TrustZoneHax on 3.x and below

Discussion in 'Switch - Exploits, Custom Firmwares & Soft Mods' started by Lia, Jan 16, 2018.

  1. guily6669

    guily6669 GbaTemp is my Drug

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    Well, I'm not a fan of anything, but I think TX solution will probably be better and keep us always on the latest FW probably easier than using a software solution that may be months or years behind the latest FW and might start to having to emulate the latest FW...

    Who knows if TX also make it constantly stealth for online gaming and keep updating it and making it stealth...

    Ps: it also might allow us to have more solutions like having custom TX features + using any softmode solution together... + also bricks might start to happen and the hardware solution might offer easy recovery
     
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  2. SwitchNOW

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    I'm stalking SciresM :ph34r:
     
  3. thomasnet

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    You're not in the right place to do so
     
  4. Hondyn

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    Thats always the same thing, people say the 4x wont be hacked, afyer a couple of weeks, its hacked . It happened to the 3ds, ps1ps2 and will happen to the switch too, it will be hacked in all firmwares. While it doesnt happen i will be going through wonderboy once more.
     
  5. Yeah and it gets hacked after they already did the stupid shit of updating from 4 to 5 then we have to have our ears bleed for 2 weeks on GBAtemp.
     
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    It wasn't a matter of formatting but a driver needed to support Micro SD and SDXC cards on the Switch. It's a seperate update from system updates, so when I was prompted to install it to support the card I didn't think it would actually update the firmware. Alas, it did.
     
  7. Memoir

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    They must have changed it. The SDXC 'update' was just a driver update it seemed.
     
  8. Maximilious

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    Yeah, I was quite miffed about it. I wanted to stay on 4.0 for potential HB down the line, especially since I could still get to eShop and such too.
     
  9. M-Gardevoir

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    WAIT.

    That's mean, not long before, i've read some guys who's told me it's was useless to stay at 3.0.2 and told me to update. Now i saw that TZHax is compatible with 3.X (mean 3.0.2 too) ?

    TAKE THAT YOU NERDS, I WAS RIGHT HAHAHAHA IN THE FACE, MY SWITCH IS STILL ON 3.0.2 I WAS RIGHT AHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA.


    Sorry overjoyed.
     
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  10. SwitchNOW

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    i'm just kidding
     
  11. notimp

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    I find it fascinating how many people in here are all about drawing linear analogies, of how long it took to reach one milestone, and therefore how long it would take to "hack" a more current firmware and put their past bets on how longit would take on display, and that they were right - and...

    I have two aspects to add. :)

    - First, we as humans like linear progression very, very much. Complex issue solving, on the contrary, very seldomly follows a linear path though - especially if there is only a select group of people working on it. There are people out there ("futurists") who extrapolate different (exponential - because investors like exponential growthcurves) developments in industries into a linear model of how the future will look like, and every one of them I've whitnessed so far had a little of that scam artist swagger to them. ;) - In short, forecasting timeframes is hard.

    - Second, there is a logical fallacy called "reference systems". Lets take this as an example. When SciresM posted, that he had an exploit or TZ on 2.x and would start to probe 3.x very soon, the first estimate that people produced were that it would probably take another 4-6 months (probably after the executer release thats scheduled in spring). It took two days - because it turned out, that the same exploit worked on both systems. Now, 4-6 months was an educated guestimate based on how long it took for the first ones to pop up in public, but the reference system was wrong - as in "that would be the time it probably would take to exploit TZ on the next higher revision".

    In closing - humans most of the time are extremely bad at judging timeframes - if their predictions hit, more often than not (and we are talking about a binary problem, not management being able to outsource, or cut corners, or ship pre solved.. ;) ) it comes down to sheer luck. :)

    The reason I'm telling you this story is - that making time frame predictions is about the Nr.1 thing most people in here seem to be engaged in. And this strikes me as strangely irrational - every time, im reading threads in here.

    Thought I'd at least mention it. ;)

    edit: The flipside of the second example would be, that an entry point is patched, and all sort of probing does not lead to an actionable result. Sometimes the best thing you can do is to wait, take breaks, think things over, wait for a new pair of eyes to look at things. The timeframe in those cases is entirely open ended. :) Sometimes whats deemed "necessary" changes for the scene - if half of the proponents in here probably can run HB in the not too forseeable future - including most/all of the reverse engineers - motivation to look for exploits that work on the most current firmware iterations (moving target) might take a dip. Or not. ;)

    According to more generalized forecastings the Switch should have been hacked - about two years from now. :)
     
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  12. He didnt say he was going to try and get Trustzone on 3.x he just came out and said it works on it after finding it and letting us all know for 2.x. It was obvious someone would get it for 3.x eventually as that is natural progression. We didn't judges any time frames, for all we know he got this stuff weeks after the console came out. Its all speculation.
     
  13. notimp

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    Just a general comment. Not directed at anyone specific - because everyone is doing it (myself included at times.. ;) ).
     
  14. Sorry if it came across blunt, didnt mean to. I just think people here make wrongful guess's and this is what makes people update their consoles because they think they missed their chance.
     
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  15. Ronhero

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    Whats the maximum non xc size? I am wondering once we get emunand will we need to for example use a 32gb card, make and update emu and then use some kind of transfer tool to a larger one

    Edit: 32gb is the largest non xc
     
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  16. Memoir

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  20. Sharinflan

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    Now the thing is, once we get cfw will we be able to update it or are we going to get stuck like Vita without being able to enjoy some games?
    Think I'll hold on buying one before we know that.
     
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