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Trump leads Kamala in nearly every swing state [Update: Trump wins the 2024 election]

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Well since the MAGAts are already claiming the election is being stolen... I guess if Trumpo wins then we can say they were right, he certainly cheated.
If he wins, then it's possible that Trump rigged the election so that he always wins.
 
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i dont really care if people online take me seriously or not. im honest and truthful in my statements and if people dont like them oh well. thats me. im not putting up a facade or being peer pressured to not be who i am. if that means people dont take me seriously so be it.
Listen, I think people should vote with who they think best stands by their beliefs. Whether it’s flat out not voting, write in, a third party, or either of the major candidates. I think conviction > political theater or virtue signaling, etc. I think three of the options are a wasted vote, and the political climate is only going to be more divisive and races are going to be closer and closer and increasingly important every cycle, but I think people should go with their gut. I personally wouldn’t vote for Kamala, if I wasn’t in a purple state, but I’m playing lesser evilism here because the alternative is truly something I do not want. I am a bit more concerned with my local and state elections, though, fwiw.

But your reasoning of vitriol and name calling should also go to the candidate you somehow decided on via interactions on a forum, no? There is only one of the two major candidates spouting vitriol and calling their opponents names on a daily basis, and it’s just strange you wouldn’t factor that in as well. I personally think you might just be posting bait, but you understand why people are confused about your logic here, no?
 

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Politics affects everyone, whether they like it or not.

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Is the world doomed if Trump wins?
It would be a hell of a lot worse place to live in. Trump would:
  • Easily surrender US to Putin and/or Kim Jong-Un
  • Not care about climate change (complained about clean wind energy or windmills decreasing bacon consumption, remember?)
  • Discriminate non-white races and women
  • Deport millions of immigrants (many of which are the backbone of many jobs and workforce)
  • Increase prices on everything because of increased tariffs and letting greedy corporations to price gouge.
  • Dismantle the Department of Education
  • Put all his opponents in jail like a dictator
  • Tax cuts for his rich allies
  • Tax increase on the middle-class
  • Remove the Affordable Care Act
  • Possibly make it so that voting no longer has any power to elect anyone outside of his corrupt party.
  • etc.
He is a threat to the US and would definitely affect the entire world as an extension of the US's global influence.

Of course, if he does become elected, he won't be "leading" for long with his deteriorating physical and mental state. He'll let his cronies handle it as outlined in Project 2025.
 
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Is the world doomed if Trump wins?
In the short term, probably just Palestinians and Ukrainians. In the long term, yes. SCOTUS is willing to toss out any/all of the constitution at Trump's behest, and he's openly admitted that his dream is to become a dictator like Xi Jinping or Putin. The EU wouldn't last long if the US started helping China and Russia to undermine it, either.
 

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In the short term, probably just Palestinians and Ukrainians. In the long term, yes. SCOTUS is willing to toss out any/all of the constitution at Trump's behest, and he's openly admitted that his dream is to become a dictator like Xi Jinping or Putin. The EU wouldn't last long if the US started helping China and Russia to undermine it, either.
The mere mention of being a dictator on Day 1 should make people tremble, because when has a dictator willingly given up or reduced their power of dictatorship?
 

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The mere mention of being a dictator on Day 1 should make people tremble, because when has a dictator willingly given up or reduced their power of dictatorship?
Most of the time, it led to coup d'états that either made the dictator stand down and forcibly give up power, exile, or outright killed.

Unfortunately, people never read on History, so we end up having a nation making the same mistakes, despite thinking they are untouchable, due to propaganda and conceit.
 
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I used to think the citizens in Star Wars cheering for someone as obviously and cartoonishly evil as Palpatine taking over, giving him the benefit of the doubt over the Jedi maybe possibly being a bit corrupt, was something that could only happen in the fantastical, juvenile universe of Star Wars. That the only way they could rationalize it was through the presence of an all-consuming magical force that seeps into and manipulates everyone's minds. Now, I'm not so sure.
 

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I used to think the citizens in Star Wars cheering for someone as obviously and cartoonishly evil as Palpatine taking over, giving him the benefit of the doubt over the Jedi maybe possibly being a bit corrupt, was something that could only happen in the fantastical, juvenile universe of Star Wars. That the only way they could rationalize it was through the presence of an all-consuming magical force that seeps into and manipulates everyone's minds. Now, I'm not so sure.
I mean

If you look at history you will see similar things

Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Franco, Mussolini etc
 

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I mean

If you look at history you will see similar things

Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Franco, Mussolini etc
Yes, but there's a huge gap between leaders from 100 years ago in second and third world countries, versus 2024 in the US. We should be better than that, goddamnit.
 

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I mean

If you look at history you will see similar things

Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Franco, Mussolini etc
The original Star Wars trilogy was also an allegory for the Vietnam war, and Palpatine represents Nixon.
 

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Yes, but there's a huge gap between leaders from 100 years ago in second and third world countries, versus 2024 in the US. We should be better than that, goddamnit.
No matter the era, it always comes back to being the same.

People spread messages using journalism. Papers, public speeches, books, etc
All effective ways of propagating information and misinformation.

Today? The same thing. What's the difference? The outright scale of it all and how easy it is for foreign parties to interfere.

No matter the era, as long as we live it society, unless the entire nation has a proper framework of thought, it will always be the same.
 

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