Hacking Trying to get waninkoko to work on 3DS

[Tom Bombadildo]

Lulz shovelware is inevitable, not one system out there doesn't have shovelware regardless of its hacked status. So if you think leaving the 3DS unhacked will just magically mean no shovelware you are 100% wrong. Like Xuphor said, shovelware is already coming and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Cry about piracy all you want, only a small percentage of anybody playing a video game actually pirate on their system, if everybody did then this forum would be HUGE, millions and millions of users and guests than just the 265,000 we have.

 

[chyyran]

Action 52 anyone? The NES was never hacked in it's day, and it still got shovelware, even before people found out how to emulate the thing.

It wasn't actually licensed, but still, If you want a licensed example, look at ET Extraterrestrial for the Atari 2600.

 

[PriMieon]

i think a system hack after a few years would be okay... BUT NOT THAT SOON...or not at all

 

[BobTheJoeBob]

Lulz shovelware is inevitable, not one system out there doesn't have shovelware regardless of its hacked status. So if you think leaving the 3DS unhacked will just magically mean no shovelware you are 100% wrong. Like Xuphor said, shovelware is already coming and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Cry about piracy all you want, only a small percentage of anybody playing a video game actually pirate on their system, if everybody did then this forum would be HUGE, millions and millions of users and guests than just the 265,000 we have.

Generally people think that if a system is hacked early, developers will be less inclined to develop for it, as a result, severe lacking of AAA titles. Whether or not this is true is very much debatable.

 

[zanfire]

most people dont even know how to hack a system, and even with the DS and it being much easier, there are just not that many people who can not only understand it, but know it exists in the first place. It not like this stuff is really advertised, so you tend to hear it or see it from somewhere to even know its there....and understanding how to do it is a whole different thing. i can bet half the people who have heard of it think they will mess up and destroy their systems, or dont want to ruin their chances of playing online (or think they will be sued)

some people here make it seem like if a the tiny % of us hack it and pirate that developers even notice that or care. Please name 1 time youve seen anything about devs saying they wont develop for X console/handheld because of piracy....please id love to see it.

 

[Tom Bombadildo]

Lulz shovelware is inevitable, not one system out there doesn't have shovelware regardless of its hacked status. So if you think leaving the 3DS unhacked will just magically mean no shovelware you are 100% wrong. Like Xuphor said, shovelware is already coming and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Cry about piracy all you want, only a small percentage of anybody playing a video game actually pirate on their system, if everybody did then this forum would be HUGE, millions and millions of users and guests than just the 265,000 we have.
Generally people think that if a system is hacked early, developers will be less inclined to develop for it, as a result, severe lacking of AAA titles. Whether or not this is true is very much debatable.


Well one of the major things I think is people expect EVERY title to be AAA, and if it's not they claim it's shovelware.

QUOTE(zanfire @ Sep 1 2011, 01:58 PM)

most people dont even know how to hack a system, and even with the DS and it being much easier, there are just not that many people who can not only understand it, but know it exists in the first place. It not like this stuff is really advertised, so you tend to hear it or see it from somewhere to even know its there....and understanding how to do it is a whole different thing. i can bet half the people who have heard of it think they will mess up and destroy their systems, or dont want to ruin their chances of playing online (or think they will be sued)

some people here make it seem like if a the tiny % of us hack it and pirate that developers even notice that or care. Please name 1 time youve seen anything about devs saying they wont develop for X console/handheld because of piracy....please id love to see it.

It's been seen all of the time. Developers still care, that's why we have all of these DRM protections and the harder to hack systems, what I'm trying to say is that piracy isn't big enough to effect total sales of a game, forcing a company to make shovelware to combat it. Shovelware will always happen and anybody who says any different just doesn't understand much about the gaming world.

 

[DxEggman]

do you guys really want the system to turn into a shovleware console so fast?

I don't particularly want the 3DS hacked, but you are incredibly naive if you think shovelware is a result of piracy, or that piracy is to blame for shovelware.

 

[Jockel]

Great idea, because online petitions always work out.

 

[Deleted member 473940]

No 3DS, no money for it (and if I have money I would use it to buy other stuff)... I don't think I'll work on the 3DS soon

/thread ?

