The Walking Dead [MAJOR SPOILERS!]

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Well damn... I guess my suspension of disbelief was shattered the 100th consecutive time Daryl one-shotted a walker with a goddamned crossbow... Or Rick bullseyed a walker with his six-shooter that he never seems to run out of ammo for...

I forgot to mention that but that also is a major annoyance for me. They NEVER miss. I have not seen a single bullet miss in this season. It's always a headshot. I would say if it was Rick (a rather seasoned police officer with advanced firearms training) or Daryl (a long time hunter whose proficient in firearms), I could maybe consider it. But like recently, when the zombies break into the camp, you see Carol pull out a pistol and headshot like three zombies in a row. Goddamn Carol. Not Rick, not Daryl, Carol. It really, REALLY bugs me.

Even worse, you see I believe it's Glen on the watch tower in one scene and he's literally headshotting walkers, with a pistol, from a top the watchtower a fair distance away. Not a single miss. I forgot to bring this all up but it's also a suspension of disbelief breaker.

As for evil, for a show like TWD, where there's no law, you have to judge evil by your standards. In our world and our standards, what the Governor does is recklessly evil or insane. There's no two sides to it, he's not like Shane who was evil but a lot of people could see his point. I mean the show could even have a Twilight-esque "Team Rick vs. Team Shane" thing going for it. Like everything that makes you want to hate Shane actually has a very valid point to it, what he did wasn't to classify him as evil, it was to classify him as human. For the Governor, a lot of his decisions are both impractical for the sake of being evil or just plain crazy. Like shooting the guardsmen before assessing what they can bring to the group makes him evil. The other side would be "He wanted their shit" but there could have been a fair amount of potential in the personnel themselves. Even just a simple scene where it shows the Governor debating with one of his men (the scientist guy for example, even the Governor says something along the lines of "You're here to disagree with me", almost giving him the role of adviser among other things) about keeping the guardsmen around but the Governor saying "There's too much risk" or something would make me feel more secure with his decision. For the boxing matches, if he wanted to blow off steam, go get some acoustic guitars for a music night. Go set up a wiffleball field. Have some small Christmas party. I don't know, they're all solutions to the problem, having boxing matches with zombies around is not. I know we're both in agreement on the "heads in jars" thing but it's just further evidence to show they classify him as only a generic evil bad guy with poor or no motives for being evil instead of someone whose evil for a good reason.
 

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Yeah, much better episode than the last one. Of course it has its groan moments (or "groanments") now and then but it wouldn't be TWD if there wasn't something eyeroll-worthy in each episode.

My eyeroll moment goes towards the Andrea-Governor romance. Mainly because A) I could smell it from a mile away and B) it was stupid. Andrea is just a stupid character and the show would be so much better if she was digitally edited out and if she just offed herself at the end of season one like she should've.

Second groanment goes to the whole Hanging on the Telephone thing which was dead obvious that he was a bit loosey in the goosey. Seemed like a good chunk of show wasted. We get it, he's sad over Laurie and now he accepts it. Didn't need half an episode to show a guy sitting in a room waiting for the phone.

Also someone turned autoaim off. For the first half of the season they're plucking headshots across the map but now Katniss here can't even shoot a zombie with a bow and Merle is a terrible shot.

Otherwise some pretty decent plot twists. Glenn and dat ass getting captured, Michonne (despite being the worst character on the show, yeah she beats Andrea folks) turning up at the prison, stuff like that. Actual shit that matters.
 

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I tend to skip when the show starts focusing on the Governor and Andrea. Its boring as. It makes my 40 minute show turn into less than 20 minute :( Cant wait for this arc or whatever part of this story ends. Or at least Governor and Andrea dying.
 

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I tend to skip when the show starts focusing on the Governor and Andrea. Its boring as. It makes my 40 minute show turn into less than 20 minute :( Cant wait for this arc or whatever part of this story ends. Or at least Governor and Andrea dying.
I totally agree with you. Their part of the episodes are always boring ass conversations and the predictable romance. I want to see what Ricks group does.
 

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This episode was pretty good. Ill tell you what, im going to be very upset if glenn doesnt make it or maggie. Im also rather upset about her almost r*pe seen. My heart was racing and I was just like "Im gonna stop watching if I have to witness this."
other then that, pretty exciting setup for next episode. Im interested to find out what happens next. Glad i didnt read the comic, so i can keep guessing!
 
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they used a lot from the comic, but with different characters.

comic spoilers (seriously don't read it if you are planning to read it later...)
Michonne and Rick get captured, Rick gets his already damaged hand cut off (which they kind of referenced intentional or not when they told Maggie that she would see Glenn's hand) and Michonne is violated and tortured by the governor (a very shocking part of the comic) in the other room. Glad it didn't turn out the same way.

Chavosaur, even if you have read the comic before watching the show, it still keeps you guessing! Some parts you can kind of recognize but it's usually with different characters involved. The show took an ENTIRELY different direction, which I think is a good thing instead of just repeating what some already know. But alas, this isn't a discussion about the comic version so I'll shut up now.
 
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Just seen the episode, it was pretty good.

Maggie's near-rape scene really kept me on the edge of my seat. Topless Maggie is super hot but...definitely not like this. That was just fucked up. Apparently in the comics, there is a full-on rape scene but I don't think the producers have enough balls to do that on a primetime television show.

I'm not so sure how safe Carl and the rest are at the prison. The guys from Woodbury could easily just go and takeover the prison now that Rick and the crew are out.

And that hobo scene didn't make much sense. Threatening to call the cops. It's been a year now, surely in that time-frame, he would have found out that the world went to shit. Unnecessary plothole.
Fuck mid-season finales. What happened to the days when a full season was aired without these stupid breaks? >:(

Can't wait until the next episode. Finally, we get to see the Ricktatorship vs. Woodbury!
 

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It's good that the series has diverted from it's "stupid" stage and is actually having stuff happening. The Governor/Andrea stuff is kinda boring but shit's happening and the Team Prison (to use that lame hashtag from Talking Dead) is becoming interesting.

Actually interested in seeing the midseason finale.
 

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Some one explain to me what happened to Andrea not being preggers anymore? I skipped any scenes with her opening her mouth so... did she lose it or something?
 

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Andrea wasn't pregnant, maybe you're thinking about Lori?

No Lori was a tad more of a bitch than Andrea when she was still alive. I'm sure I saw her fat belly grasping when she was still running around with Michonne, trying to survive before ever arriving at that forsaken place.
 

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No Lori was a tad more of a bitch than Andrea when she was still alive. I'm sure I saw her fat belly grasping when she was still running around with Michonne, trying to survive before ever arriving at that forsaken place.
Oh yeah, she was really sick and I don't think they ever explained why really. I don't remember her having a belly though, I think she wasn't eating or drinking so that could have killed it if she was prego... But I don't know about that, haha ^^

The show just got over one pregnancy though, I think it'd be too soon to just have a bunch of child births taking up what could be interesting, non-AndreaxGovernor air time! :P
 

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Oh yeah, she was really sick and I don't think they ever explained why really. I don't remember her having a belly though, I think she wasn't eating or drinking so that could have killed it if she was prego... But I don't know about that, haha ^^

The show just got over one pregnancy though, I think it'd be too soon to just have a bunch of child births taking up what could be interesting, non-AndreaxGovernor air time! :P

I must be lacking sleep. I spent an hour or so looking if Andrea was pregnant. It was her clothes that made me think she was pregnant and she kept slouching/holding her back. That's what got it burned into my memory since I skip so much lol My mistake =.= Thought it was Shane's baby or something.
 

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