Hardware thinking of getting N3DS and a flash cart

[Davidosky99]

you guys also didnt stop to think that A9LH can also cost money if you are on latest firmware because you need to buy cubix ninja for about $25 or OOT for like $20 and then a power saves for about another $25 just to install this hack

... but if you're going to buy a brand new 3ds it will come with a version inferior of 10.5 which is downgradable

 

[[^Blark^]]

you guys also didnt stop to think that A9LH can also cost money if you are on latest firmware because you need to buy cubix ninja for about $25 or OOT for like $20 and then a power saves for about another $25 just to install this hack

cubic ninja at 20$ where dey at doe? I've seen 100$+ xD id be all over it at 20$...you can use sky as an entry point using a cubic ninja or OOT rom it's what I do.

 

[kofman13]

So i took most of yesterday evening pouring over tutorials and getting a sense of if it is something i would want to get into and honestly the whole A9LH and cfw thing seems like too much for me to deal with, so i am leaning towards getting a sky3ds+, besides not being able to play CIA (is there a converter), what else do i need to watch out for when using sky3ds? how do i use "private header" to play online safely?

 

[[^Blark^]]

So i took most of yesterday evening pouring over tutorials and getting a sense of if it is something i would want to get into and honestly the whole A9LH and cfw thing seems like too much for me to deal with, so i am leaning towards getting a sky3ds+, besides not being able to play CIA (is there a converter), what else do i need to watch out for when using sky3ds? how do i use "private header" to play online safely?

sadly there is no converter.

I would just worry about not playing online without private headers and hopefully nintendo doesn't block it. I have the blue button and it's still not blocked I thinks it's been a little over a year since I've had mine.

side note: if you bought the sky and later on down the road wanted to try cfw and things haven't changed with downgrading (as in the newest firm in the future would still be compatibile) you would always be able to do so as long as OOT/Cubic ninja supports entry points.

that's kind of the position I'm in. I have 2 3ds one old one NEW both XL-LL's. News on 9.2 olds on 9.9

I just keep them within downgrade range and play the games I want with sky and if I ever wanted too take control of the entire system and be able to use .cia files I still have that option.

Edit: private headers are ripped from any 3DS game you have lying around and if you cant do it yourself a member of the community may lend a hand it requires a little HEX editing. and a gateway entry point to dump the game (unless things have changed I use old methods for certain things I'm living in the past lol there might be new ways)

and from what I read headers are region free if you want to say that.
(you can use USA header on JAP or EU rom and vice versa)

 

[kofman13]

sadly there is no converter.

I would just worry about not playing online without private headers and hopefully nintendo doesn't block it. I have the blue button and it's still not blocked I thinks it's been a little over a year since I've had mine.

side note: if you bought the sky and later on down the road wanted to try cfw and things haven't changed with downgrading (as in the newest firm in the future would still be compatibile) you would always be able to do so as long as OOT/Cubic ninja supports entry points.

that's kind of the position I'm in. I have 2 3ds one old one NEW both XL-LL's. News on 9.2 olds on 9.9

I just keep them within downgrade range and play the games I want with sky and if I ever wanted too take control of the entire system and be able to use .cia files I still have that option.

Edit: private headers are ripped from any 3DS game you have lying around and if you cant do it yourself a member of the community may lend a hand it requires a little HEX editing. and a gateway entry point to dump the game (unless things have changed I use old methods for certain things I'm living in the past lol there might be new ways)

and from what I read headers are region free if you want to say that.
(you can use USA header on JAP or EU rom and vice versa)

ok so this is what i think i might do, lemme know if im wrong or its bad idea lol.
Get a sky3ds+, in terms of rom releases do all the same games that come out as CIA also come out as 3DS? would i be missing out on playing new latest games by only playing .3DS?
also in terms of private header and getting banned. how does that actually happen? lets say i try to play a game online for instance Pokemon Y, they would detect and ban my console from nintendo network? or just that game?
What if i play it safe and and use Sky3DS only for games i wont play online, and when i want to play a game online i would just buy the legit cart? or does banning happen just by using sky3ds and being on wifi network? (not actually playing a game online", if so, would i just protect myself by disconnecting from wifi before playing a game with sky3ds?

 

[Luanking]

Normally they would ban your whole system!

If you want so save some money you can also think about getting the Sky3DS blue card,it's the same like the Plus version,but with no "AP" support.

 

[kofman13]

Normally they would ban your whole system!

If you want so save some money you can also think about getting the Sky3DS blue card,it's the same like the Plus version,but with no "AP" support.

well without "AP" support i cant play newer games like xenoblade right
what im trying to understand is what you have to do to actually get banned. is it simply using sky3ds while being connected to wifi? or actually running a rom and using an online feature within the game like multiplayer or something?
What I could do is turn off wifi when i use sky3ds and turn it back on when i am playing a legit physical cartridge. so basically i would be offline while using sky3ds so nintendo wouldnt detect. that would be the safe option right?

