Things are getting worse - Mexico and Trump.

[el_gonz87]

I don't know how good for the world it has been. At least it has provided a long era of... something near to peace, specially compared to the past.
Now, for itself sure it has been quite good, it set itself as the leader of the world due to the dependency it created and allowed it to manipulate international politics as they wished, and this is one of the things I see the USA losing and some other power taking advantage of (replacing the USA in this position).

There is 3 countries that basically do whatever they want in the world (and it's not always diplomatic): USA, Russia, and China

All of them have some poor diplomatic moments: Iraq, Crimea, and South China Sea

I don't see any of these wanting to change the status quo. Especially since we are already starting on a better relationship with Russia.

 

[Xiphiidae]

I don't know how good for the world it has been. At least it has provided a long era of... something near to peace, specially compared to the past.

Constant war and regime changes, heightening tensions with China, Russia and other nations, terrorism like we've never seen it before... this is peace?

Now, for itself sure it has been quite good, it set itself as the leader of the world due to the dependency it created and allowed it to manipulate international politics as they wished, and this is one of the things I see the USA losing and some other power taking advantage of (replacing the USA in this position).

That's a very particular claim, which I believe needs to be substantiated. You've provided no real evidence for why the USA would lose its position just because they'll decrease free trade and start fewer wars.

Are you saying that dependency on the US and the US' "manipulation" are good things? What's your actual argument here?

 

[sarkwalvein]

Constant war, regime changes, heightening tensions with China, Russia and other nations, terrorism like we've never seen it before... this is peace?


That's a very particular claim, which I believe needs to be substantiated. You've provided no real evidence for why the USA would lose its position just because they'll decrease free trade and start fewer wars.

Yes, that is what I mean by something near to peace compared to the past.
Very localized small wars and conflicts and a state of ongoing, never ending cold-war.
Compare that to the real wars and massacre/extermination of peoples of the last two centuries, or even before, it's not something new.

 

[Xiphiidae]

Compare that to the real wars and massacre/extermination of peoples of the last two centuries, or even before, it's not something new.

In case you haven't noticed, this is still going on now.

 

[el_gonz87]

Yes, that is what I mean by something near to peace compared to the past.
Very localized small wars and conflicts and a state of ongoing, never ending cold-war.
Compare that to the real wars and massacre/extermination of peoples of the last two centuries, or even before, it's not something new.

You obviously don't follow the middle east....

 

[sarkwalvein]

In case you haven't noticed, this is still going on now.

Of course, only in a limited scale compared to the past.
That will never cease, it seems to be human nature, the best that can happen is limiting its scale by reasoning, talking and compromise.

You obviously don't follow the middle east....

Well, the middle east is a hell like always, but I haven't seen things like massive exterminations of Armenians for a long time, the scale of today wars is quite smaller.

 

[Xiphiidae]

Of course, only in a limited scale compared to the past.

I'd beg to differ. Approximately 500,000 Iraqis died as a result of the Iraq War, that doesn't seem too 'limited' to me, considering it was just one one conflict. It may not be close to WWII, but dismissing such suffering and loss of life seems pretty damn callous.

That will never cease, it seems to be human nature, the best that can happen is limiting its scale by reasoning, talking and compromise.

Which is precisely why the warmongering desires of the US establishment need to be opposed.

 

[el_gonz87]

Of course, only in a limited scale compared to the past.
That will never cease, it seems to be human nature, the best that can happen is limiting its scale by reasoning, talking and compromise.

Well, the middle east is a hell like always, but I haven't seen things like massive exterminations of Armenians for a long time, the scale of today wars is quite smaller.

I mean you are right there hasn't been a massive war like WW2.

But I don't think Trump is leading us there. He is got ties to Russia and I think you will probably see us work more with them in the future. I think the UK will be a new focus now that they have a right wing govt, also who knows France may elect a nationalist government.

 

[sarkwalvein]

I hope not, but I can see Russia and/or China to take serious advantage of this situation and shift the USA away from its leading position and sphere of influence and power.
And I kind of love the USA there where it is, it may be a love/hate relationship, but sure there is more love than hate, if I could choose I will prefer the USA to still be the world's highly political/economical influence, instead of the other two.

 

[Clydefrosch]

I suggest you take note of what he's actually been able to do so far. Unlike most Presidents, Trump is actually delivering on many of his promises.

Feel free to disagree with what he's doing and what he wants to do (I don't agree agree with everything that his administration stands for), but labelling him as "incompetent" is ignorant.

he's decreeing a lot of things (even though with congress under rep control, there's really little reason to do so), but a decree is not yet delivering on a promise.
just because you decree a wall, doesn't mean the wall will magically appear. you still need people who build it and money to pay for it. since mexico isn't paying for it and he promised to lower taxes, he will eventuall reach a point where moneys gonna be tight. so then he'll have to scrap his wall or start taxing. and it shouldn't surprise you when it the little man being taxed.

