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how do trump fans not see that if he wins, his scrutiny worked, if he loses, it failed
like, there is no possibility that trump can lose fairly, it can only be a PLOT, a TRICK
like, imagine if it actually went down fairly, trump just straight lost
how would that be proven to any of you, how would that meaningfully be communicated
we all saw the court cases in 2020, man's team had nothing, they just talked big when he couldn't be done for perjury
man has never won the popular vote, not even against hillary
how do we even reach you
Trump being a winner is his brand. We have countless examples of him just lying or making shit up. He once opined he could shoot someone and not lose voters. He is aware of his personality cult and he and the inner circle cynically exploit these people and their hardships to enrich themselves. Trump is either a) delusional and believes his bullshit or b) doesn't believe much of anything but has created a niche for himself that he uses as a vehicle to power.


I tend to believe Trump believes most of his nonsense but on some level he ought to know when it is crazy.
 
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Trump being a winner is his brand. We have countless examples of him just lying or making shit up. He once opined he could shoot someone and not lose voters. He is aware of his personality cult and he and the inner circle cynically exploit these people and their hardships to enrich themselves. Trump is either a) delusional and believes his bullshit or b) doesn't believe much of anything but has created a niche for himself that he uses as a vehicle to power.


I tend to believe Trump believes most of his nonsense but on some level he ought to know when it is crazy.
i mean, i agree with you
but i was speaking to the trump fans, trying to understand what would need to be done on election night to get them to believe the results if they turn out poorly for them
it really feels like there's absolutely nothing that could be done, that they're just gonna say it's bad no matter what if kamala wins
 

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i mean, i agree with you
but i was speaking to the trump fans, trying to understand what would need to be done on election night to get them to believe the results if they turn out poorly for them
it really feels like there's absolutely nothing that could be done, that they're just gonna say it's bad no matter what if kamala wins
Most Trump voters would accept the result, since we can't forget that roughly half of the electorate are going to vote Republican, and most of those will not be Trump diehards. But speaking as someone who was in that bubble in 2020, it is very easy to go along with the crowd and not think critically. There is a lot of social pressure to go along with the crowd, so to answer the question, most Trump loyalists will go along with whatever Trump wants. I distinctly remember when DeSantis was beloved and looked at as a Trump successor. As soon as he did well in 2022 and culminating with his 2024 run, the switch flipped and all those people hated him lol. It's whatever Trump wants.
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There's nothing that would convince them that Trump fairly lost if he loses 2024. Most of them still don't believe he lost 2020 despite overwhelming evidence. It's what one would call Trump Derangement Syndrome.
I like the term Trump Enslavement Syndrome.
 
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Trump being a winner is his brand. We have countless examples of him just lying or making shit up. He once opined he could shoot someone and not lose voters. He is aware of his personality cult and he and the inner circle cynically exploit these people and their hardships to enrich themselves. Trump is either a) delusional and believes his bullshit or b) doesn't believe much of anything but has created a niche for himself that he uses as a vehicle to power.


I tend to believe Trump believes most of his nonsense but on some level he ought to know when it is crazy.

His brand is to be a lying cheating traitor piece of scum with a cult that'll gladly chug the Kool aid after they watched the person in front of them in line collapse from it.

Here's a nice mash-up of Trump's claim of a 1929-style depression if he loses, because his "tariffs" will work.


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How is it a tax on the other country if the other country isn't paying it? It's like the stupid "Mexico will pay for the wall" thing but on a much larger and more horrific scale...
 
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With how much america is reliant on foreign goods, this is just going to cause the cost of living to shoot through the roof. ironic since he has been bashing biden over something he plans on making 50x worse than he or harris could possibly do with these insane tariffs on foreign goods.
 

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how do trump fans not see that if he wins, his scrutiny worked, if he loses, it failed
like, there is no possibility that trump can lose fairly, it can only be a PLOT, a TRICK
like, imagine if it actually went down fairly, trump just straight lost
how would that be proven to any of you, how would that meaningfully be communicated
we all saw the court cases in 2020, man's team had nothing, they just talked big when he couldn't be done for perjury
man has never won the popular vote, not even against hillary
how do we even reach you
As others have said, there's zero way to reach them at this point. For them to admit that they've been following a proven criminal would be too much for their pride. So instead, they just latch onto reasons that could explain otherwise.

