their still on the wii u just renamed to plus and minus
Ya thanks. Was just looking that up.
They still have start and select under those buttons so essentially they are still the start and select button.
From what I've seen though the other consoles call them Menu and Options. I don't think they mix with the guide button but if they do it is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
Imagine getting stuck at a start menu trying to get the guide to pop up.
Then again I'm pretty sure they wont do that.
Actually the Ouya is another example.
One of the reasons I didn't buy it.
Why, why remove a good button?
Select I also thing is a good idea though, one dedicated for menus and another for pausing.
Sure extra buttons are overkill but I'd rather have them than go without.
Not like it costs all that much more to design a start and select button in the controller heh.
Then again not much a loss either, controllers have all these new gimmicks so I guess we'll see how it turns out.