Why is this topic alive?

 

[Naridar]

Not to mention the target audience for shovelware (typically children under the age of 10) aren't knowledgeable enough to know how to hack a console, or even know that it can be hacked.

And the most successful consoles I know were hacked early: almost everyone I know who had a PS1 and PS2 had it hacked (though in Hungary, it's much more common than in other parts of Europe or the US for that matter), and it they still ruled their respective generations, with tons of great games, from God of War and Metal Gear Solid to Final Fantasy and Shin Megami Tensei Persona.

As for the Wii, I remember that when it came out in Dec. 2006, hacking attempts were imminent and Wiinja (the first Wii modchip) was released 07/01/2007, exactly 1 month after the console's launch. Still, that didn't stop Nintendo from publishing great games even to the present: Mario Galaxy 1/2, Smash Bros. Brawl, Xenoblade chronicles, Zelda Skyward Sword, etc.

And while I didn't follow the news when the DS was freshly released, but when I bought mine in 2007, R4 cards were already in production (and that was around the release of Pokemon Diamond and Pearl). Still, great games were released afterwards.

So there. I'm sick of the no-hack crusaders blaming everything bad on hacking up to and including the economic crisis, the losses of their favourite team and everything that messes with their life, and I'm sure most posters on this particular subforum (aptly named HACKING and homebrew) think the same way. On these forums, flaming hack-supporters can and will get you flamed and it's only your fault.

 

[notmeanymore]

Idk about you guys, but I think I'll end up buying more 3DS games because the DS was hacked. I wouldn't have ever put the money at risk to buy a game like Phoenix Wright or Professor Layton.

Now, for my favorite series comebacks on the 3DS, I'll spend the money if I have it, or pirate until I do, if such an option is available to me.

Moving on, to those who will send Waninkoko a 3DS for hacking, keep in mind that it's very likely that any hacker would need multiple 3DS's, especially if one bricks(which is more likely than you'd hope).
Maybe if 5 rich bastards(I wish I was such a person) all sent Waninkoko a 3DS, we may see something come of it, (neglecting what Team Twiizers says).

 

[chyyran]

Idk about you guys, but I think I'll end up buying more 3DS games because the DS was hacked. I wouldn't have ever put the money at risk to buy a game like Phoenix Wright or Professor Layton.

Now, for my favorite series comebacks on the 3DS, I'll spend the money if I have it, or pirate until I do, if such an option is available to me.

Moving on, to those who will send Waninkoko a 3DS for hacking, keep in mind that it's very likely that any hacker would need multiple 3DS's, especially if one bricks(which is more likely than you'd hope).
Maybe if 5 rich bastards(I wish I was such a person) all sent Waninkoko a 3DS, we may see something come of it, (neglecting what Team Twiizers says).

IMO, you'll have a better chance of hacking your 3DS if you send 3DSes to Team Twiizers.

Wanninkoko is just one person. Team Twiizers are a bunch of people.

 

[notmeanymore]

Idk about you guys, but I think I'll end up buying more 3DS games because the DS was hacked. I wouldn't have ever put the money at risk to buy a game like Phoenix Wright or Professor Layton.

Now, for my favorite series comebacks on the 3DS, I'll spend the money if I have it, or pirate until I do, if such an option is available to me.

Moving on, to those who will send Waninkoko a 3DS for hacking, keep in mind that it's very likely that any hacker would need multiple 3DS's, especially if one bricks(which is more likely than you'd hope).
Maybe if 5 rich bastards(I wish I was such a person) all sent Waninkoko a 3DS, we may see something come of it, (neglecting what Team Twiizers says).

IMO, you'll have a better chance of hacking your 3DS if you send 3DSes to Team Twiizers.

Wanninkoko is just one person. Team Twiizers are a bunch of people.

There ya go. I couldn't find a neutral way of saying it.

 

[ichichfly]

Moving on, to those who will send Waninkoko a 3DS for hacking, keep in mind that it's very likely that any hacker would need multiple 3DS's, especially if one bricks(which is more likely than you'd hope).
Maybe if 5 rich bastards(I wish I was such a person) all sent Waninkoko a 3DS, we may see something come of it, (neglecting what Team Twiizers says).