I've already said that if Trump keeled over and died of natural causes tomorrow, they'd never believe it was natural. You'd have people saying it was poison, even after the autopsy came in saying it was a heart attack. They'd say the doctors were in on the cover-up. You'd have people saying it was faked so that Trump could live in another country away from the "witch hunts". You'd have people saying it was 4-D chess, and that he's still in the race.

The only way for these people to become somewhat normal is to have Trump give up on politics entirely. They'll lose their main anchor to the crazy lies, and hopefully they'd find some other GOP dingus to attach to.
 

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Gotta share this for hilarity: the 10 worst things about Trump's presidency.

I have to admit I had suppressed a couple of those...
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Supposedly Ryan Routh didn't have line of sight or even take a shot at Trump. So one can't say it was an assassination attempt.

It was a concept of an assassination attempt.
Shouldn't Republicans rush to defend this guy's constitutional right to take his assault rifle out for a walk? I mean... He's a white republican, so surely he's on their team. :P

Besides... He could've attempted to kill anyone at Mar a lago. Trump's not even the most likely person, as he's on the campaign trail most of the time nowadays.

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Trump's on campaign trail most of the time, right?
 
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Gotta share this for hilarity: the 10 worst things about Trump's presidency.

I have to admit I had suppressed a couple of those...

Great video. I watched the whole thing. Nice stroll down memory lane. I like how he said "Trump ALLEGEDLY stole classified documents".

It's beyond alleging that he stole them at this point. There are first hand witnesses saying he wanted to keep them. He shuffled them around to try and keep them. He lied multiple times about having them. He is on tape saying that he had them and that they're highly classified. It's just a fact at this point that he stole them.
 
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Great video. I watched the whole thing. Nice stroll down memory lane. I like how he said "Trump ALLEGEDLY stole classified documents".

It's beyond alleging that he stole them at this point. There are first hand witnesses saying he wanted to keep them. He shuffled them around to try and keep them. He lied multiple times about having them. He is on tape saying that he had them and that they're highly classified. It's just a fact at this point that he stole them.

Honestly as bad as that is, him strong arming election officals demanding they find extra votes for him then inciting his stupid supporters to storm capitol hill is far worse than that. If they want to put him where he belongs, persecute over that one, not the documents.

Him being a lowlife is nothing new, even when you take away the sexual assault, beauty pageants and polluting the environment he is still a lowlife. Look no further than when he bought Mar-A-Lago in the eighties. The previous owners wanted no less 20 million for it. He lowballed them with an offer of 15. When they rejected it, he then bought the land around the KFC across the road from it and directly across from the beach then threatened the Mar-A-Lago owners that if they didnt accept his now $7 million dollar offer he was going to build a high rise apartment complex directly across from them to block out any ocean views the resort had, crashing the price far below his paltry offer of $7 million. They accepted and the rest was history
 
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Honestly as bad as that is, him strong arming election officals demanding they find extra votes for him then inciting his stupid supporters to storm capitol hill is far worse than that. If they want to put him where he belongs, persecute over that one, not the documents.
As easy as it is to say that they need to focus on a single illegal activity, but it really shouldn't matter.

If Jan 6th never happened, then you'd more than likely be saying he needs to pay the price for the documents case. If Jan 6th never happened AND the documents were never stolen, you may be saying that he needs to pay the price for the Stormy Daniels case.

Just because some of his illegal activities seem smaller in comparison to other illegal activities, it shouldn't matter in the eyes of the law. He needs to be charged for each of them.

But yes, Jan 6th > Documents > Stormy >= Sexual Assault
 

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There's nothing that would convince them that Trump fairly lost if he loses 2024. Most of them still don't believe he lost 2020 despite overwhelming evidence. It's what one would call Trump Derangement Syndrome.
“Evidence” doesn’t matter to Trump cultists. They don’t have evidence of election fraud and still believe that happened. So why would they believe the evidence of him losing?
 

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Kamala is such a weak candidate that even the Teamsters Union, which has always endorsed a Democrat, couldn’t do it this time because the majority supports Trump. Instead, they chose to endorse no one, lol.


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