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Are you retarded? Do you think everyone will just be "chill" if there was no police? The police budget is slashed as it is.
I am against the massive budgets that have lead to the militarization of the police

didn't nozick regard police as part of what even a minimalist state should have?
Yes he did (look up nightwatchmen minarchism) but I for one am against the militarization of the police not the police themselves (why I said slash not eliminate).
 
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Best way to lower the debt is to drop all these entitlement programs. People need to stop making bad decisions and become self reliant.
Mathematically you're not wrong, that is the best way to lower the debt. The actual details of the politics aside, however, voters would never vote for that, and the guy that did it would quickly get replaced by someone who restores them. That's why we need to consider other ways to restructure the budget.
 

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Mathematically you're not wrong, that is the best way to lower the debt. The actual details of the politics aside, however, voters would never vote for that, and the guy that did it would quickly get replaced by someone who restores them. That's why we need to consider other ways to restructure the budget.

Well yeah welfare reforment is where people who want to end their careers go. This is why I have no faith in the people. They are entitled POS and when the system collapses and all these parasites are on the streets dying or begging for food they will get no sympathy from me as they did it to themselves. We have had decades to correct this people but all people keep doing is pushing it off to the next generation.
 

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I for one am against the militarization of the police not the police themselves (why I said slash not eliminate).

The only way to slash the budget further would be to remove officers. The only "militarized" units are SWAT and other special ops that are required to have typically considered overpowered weapons because of their specific job duties. I guarantee you beat cops are going to go first if the budget is cut any further, they're already fighting with officers over overtime pay.
 

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Well yeah welfare reforment is where people who want to end their careers go. This is why I have no faith in the people. They are entitled POS and when the system collapses and all these parasites are on the streets dying or begging for food they will get no sympathy from me as they did it to themselves. We have had decades to correct this people but all people keep doing is pushing it off to the next generation.
The problem isn't so much that people are completely selfish, its that some people need this stuff to literally survive. It's moreso the fault of the policy-writers who made the programs unsustainable than the people who rely on them. It's completely common sense that people would become reliant on those programs.

That's also why need to indirectly lower costs rather than directly slash the programs. It's the only politically feasible solution.
 

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The problem isn't so much that people are completely selfish, its that some people need this stuff to literally survive. It's moreso the fault of the policy-writers who made the programs unsustainable than the people who rely on them. It's completely common sense that people would become reliant on those programs.

That's also why need to indirectly lower costs rather than directly slash the programs. It's the only politically feasible solution.

Most of these people are on these programs due to the bad decisions they made in life. (having kids too early, committing crimes(though depending on the crime itself losing employment opportunities is BS) didn't get an education in something worthwhile.) I'm fine with temp welfare as people do fall on hard times however if you are on that crap for 18 years because you fucked some guy who ran away the next day and you CHOOSE to have that kid why am the hell am I paying for it. Should have their child taken away from them. It's not that hard people understand intensives, when you subsidies something you get more of it. What is welfare but the subsidization of people's bad decisions.

The policy-writers who did this are long dead and I'm sure they knew this was going to happen. They just didn't care as all they needed were votes. This is why I don't understand people who are apart of one party or another. Both suck and don't give a damn about the middle class.

Beyond automation I don't see how you could do this. If we are doing this via taxes all we are doing is moving money around.
 
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