1. Hanafuda

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    Been a whole lotta shootings in the ol' CHAZ/CHOP for a mostly peaceful block party. Last night the self-appointed CHOP COPS shot and killed a 16 year old and put a 14 year old on life support. And then they tampered with the crime scene. So far, no rioting ANTIFA or BLM. I thought this was the kind of thing they were protesting??? Probably nothing left in "the zone" worth looting.

    What a fucking joke.

    https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/te...eattles-chop-zone/GGWI2CMRHFFKNDVETXQ7SGD4KQ/
     
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    From what I've read, the Jeep was stolen and the people in it were drive-by shooting at protesters/CHOP area residents. Not exactly surprising that they were fired on in response, and certainly the type of killing that would've been deemed "justified" if it were the police in that scenario instead. Not to say that it's something I approve of personally, but these are important details that you chose to omit.
     
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    You have no evidence for that besides people with an interest in covering their crime and defending their side. And a crime scene that was tainted before real police arrived. Show me some video of the 16 and 14 year old drive-by shooting. They didn't deserve to die. Those self-appointed CHOP Security Officers could've found a way to end it without killing them. They didn't have to kill them. This was murder.

    And the most hilarious thing is you're actually justifying the CHOP COPS shooting down some children. It's ok when they do it. Ok, ok.
     
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    What Xzi said. Ever since the fire department put up barriers in the CHOP that open up a road that goes straight through it, there have been drive-by attacks from cars, no one died before these barriers were put up by the city. The responsibility is on the city of Seattle for putting up the barriers, not the CHOP.

    Proud Boys and other hate group members have been spotted within the CHOP, I know and have spoken to people active within the CHOP who have seen this.

    Yes, there have been fights that have broken out within the CHOP, but they are quickly handled. These murders are different and they are the result of hate groups and they are the result of the city building the barricades.

    We don't know who fired the shots yet or why there were even shots in the first place, so it's disingenuous on your part to outright blame the CHOP, especially because the people were shot NEAR the CHOP, not within it.

    This video has footage straight from the CHOP and you can watch it to get a better picture of what it's like in there, I doubt you'll watch it because you don't seem to have enough patience to even read the whole article or think critically about it before you posted about it, but I'm just putting this out there anyways.
     
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    Firing back on an active shooter is legally protected as self-defense in most states, I have no idea how you can possibly confuse that type of scenario with out-and-out murder of an unarmed citizen as was the case with George Floyd and Elijah McClain.

    Anybody who picks up a gun and fires with the intent to kill is making an adult decision, a deranged one, but an adult decision nonetheless. Your attempt to classify them as "children" for the sake of pushing a pathetically transparent political agenda isn't gonna fly.

    Lastly, I've said it before, but shootings happen nearly every day in America. There's no way for police to respond fast enough to stop them, they usually just end up contributing their own shootings to the statistics instead.
     
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    That's liberal values for you. As everyone says, "if not for double standards, Democrats wouldn't have any standards at all."
     
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    Liberals don't (typically) own guns, leftists do. As usual you can't tell your ass from a hole in the ground.
     
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    95% of the people within the CHOP aren't liberals. They're mostly anarchists and other leftists, the only libs within the CHOP usually just visit and look around or act like it's some sort of block party, which it isn't. Do your research, we hate liberals just as much as you do.
     
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    Potato/potatoe.
    Liberals, leftist, anarchist, antifa(see hypocrite), BLM, and Democrat in 2020 - all the same just using a different definition.
     
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    You're just ignoring that you have no official statement that the kids were shooting, from the press or government. Just from people who know they dun fucked up and want to stay out of some deep shit. They fucked with the crime scene, not sure how but it's going to make it unlikely their version of events can ever be confirmed or denied. That kills their credibility as far as I'm concerned.


    So these children were Proud Boys members, or members of some other 'hate group?'


    CHOP Armed Security shot them. That appears to be one of the few confirmed facts about this story.
     
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    Liberals aren't leftists you dummy, Antifa has nothing to do with liberals you dummy.

    Democrats suck, that's common knowledge. We're socialists, Democrats and Liberals are capitalists, there's a big difference there. Again, do your research, you dummy.
     
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    Well no shit, we aren't likely to ever get one. The police/pro-police politicians and the corporations which fund them want to be able to spin this to their benefit, which means keeping things vague.