I think you don't know mutch about hacking and you don't know at what point we are nobody can see the code or the nand key that mean you can't even brick you 3ds exeption if you are realy stupid and trying to write data to the nand chip. lol It is the same result if you send me some 3ds: nothing may some oh year I can change the time while playing.

ADD: I have made the yu-gi-owned hack so I know it the only hope is tt. I know most of the code is from the tw hack but it only take about 2 hour for the first Version most because I don't anderstand how the wii works

ADD2: you can destroy the hw if you play with the hw but I don't think if you don't have a job that teach you that you will result in garbage data. If you try to hack the 3ds by some hw mods.

ADD3: Even if you are the best software hacker in the world you can't hack the 3ds because all you see is encrypted

 

[Wolvenreign]

Waninkoko, if you're still reading this, I would like to unconditionally thank you for the work you did on the Wii. You have my most sincere gratitude.

 

[notmeanymore]

Moving on, to those who will send Waninkoko a 3DS for hacking, keep in mind that it's very likely that any hacker would need multiple 3DS's, especially if one bricks(which is more likely than you'd hope).
Maybe if 5 rich bastards(I wish I was such a person) all sent Waninkoko a 3DS, we may see something come of it, (neglecting what Team Twiizers says).

I think you don't know mutch about hacking and you don't know at what point we are nobody can see the code or the nand key that mean you can't even brick you 3ds exeption if you are realy stupid and trying to write data to the nand chip. lol It is the same result if you send me some 3ds: nothing may some oh year I can change the time while playing.

ADD: I have made the yu-gi-owned hack so I know it the only hope is tt. I know most of the code is from the tw hack but it only take about 2 hour for the first Version most because I don't anderstand how the wii works

ADD2: you can destroy the hw if you play with the hw but I don't think if you don't have a job that teach you that you will result in garbage data. If you try to hack the 3ds by some hw mods.

ADD3: Even if you are the best software hacker in the world you can't hack the 3ds because all you see is encrypted

I don't mean this in an insulting manner, but could you write that in German? (I assume that's your mother language) I think I'd understand you better.
GBAtemp is English-only though, so you could PM me.

All I was saying is, when the time comes, and I'm sure it will, NAND access will be required for good hacks, (not exploits like your Yu-Gi-Owned, which many of us appreciate). When that time does come, you're in uncharted territory. Anything could go wrong. It's good to have more than one 3DS kicking around for such a scenario.

 

[T.Kuranari]

Moving on, to those who will send Waninkoko a 3DS for hacking, keep in mind that it's very likely that any hacker would need multiple 3DS's, especially if one bricks(which is more likely than you'd hope).
Maybe if 5 rich bastards(I wish I was such a person) all sent Waninkoko a 3DS, we may see something come of it, (neglecting what Team Twiizers says).

I think you don't know mutch about hacking and you don't know at what point we are nobody can see the code or the nand key that mean you can't even brick you 3ds exeption if you are realy stupid and trying to write data to the nand chip. lol It is the same result if you send me some 3ds: nothing may some oh year I can change the time while playing.

ADD: I have made the yu-gi-owned hack so I know it the only hope is tt. I know most of the code is from the tw hack but it only take about 2 hour for the first Version most because I don't anderstand how the wii works

ADD2: you can destroy the hw if you play with the hw but I don't think if you don't have a job that teach you that you will result in garbage data. If you try to hack the 3ds by some hw mods.

ADD3: Even if you are the best software hacker in the world you can't hack the 3ds because all you see is encrypted

I don't mean this in an insulting manner, but could you write that in German? (I assume that's your mother language) I think I'd understand you better.
GBAtemp is English-only though, so you could PM me.

All I was saying is, when the time comes, and I'm sure it will, NAND access will be required for good hacks, (not exploits like your Yu-Gi-Owned, which many of us appreciate). When that time does come, you're in uncharted territory. Anything could go wrong. It's good to have more than one 3DS kicking around for such a scenario.

