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    Not all science is junk science, but Liberals will use anything to try to prove a point and if they can't then they deny the science. It's all about getting the attention and being right. Did we all forget that democrats were slave owners and republicans fought and brought about the end of slavery? Who do you think came up with the idea to classify people by their race (you ever fill out a job application?)? Liberals .... I'm not sure about you, but if you're forcing people into groups or giving one race or a group with certain beliefs preference over the others then you are the racist, but that makes too much sense so I just must be a closed minded bigot.
     
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    "Actually according to science, _____ is true"
    *overwhelming majority of scientists proves them wrong*
    "Hmmm... have you considered science is actually fake?"
     
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    Science is created by man therefor it is flawed. Science has caused more death and destruction on our planet than any natural force of nature. I prefer math.
     
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    Do not want to sound rude or anything, but my actual fear about conservatives, at least where i live, is that some of them have actually killed people of my condition (just talking about lgbt people, so sorry for being offtopic). The problem starts when you cant live your life without having fear of people because of that... ALTHOUGH, since i dont feel like being on any of those two sides, both conservatives and liberals can get pretty and equally violent when it comes to beliefs and ideas differences...
     
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    The problem with the whole gender thing is that people don't want to be "locked in" to 2 genders, but they ALSO don't want to be locked into 3,256,987 genders, either. The strongest advocates for this aren't looking to help anyone. They're looking for power and control. You can't make laws and regulations based on how people "feel". Today, I may identify as a straight white male..but tomorrow? Who knows? Maybe I'll decide I want to use the women's bathroom, so I'll identify as a woman. On Tuesday, I might decide that I'm a goald-brestid spugeddi monstur and insist that that's what they put on the forms I fill out at the DMV. I have the right to identify however I want and no one has the right to tell me I'm wrong. But where's the limit? What if I say I identify as an 11 year old boy? Is that too much? Should I get to pay the child's price for admission to places? If I have sex with someone, does that mean they're guilty of statutory rape? And, yes, I know most of you with normal to above average IQs are going to say I'm being ridiculous....and that's the point!

    You want more genders? Fine, create a few extra classifications that can fit on a form. The fact that I'm seeing forms that are Male/Female/Custom is absolutely absurd. The problem is showboating and unlimited potential for stupidity. You can NOT have 300 people with 300 different genders. It just doesn't work.

    If you aren't confident and comfortable with yourself as a fellow human being, then it doesn't matter what I call you, gender-wise. What you are is a whiny, weak, lonely loser begging for attention. THAT is your mental disposition.
     
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    Well, liberals kill people too. I don't think your choice of politics will make you more or less inclined to murder. Conservatives seem to get violent when they are threatened with violence and liberals get violent when people don't conform to their standards. I think conservatives are more level headed and don't care too much about what the liberals do if they would only keep it to themselves (which conservatives do). I'm an independent. I can't stand either political party as they have turned into giant corporations.
     
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    Literally all that's needed is just male, woman and nobinary with he, she, and they pronouns receptively
     
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    Sure, I can't disprove it. But I'm pretty sure that's not how it works...

    Anyway, if it makes you feel better, sure, go ahead claiming you are an attack helicopter. I legit don't care. I'm pretty sure other people will, though.
     
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    Non-binary is a mutation and very rare thus it is not considered a gender.
    Well, if liberals knew the larger picture they would have to question a lot of things so it's just better to ignore what is really going on and continue as normal. They never ask "why" and if they did they would figure out that their party wants more control over everything; larger government, more laws, more taxes. They want to be able to control everyone all of the time for their own benefit. Communism doesn't work as it's been proven not to time and time again, but I wonder what sort of "History" the Liberals are teaching our kids today?
     
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    Long ago there 2 only genders living in harmony but everything change when surgery arrive
     
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    That's pretty much it. Those Tumblr-invented "genders" don't deserve to be talked about.

    Not "considered"? Interesting choice of words. I mean, non-binary people do consider it a gender.
     
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    How many people are we talking about?
     
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    About 1%, the last time I checked.
     
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    I'm sorry, "keep it to themselves"? The last time I checked history, it was "conservatives" pushing LGBT out of their homes. It was conservatives not allowing them to do things such as getting married and adopting kids.
     
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    I totally agree, and I'd be willing to bet that that's what most rational people expect in the end, as well. I honestly think that this is the solution:
    If you want to get technical, you could also formally recognize MtF and FtM as genders, but... Otherwise, I honestly see no reason for more than that

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    You know... I'm on Tumblr myself, (mostly for art and fanfic stuff, but I see a bit of everything) and from where I sit that's blown WAY out of proportion. There are definitely people who take "otherkin" and follow obscure gender identities, but they are overwhelming uncommon. And even then, I honestly suspect that it's 50% smear propaganda... So what I guess I'm saying is that there's no REAL reason to fear that something like that would come to pass
     
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    The problem is (as it ALWAYS is) that these vocal minorities are the ones spreading hate and playing the victim. But then, rational people rarely are heard. The politicians, the ones that want to enslave all the non-binaries, will take these loud bullies as the example of the people who want more specific ways to identify.

    It's kind of like how when a tornado hits and they always find that one stereo-typical redneck couple that MIGHT have a double-digit IQ if you add both of them together... There are plenty of completely rational, intelligent people..but that's who the spokespersons are. Or when people badmouth the NRA and their example is always some militia group in Texas that flies a flag over their compound with the NRA logo. (Personally, I think the NRA are all money grubbing scum, but I don't believe all of their members are...don't go off on a tangent about gun control..I was just citing an example!)

    I'm a big geek...I've been to a LOT of animé conventions...and guess what! I'm pretty sure that straight, white anything is the minority at those events. Every line you stand in, you hear some girl-like person talking to another girl-like person about being trans and either praising or bashing people for their beliefs. On the other hand, I've had perfectly nice conversations with some that I could only assume were trans, but it never came up in conversation...so final point..and a throwback to what I said in an earlier post...

    If you have to tell the world what you are, then YOU are the one with the problem. I don't need to be told you are gay, straight, black white, male, female, a six-sided die, or, believe it or not, an Apache helicopter! Interacting with you as a normal and fellow human being will tell me all the information I need. The only time I NEED you to bring up gender or preference is if we're going into a relationship, then it becomes a bit important.
     
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    I agree with most of your post but disagree here. I think you should have to tell people how you would like to be addressed exactly once, and remind as necessary. If you tell people how you indentify just to hear the sound of your own voice, that's obviously a problem, but otherwise if a person finds themselves repeating how they want to be addressed, chances are the fault is actually on the person addressing them
     
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    I'm not saying that everyone on Tumblr is like that. All I'm saying is that those people are way too loud. If you never heard of non-binary, that is probably the first thing you will find when doing your research.
     
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    I hate to say this, but you have a terminology problem.
    Hell, stop basing everything on "anecdote" or "feeling".
    Define what and in which context means "sex" and "gender", citing respectable sources.
    Use the same language people.

    PS: Of course gender and sex are not the same word, and don't have the same meaning. They are related though. What about being explicit about the difference? Like one being related to culture, role and behavior, and the other to biology?

    People suck at language...
     
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