    Just because neocons and nazis all bow to the same masters now doesn't mean the left is equally monolithic.
     
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    They could have been Proud Boys, who knows. Again, we know nothing about the shooting, you're making judgments before any real evidence is found. One of the people injured was transported out of the area to a hospital by people from the CHOP, if that's what you call tampering then okay but again we simply don't know enough right now.

    The people in the car could have been shot by people from the CHOP, I'm not saying that isn't a possibility but you need to consider these facts:
    • The people who shot the van could have been Proud Boys, like I said, Proud Boys were spotted within the CHOP.
    • This shooting might not have even happened if the city of Seattle hadn't set up the barriers in the CHOP.
    • The shooting occurred outside of the CHOP.
     
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    If those kids in the Jeep were shooting firearms from the vehicle, it'll be known. There'll be residue on their hands.

    If the kids in the Jeep weren't shooting, that'll be known too.

    If the kids in the Jeep were shooting, then the circumstances will need to be investigated to determine whether the CHOP security were justified in returning fire.

    If the kids in the Jeep weren't shooting, it won't matter.

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    Wait, you're the one who said these murders (actually only one so far, the 14 year old isn't dead) are the fault of hate groups and the city. You very specifically implied the 14 and 16 year old kids might be in the Proud Boys or some other hate group. And I'm making premature judgments?

    I just think it's rather ironic that we've got children getting shot by the "police" of CHOP. You say they were Proud Boys? I say they were just turning their lives around.
     
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    You've got far more faith and trust in the law enforcement institutions handling this case than I. They already tweeted some biased shit before even the most basic facts about the case were verified.
     
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    Anarchist, leftist, BLM, fascist, whatever you feel you are this week doesn't matter since I can't even figure out your whole "gender" situation. What is it up to now? 80?

    Regardless, doesn't matter since the whole Chaz/chop/overgrown, spoiled child daycare was a mistake that the liberal mayor of Seattle should have never allowed to happen.
    Thanks to the Dems supporting lawlessness, I am assured that my liberal tears cup will runneth over this fall.
     
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    Copy and pasting this from my previous post.

    The people in the car could have been shot by people from the CHOP, I'm not saying that isn't a possibility but you need to consider these facts:
    • The people who shot the van could have been Proud Boys, like I said, Proud Boys were spotted within the CHOP.
    • This shooting might not have even happened if the city of Seattle hadn't set up the barriers in the CHOP.
    • The shooting occurred outside of the CHOP.
    I'm not making a definitive judgment on anything, because that's stupid. I'm just presenting you with possibilities, and based on the existing facts and lack of evidence, it doesn't seem very plausible that people from the CHOP would just decide to shoot some kids outside of the CHOP for no apparent reason.

    The kids could be Proud Boys, or they could have been shot by Proud Boys, or they could have been random people or they could have been shot at by random people, or they could have been shot by people from the CHOP. One of the kids shot was literally carried away by people from the CHOP, their life was saved by people from the CHOP.

    When you decide to blindly blame it on the CHOP just because the shooting occurred near the CHOP, you're making a very foolish and premature judgment.

    The liberal mayor is trying to undermine the CHOP, that's why she opened up a road in the CHOP that allows people to travel straight through it and attack people within the CHOP. She totally sucks, ask anyone within the CHOP and they will tell you that we dislike her just as much as you do, but you're too dense to realize that.
     
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    Pretty sure there are more than 80 designations under the label "alt-right," but you've gotta be starting to run out of synonyms for "nazi" by now. Go back to cuddling your Robert E. Lee body pillow, nobody asked for a pre-teen edgelord's opinion on this matter or any other.
     
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    Some more info:

    If you look at this twitter account, you'll find more info related to the shooting. I encourage you to check it out.
     
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    If you "people" were smart, you'd actually go after your true enemies which are the Democrats in charge that are using you for their political/financial benefits instead of using a man's death to burn down black communities/businesses, kill black folks, and take over a couple of blocks to hurt more innocent people while killing more black people. I think the mayor's mansion would be a nice new settlement for you "unfortunate saps".

    You know it's a Trump body pillow. Get it right.

    Nope, we only have two labels - alpha male and alpha female.
     
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