you'll find two folders called sys and apps. Copy both of these to your computer

    7. Browse to your SD card and go to wiiu/apps/mocha and delete the config.ini file so that it will no longer autoboot into RedNAND

    8. Now you can turn off your wiiu. Boot up your wiiu but do not boot into RedNAND.
    Note: If you were using Coldboot Haxchi, you should uninstall it at this point just in case something goes wrong with its ticket and no longer functions after. All you have to do is run the CBHC installer and press B. You can use the "Do Not Touch Me" icon to get into homebrew launcher for the steps below.

    9. Now that you're on SysNAND, boot Haxchi for Homebrew Launcher then launch Mocha and press A after. You should now have Mocha CFW enabled over SysNAND which is needed for the upcoming step

    10. Run Mii Maker to get into Homebrew Launcher again (Since the exploit is still active from running HBL before)

    11. Run Ftpiiu Everywhere and connect to your Wiiu with your FTP Client like before

    12. Browse to storage_SLC/rights/ticket/ and copy both your sys and app folders that you downloaded from RedNAND earlier to this directory. You'll want to replace these files with the ones you got from RedNAND.
    EDIT: It helps to copy each indivisual ticket file one by one, otherwise it wouldn't copy properly if you copy everything at once. Confirmed by users who succeeded.

    13. Now that you have your tickets moved over to SysNAND, your games should work now without booting into RedNAND. Now all you have to simply do is not boot into RedNAND and that concludes the migration process!



    Feel free to move games to system storage if needed. If you don't have a big enough USB device, you can possibly move games little by little and repeating the process of moving games to USB then moving them to SysNAND's storage. The last thing you can do if you want is to merge the partitions on your SD card into one, getting rid of RedNAND from your SD card and freeing up 32 GB/8GB of space. You can also extract your NAND backup straight from your SD card before formatting it.


    Thanks to my friend Flump on Discord who taught me about retrieving and importing the tickets from RedNAND to SysNAND. It wouldn't otherwise be possible to migrate anything to SysNAND. Now that its figured out, we have a for sure way of migrating. It's even easier if you've already had your games installed to USB. I hope this helps anyone who wants to undo their RedNAND mistake and wants the more standard SysNAND setup.
     
    Last edited by MattKimura, Mar 4, 2018
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  2. ctrlp

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    Thank you for this, i've really needed this.
     
  3. godreborn

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    I actually still have a redNAND partition on my sd card. I don't use it though. ;)
     
  4. manupunk07

    manupunk07 Newbie
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  5. kbmarinha

    kbmarinha Life sucks...
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    I have CBHC that autoboots to mocha.
    if I move all installed games from system to HDD, wouldnt brick? i mean, brain age is installed in system, I can see the game in data manager when im on rednand but on Sysnand it just show something with /!\

    do I have to uninstall cold boot before doing all those steps?
     
  6. GATWYAY3.2

    GATWYAY3.2 GBAtemp Regular
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    i can no longer connect to wifi with rednand, is it becuase i uploated my sys to 5.3 and rednand is at 5.1? so i cant use ftp
     
  7. jnfirst

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    I'll try it, thank you!
     
  8. Akorax

    Akorax Advanced Member
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    I migrated my data by following this guide. It went smoothly since the guide is well written but I had one exception (which was not the guides fault) of which I will get into later in this post. Prior to migration I had SysNAND 5.5.1 and RedNAND 5.5.2 and the following questions:
    • How to check if I use CBHC?
    • Is being on sysnand kid-proof?
    • Do I need to have both NAND's on the same OS version for migration to work?
    • How do I migrate a user back to SysNAND?
    ...of which I recieved the following answers:
    • CBHC should display a bootscreen on startup other than the WiiU one. (I did not have any custom bootscreen when I started my console)
    • Being on SysNAND is kid-proof but take your time to setup parental controls, especially if you're gonna use CBHC.
    • You shouldn't need to have both NAND's on the same OS version. (In my case this was true)
    • This wasn't entirely clear but I found a page on The Cutting Room Floor that displayed the filestructure of the WiiU and managed to copy the user folder over to sysNAND (storage_mlc/usr/save/system/pdm/<userfolder>)
    The savegame data lies within (storage_mlc/usr/save/) which seem to have copied without issue and for the tickets I copied them all at once. The exception now is the userdata. I copied my user, which was first created on SysNAND, then I did the same with another that was first created on RedNAND. This led to the game not recognizing the second user and an error occur when ever I select it which means I couldn't delete it the regular way. I had a look at the logs and they gave error 150-3032 which in this case was a permission error. It seemed something was wrong with the BaristaAccountSaveFile for that account. I deleted the folder that file was in and now it's working fine.

    Some quick notes:
    • I used WinSCP for the FTP part, it will prompt you for a username and password but I just clicked anonymous and continued.
    • If you have forgotten how to get to HBL from HaxChi, you just hold down the A-button after starting the app.
    • CBHC isn't really compatible with the quickstart menu so don't forget to disable that.
    Thanks to Flump and the gang at Nintendo Homebrew discord for helping me with this so far!
     
    Last edited by Akorax, Jan 6, 2021
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