Question Tinfoil don't let me use Joycon on HB menu

Discussion in 'Switch - Emulation, Homebrew & Software Projects' started by Squallseph, Nov 20, 2019.

  1. Squallseph
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    Squallseph Newbie

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    Hi to everyone, i have a problem, i have installed the latest version of Tinfoil, but after installation, if i lunch Edizon or Checkpoint, the Joycon don't work , there is a solution, i run the latetest Atmosphere on my Switch, thanks a lot
     
  2. Draxzelex

    Draxzelex GBAtemp Legend

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    Uninstall tinfoil
     
  3. swutch

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    I know this problem, if i have a "pro controller" connected, i can't use Joycons in HB menu.
    If I disconnect the "Pro Controller", it will work again.

    but that's independent of tinfoil.
     
    Last edited by swutch, Nov 21, 2019
  4. Shirohebi

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    For a real answer...

    The latest version of Atmosphere includes a mitm for the HID module as a temporary work around for changes in 9.0+. The Atmosphere patches included in the Tinfoil zip don't include this mitm patch which prevents older homebrew from working with the joycons once it's installed.

    Simple solution, don't use the Atmosphere patches in the Tinfoil ZIP, only copy over the /switch/ folder contents. If you don't have sigpatches and need them I would suggest ITotalJustice's sigpatch updater since it will install patches compatible with both Hikate and fusee-primary.

    Though, now that you've copied over your Atmosphere you'll need to remove the bad patches somehow, either restore a backup, or perhaps copy the files from a fresh Atmosphere ZIP.
     
  5. blawar

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    Solution is not to use old abandoned homebrew, that is not going to work in the future anyway. The issue is not Tinfoil, it is using old abandoned software.

    I recompiled edizon awhile ago for 9.0, which you can get from the graveyard of abandoned software: https://github.com/blawar/graveyard

    Checkpoint I think already did update, you just may need to download the latest version.

    Edizon is abandoned, just switch to checkpoint.
     
  6. Shirohebi

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    @blawar, while I understand your point of view as a developer, from a end user perspective it's kind of a bad user experience (hence why the hid mitm was included in Atmos to begin with) and definitely makes tinfoil look like the culprit. I see OP's question all the time on multiple Discords and I've seen people say what I said, and people say what you said, but when things as simple as even the homebrew app store itself doesn't work, it's hard to tell people to just not use those apps.

    Just curious, what's the reasoning behind the Atmos patches included with tinfoil NOT including the hid mitm?
     
  7. blawar

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    Other developers told scires not to do it too. Users are generally too short sighted about these things. Note how the fix doesnt apply to any of my apps because I updated all of them. In the long run, that fix hurts the scene.

    However since scires started this mess, TX had to copy them so they didnt lack a feature. Unfortunately I do not see TX ever removing it which is why I said scires hurt the scene with that fix and why it was a bad idea. Shit hacks like that have a way of lingering seemingly forever once implemented, even if they are immediately deprecated.
     
  8. Shirohebi

    Shirohebi Newbie

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    Cool, I was just wondering if it was a technical limitation vs a philosophical one.

    As a software engineer by trade, I get that 100% lol.
     
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