and thats just one thing. the man promised so many things disagreeing with one another (better deals, but starting off by ruining years of work international work, thats gonna put him in a real good spot)
protecting women - forcing them to use dangerous methods of abortion
protecting the people - mucking up their fresh health insurance before presenting an actual concept to substitute it with.
working for the people - wasting hours on twitter
I'll do te job for free - i need multiple millions to protect my kid and wife cause they're not moving to the white house though
not abusing his power for his own gain - get the keystone thing going, ignoring concerns about poisoning ground water while owning stocks in those oil companies (granted, this one i just read a while ago and i'M not 100% sure howtrue it is. sounds reasonable though)

 

[el_gonz87]

he's decreeing a lot of things (even though with congress under rep control, there's really little reason to do so), but a decree is not yet delivering on a promise.
just because you decree a wall, doesn't mean the wall will magically appear. you still need people who build it and money to pay for it. since mexico isn't paying for it and he promised to lower taxes, he will eventuall reach a point where moneys gonna be tight. so then he'll have to scrap his wall or start taxing. and it shouldn't surprise you when it the little man being taxed.

and thats just one thing. the man promised so many things disagreeing with one another (better deals, but starting off by ruining years of work international work, thats gonna put him in a real good spot)
protecting women - forcing them to use dangerous methods of abortion
protecting the people - mucking up their fresh health insurance before presenting an actual concept to substitute it with.
working for the people - wasting hours on twitter
I'll do te job for free - i need multiple millions to protect my kid and wife cause they're not moving to the white house though
not abusing his power for his own gain - get the keystone thing going, ignoring concerns about poisoning ground water while owning stocks in those oil companies (granted, this one i just read a while ago and i'M not 100% sure howtrue it is. sounds reasonable though)

NAFTA is years of international work alright, it's work that needs thrown in the garbage.

Also, please provide a source for "forcing them to use dangerous methods of abortion", "mucking up their fresh health insurance before presenting an actual concept to substitute it with"?

 

[H1B1Esquire]

"mucking up their fresh health insurance before presenting an actual concept to substitute it with"?

Tronald Dump literally said, 'We won't do anything for two years and let it (healthcare) explode...'

 

[el_gonz87]

Tronald Dump literally said, 'We won't do anything for two years and let it (healthcare) explode...'

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/20/politics/trump-signs-executive-order-on-obamacare/

"Also, Trump and other Republican leaders have repeatedly said they want a "smooth transition" to a GOP plan so that millions of Americans will not suddenly lose coverage."

 

[H1B1Esquire]

When you throw a stone at a straving dog....

So, remember all the people of Dump Casino? All the people at that one place in Indiana he 'forgot about' when he said he'd save their job? That time he said, 'The wall will cost X million....and the number kept increasing?

That kind of doesn't look like a guy you can trust....like he'd see you starving, throw a rock at you, and expect you to come over to eat his half-eaten cheeseburger because he hates pickles.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/tr...-of-letting-obamacare-explode-to-punish-dems/

Your article is from last week; my article is from last night.

Seeing as it takes a week for him to flop like a dying fish.....I have to believe this guy is going to screw a lot of people, then say, 'Fuck you, I've got mine.'

 

[matthi321]

just download video games or buy them digitaly

 

[H1B1Esquire]

just download video games or buy them digitaly

Yeah, Gabe Newell....Make Steam great again 2017. Free hat.
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50%off three hats.

 

[kumikochan]

Jezus christ. Why are most Americans so full of themselves. America = most crime in the world, most murders in the world.l, most gun abuse in the world, one of the biggest countries billions in debt, a failing economy hence why most american companies are residing in china, europe and so forth. A country with leading numbers of homeless in the world. I can go on and on and still will most keep telling them fairy tales that the US is the best country in the world. If your country would be the best in economic value then the dollar would be worth more in valued compare to the euro.

 

[barronwaffles]

Jezus christ. Why are most Americans so full of themselves. America = most crime in the world, most murders in the world.l, most gun abuse in the world, one of the biggest countries billions in debt, a failing economy hence why most american companies are residing in china, europe and so forth. A country with leading numbers of homeless in the world. I can go on and on and still will most keep telling them fairy tales that the US is the best country in the world. If your country would be the best in economic value then the dollar would be worth more in value comparee to the euro.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Total-crimes-per-1000

Whoops.

 

[el_gonz87]

When you throw a stone at a straving dog....

So, remember all the people of Dump Casino? All the people at that one place in Indiana he 'forgot about' when he said he'd save their job? That time he said, 'The wall will cost X million....and the number kept increasing?

That kind of doesn't look like a guy you can trust....like he'd see you starving, throw a rock at you, and expect you to come over to eat his half-eaten cheeseburger because he hates pickles.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/tr...-of-letting-obamacare-explode-to-punish-dems/

Your article is from last week; my article is from last night.

Seeing as it takes a week for him to flop like a dying fish.....I have to believe this guy is going to screw a lot of people, then say, 'Fuck you, I've got mine.'

I guess we will have to wait and see, then judge at the end. Whatever he chooses, you are eating that cheeseburger too hehe.

I for one am glad Obamacare is gone and the sooner the better, tired of that 22% hike I'm paying.

 

[kumikochan]

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Total-crimes-per-1000

Whoops.

Bullshit