English is not my native language but I still understand him perfectly fine. Basically he is saying that it doesn't matter how good a coder is if everything is encrypted. You can't work with the 3DS if everything is secured by a strong encryption. Waninkoko may be a good coder, but he never hacked a gaming device, not the Wii, not the PS3 and certainly not the 3DS.

The only people that are capable of hacking the 3DS are a few members of Team Twiizers, but they said that it's a lot harder than hacking the DSi. Hence that's why Satoru Iwata did boast about the advanced security of the 3DS in multiple interviews.

If you claim that you are sure that the 3DS will be hacked, then you obviously know nothing about hacking. As far as the DSi goes, Nintendo clearly won against the hackers. Sure you can use illegal flash carts to play pirated games and homebrew, but that only works in DS mode. The DSi side of the DSi is still locked tight and most likely DSi homebrew will never happen again, not to mention NAND access (forget about the Cyclo DS iEvolution, that cart is a piece of junk). So, you have to think that if the DSi is secured that good, how good has the 3DS to be secured?

I see a lot of weird 3DS hacking theory threads here, but in my opinion they are all epic fail. Again the only people that might have a slight chance of hacking the 3DS - and by hacking the 3DS I mean a way to obtain a decryption key - are a few members of Team Twiizers. They have done it in the past with the Wii and DSi through ramhaxx, meaning hooking up the RAM to the PC and analyse it. I believe if there is a chance of hacking the 3DS, then only with RAM sniffing. But that doesn't neccessarily mean 3DS homebrew will be possible. Look at the DSi, ramhaxx has been done but Nintendo has killed DSi homebrew since system update 1.4.2 and the future doesn't look very good.

 

[ichichfly]

Moving on, to those who will send Waninkoko a 3DS for hacking, keep in mind that it's very likely that any hacker would need multiple 3DS's, especially if one bricks(which is more likely than you'd hope).
Maybe if 5 rich bastards(I wish I was such a person) all sent Waninkoko a 3DS, we may see something come of it, (neglecting what Team Twiizers says).

I think you don't know mutch about hacking and you don't know at what point we are nobody can see the code or the nand key that mean you can't even brick you 3ds exeption if you are realy stupid and trying to write data to the nand chip. lol It is the same result if you send me some 3ds: nothing may some oh year I can change the time while playing.

ADD: I have made the yu-gi-owned hack so I know it the only hope is tt. I know most of the code is from the tw hack but it only take about 2 hour for the first Version most because I don't anderstand how the wii works

ADD2: you can destroy the hw if you play with the hw but I don't think if you don't have a job that teach you that you will result in garbage data. If you try to hack the 3ds by some hw mods.

ADD3: Even if you are the best software hacker in the world you can't hack the 3ds because all you see is encrypted

I don't mean this in an insulting manner, but could you write that in German? (I assume that's your mother language) I think I'd understand you better.
GBAtemp is English-only though, so you could PM me.

All I was saying is, when the time comes, and I'm sure it will, NAND access will be required for good hacks, (not exploits like your Yu-Gi-Owned, which many of us appreciate). When that time does come, you're in uncharted territory. Anything could go wrong. It's good to have more than one 3DS kicking around for such a scenario.

OK sorry I miss misunderstand something I thought you are talking about hacking the 3ds at the current point. Later of cause we need every one we can get.

ADD1:The only thing I sad yesterday or want to say is that we need hw hacker yet not software yet.

ADD3:Even Yellows8 is currently working on the DSi because the 3DS has only encrypted data and must be if you want to hack it hacked by hw first.

ADD2:I think the ADD1 is better than a pn with the post in german

ADD4: the post from T.Kuranari is better than this post

 

[bowser]

I don't want the 3DS to be hacked. I don't feel like playing with 3D ponies just yet.

I'm glad Waninkoko doesn't have a 3DS

No offense!

 

[Xuphor]

I don't want the 3DS to be hacked. I don't feel like playing with 3D ponies just yet.

I'm glad Waninkoko doesn't have a 3DS

No offense!

How about puppies?
http://ds.ign.com/objects/114/114582.html

Face it people: Shovelware is already coming 3DS. That game's even got terrible graphics for a regular DS game, at the full 3DS game price! Not to mention it's gameplay is just a horribly run down version of Nintendogs, which was bad enough imo.