There's a way to unban a banned Nintendo Switch?

Discussion in 'Switch - Exploits, Custom Firmwares & Soft Mods' started by Makercreation, Jun 27, 2019.

  1. Makercreation
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    Hey guys!
    I've a banned Nintendo Switch, i want to know if there's a way to unban a banned Nintendo Switch ?
     
  2. MasteryodaX

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    Hello, no there is not.
     
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  3. leafeon34

    leafeon34 意地悪な男の人

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  4. MasteryodaX

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    An uncle maybe?
     
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  5. Idontknowwhattoputhere

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    You cannot unban a switch
     
  6. Bladexdsl

    Bladexdsl ZOMG my posts...it's over 9000!!!

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    yes there is a way...buy a new switch and make a new account your banned forever otherwise :creep:
     
  7. leafeon34

    leafeon34 意地悪な男の人

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    You might be able to install someone else’s console certificates. The error logs between the two consoles wont match so you’ll soon have two banned Switches. If I remember correctly, people have used IRC bots to harvest console certificates.
     
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  8. Idontknowwhattoputhere

    Idontknowwhattoputhere See i would put something here if i knew what to

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    You cant
    Each cert is specific to its console
     
  9. Thomhack

    Thomhack GBAtemp Regular

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    you can but need an unbanned cert and is it very fast to ban
     
  10. Sumandora

    Sumandora Im using Parental Controls. Change my Mind!

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    yep you can.
    actually there are many way to do it.
    but many dont work permanent.
    there is the Proxy and the injecting
    Proxy already got a POC
    and Injecting is far away because you need something to inject the PRODINFO (yes complete PRODINFO)
    this PRODINFO is Console Unique and Console locked.
    So next question when its console locked then which CFW should implement no PRODINFO Check?
    Atmosphere is against Piracy. ReiNX is just a copy from Atmosphere and SX OS nobody knows if they now copy or not and when then nope and if they dont then you have luck but nobody thinks they are as good as they must be in coding.
    so the Proxy. we already saw from RetroGamer74 that simple CERT Swapping is not all.
    and the 2. CERT he had is already banned. so..... we will have a long time with banned switches and complete collections of CERTS like the 3DS had is unlikely.
    Not even 1 CERT is public and these which are public got already abused by CDNSP and FreeShop users.
    so currently: no.
    but if you have a second switch mayb. but think about it. why should you unban a Switch which is mayb bannable for the 2. if you can just play normal on the 2. one.
    and if you get unbanned then you will get the same ban reason very soon. for example you wont remove the banning NSP u installed or your XCI will still be glitchy.
     
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  11. FAST6191

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    Do we actually have proof of concept for unbanning now? Last I looked it was still all theoretical, though enough that a few weekends of solid effort could probably have produced results.
     
  12. Idontknowwhattoputhere

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    No we don't
     
  13. FAST6191

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    So Thomhack and Sumandora are chatting utter bollocks? Because Sumandora's stuff at least seems in line with what we know of the security setups.
     
  14. Idontknowwhattoputhere

    Idontknowwhattoputhere See i would put something here if i knew what to

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    Nobody here will confirm sumandoras or thomhacks knowledge
    Cert generation/unbanning wont exist
     
  15. FAST6191

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    Do carry on. We have had plenty of discussion on ban circumvention... pretty much since consoles we cared about got online and could be banned and with PC stuff before that. Sometimes full blown guides are not going to happen but plain discussion of "it exists, you are going to need to go elsewhere to find out how though" has never stopped. I don't know what would have changed here to stop it from any form of discussion at all.

    Is there a technical reason cert replacement with a donor cert will not happen? Other than potentially having to emulate the hidden security section (which, owing to that nice exploit, we can peer into and have some kind of unfettered access to an oracle such that it could probably be done by someone of moderate skills) most of it seems in line with stuff we have done in the past.

    I don't doubt at this point that such things are horribly ineffective -- if nothing else that I have not seen a discussion or hint of a fairly complete understanding of Nintendo's counter hacker methods employed in their firmwares and TX are not shouting about stealth firmwares to come means the same reasons people got banned in the first place (plus whatever they have added since) are still in play.
     
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  16. Idontknowwhattoputhere

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    There was a user on the wareznx discord server that had some findings about certs
     
  17. scionae

    scionae *clicking circles*

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    To be honest, there WILL be a way. The Switch has high security but I don't think it is unbreakable. Give it a few more months maybe, we need more knowledge and more people willing to help. If I knew anything about console certs and advanced programming/engineering I would've helped for sure.
     
  18. Hayato213

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    Except it will work like 5 mintues then you get banned again, we know what you are talking about.
     
  19. RHOPKINS13

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    I'm sure it's possible, you can probably use blawar's incognito to backup the prodinfo of an unbanned Switch, and then restore it to a banned one. But afterwards I'm sure you won't be able to boot without CFW, and it probably won't be long until you're banned again.

    Might as well just get a new Switch and consider it a lesson learned.

    Aside from that, use switch-lan-play and/or ldn_mitm.
     
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  21. gomer1273

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    I don't even necessarily want to play against people online. I just want access to the eShop and patches again. It's like, "Hey Nintendo, in the process of making sure I don't pirate games, you've ensure that the ONLY way that I CAN POSSIBLY get games on this console now is to pirate them." Like, I don't think its unreasonable for them to institute a check to see if the game is running from a legit game cart in the slot, and if it is? Patch is able to be sent. If its a game that I purchased from the eShop? Patch away. If it has NOT been purchased by the account associated with the Switch and not running from the cart in the slot? No patch for you. I have a shelf of 20-25 physical games I bought for Switch that will never get patched officially again. If I want to buy a new eShop only game? I can't. My only option is to pirate it at this point.
     
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