 

[Davidosky99]

DONT GET SKY3DS IT'S GARBAGE

 

[kofman13]

DONT GET SKY3DS IT'S GARBAGE

Dude I'm definitely not gonna sit and deal with downgrading and installing it takes hours and way too complicated so now I'm just trying to ask questions regarding sky3ds

 

[Davidosky99]

Dude I'm definitely not gonna sit and deal with downgrading and installing it takes hours and way too complicated so now I'm just trying to ask questions regarding sky3ds

okay, just a friend advice. you'd be waaaay better with downgrade but if you want to be an imbecile and throw away your money to some random guys on the internet supporting piracy when you could get it for free and experience the thrill of this process... but it's your choice

 

[Uwabami]

Dude I'm definitely not gonna sit and deal with downgrading and installing it takes hours and way too complicated so now I'm just trying to ask questions regarding sky3ds

It is time consuming, but in the end you'll switch to A9LH. We all did. Sky3DS is convenient at first, but then you'll notice all the fun things the cool kids can do with their A9LH and you can't. Then you can't go online without manually fixing the header of every game you wan't to play online (and good luck having enough private headers), IF you find your game of choice. Nintendo will probably block Sky3DS in the future and it will probably find a way to prevent downgrading past 10.7, too. They fucked up the first time, but they'll get it right eventually.

So in short:
A9LH - Painful to set up, real easy afterwards, can do everything right after booting. Games are installed on the home menu. Safe to keep current firmware.
Sky3DS - Easy to set up, painful to maintain. Can't run every game, as some are eShop-only. No homebrew. Painful game-switching. Upgrading firmware is always a risk.

Edit:
Totally forgot: getting banned because you forgot to fix the header by mistake or you didn't do it correctly - only on Sky3DS.

 

[Luanking]

But can you play ONLINE with A9LH?

@kofman13 With "Sky3DS blue" you can play "Xenoblade Chronicles 3D" and newer games

 

[Uwabami]

But can you play ONLINE with A9LH?

@kofman13 With "Sky3DS blue" you can play "Xenoblade Chronicles 3D" and newer games

Of course you can. I do it all the time.

 

[Luanking]

You can download each game you want and play online with it? WTF? Really? :o

 

[Uwabami]

You can download each game you want and play online with it? WTF? Really? :o

Are you kidding me? That's what everyone has been saying in this thread and it's always mentioned as being better than Sky3DS. CIAs don't have headers. You'll only be banned if you CHEAT or use MODs.

 

[Kioku]

Coming from someone who still uses his $90 Blue Button card for CUBIC NINJA? DOWNGRADE YOUR SYSTEM. Those few hours are well worth it in the long run. Sky IS NOT.

 

[Hayleia]

Are you kidding me? That's what everyone has been saying in this thread and it's always mentioned as being better than Sky3DS. CIAs don't have headers. You'll only be banned if you CHEAT or use MODs.

Why do you think there are still so many people using a Sky3DS without downgrading ? Because they have no idea how better the alternatives are, that's all. They think they have tons of disadvantages even though nope.
Then of course, I understand someone can use a Sky in combination with a9lh (for easy testing and whatever) or someone may like better the drag-and-drop-with-no-hacks aspect, but really, most of them are just people who have no idea what they're doing and what they could do. Just search for "Sky3DS" topics in the search bar and you'll see how many of them learn stuff that everyone thought obvious for everyone.

 

[kofman13]

ok guys i really see A9LH is better i know i know, i just have to sit down and go through tutorial and see if i can do it. I guess I will get a refurbished N3DS from gamestop this weekend (maybe will have older firmware) and attempt after studying the guide

 

[pbanj]

Why do you think there are still so many people using a Sky3DS without downgrading ? Because they have no idea how better the alternatives are, that's all. They think they have tons of disadvantages even though nope.
Then of course, I understand someone can use a Sky in combination with a9lh (for easy testing and whatever) or someone may like better the drag-and-drop-with-no-hacks aspect, but really, most of them are just people who have no idea what they're doing and what they could do. Just search for "Sky3DS" topics in the search bar and you'll see how many of them learn stuff that everyone thought obvious for everyone.

I still use my sky from time to time. It makes a great way to have all the exploit games also. Would I buy a plus? Nope. But if I didn't I would buy one before I bought cubic ninja as I would rather support any than the asshat resellers. If you have more than one system a sky is a easy way to use the games on both.

 

[Uwabami]

ok guys i really see A9LH is better i know i know, i just have to sit down and go through tutorial and see if i can do it. I guess I will get a refurbished N3DS from gamestop this weekend (maybe will have older firmware) and attempt after studying the guide

Just remember, take your time, don't take shortcuts, follow the guide to the letter. Some people who thought they were smart and skipped steps fucked up and got stuck in 2.1 or bricked.