1. Seliph

    Seliph Resident Anarcho-Socialist aka mega loser
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    We are going after Democrats! Obviously Democrats are the enemy, so are Conservatives. Our enemy is Capitalism and hierarchy. Democrats are a part of that hierarchy.

    Do your research, ya dummy.
     
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    Yeah, ok, if you're involved in or support this bowel "movement" going on with these over privileged white kids, maybe you should do research into what's going on and see the hypocrisy of these idiots. The people of chaz started to create everything they were supposedly "against" such as borders, armed policing, capitalism, segregation, racism, etc.... Biggest bunch of hypocritical losers I've ever witnessed.
     
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    If the cops are there to kill people it looks like this community policing is far more effective than conventional policing.
     
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    Hate to say this, but the United States is not capitalist. Hasn't been for a very long time.
     
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    Oligarchy is always the end result/ultimate goal of capitalism, so much so that the term "oligarchy" is interchangeable with "late-stage capitalism."
     
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    So if the end of capitalism is tyranny, what does that say about capitalism?
     
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    Nothing good, certainly. The US was meant to be a delicate balance of several different governmental and economic philosophies. For about fifty or sixty years after FDR we had at least some SocDem policies in place to keep the worst tendencies of capitalism in check, but that all went out the window with the "greed is good" Reagan era. Since then this country's only unified goal has been concentrating the maximum amount of wealth possible into the hands of the smallest number of people possible.
     
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    Hasn't CHAZ/CHOP been dismantled by now? I know Jay Incel won't do anything about it, he's just letting the dumpster fire burn.
     
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    Xzi actually believes this.
     
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    This is a global reality, friend.
    At least in the states your odds of obtaining an abundance of wealth are much, much better. Better than we have ever known.
    1% odds of becoming a billionaire with excess? Best odds in human history.
    Previously unachievable if you were not born into it, I would argue.
    Also, you are treating wealth as static; (I gain 5 dollars, someone else loses 5 dollars). Not the way it works, rather our system of wealth is dynamic, meaning you can create or generate wealth by creating a market.
     
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    I literally prefaced it with "from what I've read." Information on this incident is extremely scarce, and the confusion surrounding it is unlikely to be cleared up any time soon. As Seliph already pointed out, violence has escalated quite a bit since the city decided to take down certain barricades and allow dissenters to drive through the areas still occupied by protesters. This type of half-assed, passive-aggressive "solution" clearly isn't benefiting anybody.
     
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    Yeah that's not where I was going with my statement. Free markets are inherently free and loosely regulated by a minarchist government. By saying that ending free market capitalism requires a totalitarian government, you admit that socialism or communism is not achievable without an all-powerful state to oversee it.
     
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    "Anarcho-capitalism" is both a contradiction and a farce. You cannot have capitalism without systems in place to enforce and propagate class divisions.

    When did I say that? I believe I stated the exact opposite, that unrestricted "free market capitalism" will always LEAD to totalitarian rule eventually, regardless of whether the rulers are a part of government or part of corporations acting as the de facto government. Not that it requires totalitarianism to START with.

    Socialism simply grants more power to the productive working class rather than the managers/landlords of the world, and Social Democrats only want more of our tax dollars going to programs which benefit a larger swath of poor/working class Americans. I won't waste my time debating the merits and demerits of Communism, though I will say that despite America's many attempts to interfere with the country over the years, Cuba still seems a very appealing place to live in the modern day.
     
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    funny trump wonn't talk about anything but now we know he IS undeniable fact a raciest since he tweeted thos two words associated with raciat anyways i stay away from the news of all sorts and just enjoy watching the dumpster fire called the USA burn
     
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    Yeah, I'll write some ridiculous nonsense on a sheet of toilet paper so I can qualify everything I say with "from what I've read" as well.

    Not even your lunatic left-wing news sources like The Guardian are attempting to spew this ludicrous narrative that the kids in the Jeep were Neo-Nazi KKK Terrorists attempting to assault the peaceful CHAZ idiots.
     
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    Nor did I say anything even remotely to that same tune. A person wielding and firing a gun is a threat regardless of their political affiliation, and it's not like anybody under fire is going to take the time to check on that anyway.

    I'll repeat myself again: information on the incident is extremely scarce right now, and thus you're making just as many assumptions as I have, if not more. No news publication, left, right, center, or other, has anything resembling a detailed article about it. All we have to go on at the moment are second and third-hand accounts.
     
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    Gamergate really did a fucking number on some of our brains, huh
     
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    Silly assertion to use the word 'always' in this statement. A prophet would not be so bold.

    Totalitarian rule by whom, exactly? Business owners? Board members? Investors? Shareholders?

    Usually, individuals who operate companies become wealthy/successful because the consumer has elected their product/service as important. meaning the consumer has granted them wealth for their service. This is in contrast to a true totalitarian regime, who have achieved their power by exploiting the masses.

    Furthermore, wealth in capitalism is always changing hands. The power is distributed according to the consumers will. (This relationship is often fractured by government, in the establishment of Monopolies or Trusts that are not a consequence of capitalism). Again, true totalitarian regimes have power that rarely changes hands.
     
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    Listen, that six-year-old freely entered an agreement with that shoelace factory manager!

    Who are we to strip him of his economic choices?!
     
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    with any luck all the police and all the BLM and anitfa will kill each other off down to the last one of them so the rest of can live in peace
    i HATE BOTH groups and i wish they would all die they are all low IQ violent thugs and the world would be much better off without BOTH sides
     
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