The status of Gateway and A9LH

Discussion in '3DS - Flashcards & Custom Firmwares' started by CreAtor135, May 24, 2016.

  1. CreAtor135
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    So uh.. decent news? Gateway has released a public Private Beta of their 4.0 build! This is the second round, and everyone can test! (Although I wouldn't advise that you try this before we know more about the beta in question.) According to the Gateway Team,
    Some things to clear up:
    -3DS CAN be powered on without GW Card, but it boots the GW menu.
    -If you're experiencing a black screen using Luma's chainloader, you'll have to reformat with emuNAND9 using the Format SD (no emuNAND) option.
    -Gateway's implementation does NOT exactly lock you to their cart. Every tool you have access to from the Gateway menu is free and accessible to all with or without a cart.

    What we know/can assume:
    -Updating sysNAND after GW A9LH will either brick the 3DS, or remove A9LH from the system.
    -It's possible to have 11.0 on Gateway sysNAND while still maintaining A9LH, it requires you flash an 11.0 NAND.bin during the A9LH install process, or updating to 11.0 sysNAND with a different CFW that supports FIRM protection.
    -The downgrader is extremely unstable, but it's possible the GW Team has stabilized it. (we won't know until testers confirm.)
    -A reddit user has confirmed that they were able to install A9LH using only Gateway's tools on their N3DS, so i guess they're doing something right for once :)
    -No GBA support, although someone states that they can run GBA in sysNAND.
    -DS Games and Flashcards may or may not work in emuNAND, there are mixed reports of this.
    -N3DS users on 8.1J now have a solution for their consoles, they can use Gateway in sysNAND mode on 4.0a/b to update to a full 9.2 build with profi200's sysUpdater
    -n3DS can't upgrade to 10.3 while o3DS can.
    -o3DS will be upgraded to 10.3 before downgrading to 2.1 for OTP.bin, due to an error with direct downgrading from 9.2.

    So far, not much is known about this new beta aside from what the GW team has told us. If you can test, please report your tests so I can update this thread with any new information that rolls by!

    -The Gateway Team has released an arm9loaderhax.bin file on their website. It is confirmed to be working with current A9 payloads.

    There's an ok chance that Gateway will fix their problems, as this is a beta test however,
    it is much too early to make any final judgments about this whole release.

    Please inform me of what I'm missing. Will update post. (pls no memes b0ss)



    P.S. No one cares about what you like/dislike, what you think is worth it or not, or even why you want to use one CFW over the other. This thread has one purpose, and that's to document the status of GW's A9LH implementation as well as help those who are going through with it. I asked for a civil thread, so please don't bring your CFW vs. GW replies here.
     
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  2. squee666

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    you forgot to add you cannot load other CFW's with gateways A9LH or other payloads to be exact
    blocking important stuff like Decrypt9 etc
     
  3. CreAtor135
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    Alright. Will add it to post.
     
  4. proflayton123

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    Well thats a bummer..
     
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    Here, there and everywhere
    More like dealbreaker for some
     
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    I'll stay out of this for now, but

    are both entirely subjective and shouldn't be in the OP. You have no way of knowing either.
     
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    I really hope they see this thread and the other thread. I made my grumps there, but really do hope that with another delay, they can actually fix the problems with their cart.
    I know another delay would suck, but at this point, it's for the best.
     
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    They can't even pull off an stable downgrader, quite pathetic of them :P although it is brickway
     
  9. Traiver

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    Pew! *Out of the bag*
    The top screen of your 3DS is flashing/flickering due having GW 4.0a on the 3DS.
     
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    A full blown solution that supports all options. Be it from Gateway or a private dev. I have hopes that the scene sees a nice merging.
     
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    Maybe add the SALT Team into the mix? :P
     
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    Alright, now we are getting ahead of ourselves.
     
  13. Ordim3n

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    You can do this without gateway, just close put your N3ds in sleep mode while in 2.1 for a few hours
     
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    This sounds good im willing to spend 80 on this. It also looks really simple to install. Just add games to the micro sd and it works right?
     
  15. Traiver

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    Not 100 %, I booted my new3DS XL into GW A9LH Sysnand 11.0 and it worked fine but I went back to 3.7.1 with Emunand
     
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    i really dont care what happens i just hope its stable for sun/moon release since i only play my 3ds when new pokemon games come out
     
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    It's referring to the fact that it doesn't unbrick EmuNAND before flashing to sysnand, something d0k3 himself confirmed.
     
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    Whoa really? Did you restore an 11.0 NAND.bin?
     
  19. Traiver

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    Yes, thats true. On this part you have to follow the part with OTPhelper. I already wrote that to the GW team.
     
  20. Nirmonculus

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    Glad the other thread was closed down. I guess I'll take a nap and see what happens when I wake up.