The Pokemon Company has filed a lawsuit against those who leaked pre-release images of Sword/Shield

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  1. LonelyPhantom

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    But the real question is, would you really want them to?
     
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  2. cots

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    Copyright still applies regardless if you paid for the item or not. If you're reproducing copyrighted material without permission you can be held liable. I do think it's a bit extreme to punish people simply posting pictures from a guide book, that is unless they scanned and uploaded the entire book. However, I think it would be more appropriate to criminally (not in civil court, but in criminal you go to jail court) go after the people who were responsible for pirating and leaking the actual game and every single person who has pirated it since then. What's the penalty from the Felony? $250,000 fine and 5 years in jail? Sounds about right to me. Maybe in 10 years the next generation will change their ways and put as much value in video game piracy as the current one does in #metoo and go after all of the people who were pirating Switch games.
     
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  3. RedBlueGreen

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    Disgusting. They made a shitty game, that sold really well. They're just mad that people aren't satisfied with it and that they hurt their reputation by only including half the Pokédex. Rather than wasting resources than pursuing frivolous lawsuits (I doubt anybody who posted leaks was under an NDA) they should put them towards making a decent game.
     
  4. Sophie-bear

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    A lot of this isn't true.
     
  5. Sheshomegrown

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    Yeah, make someone have to pay 250,000 usd and 5 years in prison for copying data.. Especially from someone who said themselves that they've never made as much money on one of their releases before.. What kind of sentence do you feel that people who took a loaf of bread because they couldn't afford it, or people who shares their Netflix account, deserve?

    And, please, continue comparing sexual harrasments and rape to copying data (or in this case, taking pictures of a guide book), they are really, really similar!
     
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    gold psot right here
     
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  8. chrisrlink

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    god for once i wished anonymous did something like how they fucked sony up after the geohotz fiasco some companies need to BURN
     
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  9. SatoXR

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    Oh. So this was the cause of the dex campaign. XD

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    Oh. So this was the cause of the dex campaign. :rofl2:
     
  10. cots

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    Piracy is wrong and the USA it's illegal. If you can't afford something that doesn't mean you can simply steal it. If that's so, what's your home address? I can't afford a car right now. Would your parents mind if I steal theirs? Piracy is wrong regardless of anything you could possibly say to defend it. Can't handle the time don't do the crime
     
  11. codezer0

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    I don't think that's the point being argued, so much as that if there is a punishment to be doled out, that it should fit the crime.

    In other countries, speeding ticket fines are assessed based on a sliding scale tied to your income. So it'll hurt (relatively) equally, but be more expensive to the rich prick that could afford a 300+kph hypercar compared to the guy that was doing 50 in a 40 in a 20-year-old beater.

    In the event of those that were under NDA, a fitting punishment would be revocation of their privileged access, and likely a loss of job, if not reassignment to another place. But punishing someone that isn't under an NDA to begin with? With what?
     
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  12. cots

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    You can still be punished for copyright infringement for beaching a NDA. The NDA is simply a contract between you and the company. You're still legally responsible for your own actions. Seeings as it's Hate Crime to utter words like "I don't like you because you're an illegal alien" in certain states, which carries a high fine and a long jail sentence plus a felony criminal record that prevents you from employment and public assistance I think actually doing something illegal (not simply participating in free speech) is a legitimate reason to imprison someone. If I caught someone personally stealing from me they'd wish the only thing that would have happened to them was sitting in a jail for 5 years.

    10-20 years ago the crimes the #metoo people are accusing people of were generally accepted by society if not completely overlook by authorities. Who knows. That may happen in another 10-20 years regarding software piracy. Maybe the kids would become obsessed with ruining the previous generations lives based on them doing stuff that was pretty much viewed as okay by the majority of society back when they were doing it.
     
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  13. codezer0

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    And, again... what about for those who never worked for them in the first place? The problem with this lawsuit is implying that Game Freak is pursuing damages against someone, or some people, that never worked for them in the first place, and thus had nothing to gain by keeping their secrets for them.
     
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  14. chrisrlink

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    piracy isn't the point if it was they'd be going after the xci leakers not a damn strat guide leaker their just doing this to amass money for a possiable class action against them for false advertisments (not to mention the joycon drift lawsuit) that's their true motive in my mind corporate greed
     
  15. cots

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    Copyright infringement isn't dependent on the infringers motivations. Unless they're lives were on the line and they were being forced to post the material there's no valid defense for their actions. There's no good reason you could come up to present to the Judge on why you committed the crime. Most of these "I'm above the law pirate types" who get caught usually crumble in front the Judge anyway. So replies from pirates defending their pale egos on this forum isn't going to change my viewpoints. Though, like I already stated, unless they scanned and posted the entire book I think a small fine would suffice, which is probably what's going to happen anyway. Now, if you're pirating the entire game then or were involved in leaking it and get put in front of the Judge none of your "group census on justifying pirating" is going to be able to defend you from facing the piper. Don't believe me? Go research lawsuits and criminal cases brought against video gaming pirates in the last 30 years and then get back to me on how many beat the charges.
     
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    I don't think they could get whoever it was based on the fact he leaked game info alone. Unless he was under some sort of NDA. But most likely a store broke release date and they are the ones who should be anwering to Nintendo.
    All the guy who shared it did wrong was distributing warez (it's still copyright infringement even if it's just some scans). Something I think most of us have been guilty of at multiple points in time. And while you can certainly get prosecuted for that (see: https://gbatemp.net/threads/kongsnutz-my-story.361116/ ) that is the most they could get him for AFAIK.
    Now if he was actually an employee at a mall or game store who leaked it, he might have been under some sort of NDA, and the punishment would likely be much stricter for that.
     
  17. Sliter

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    the thing is, the person knew that shouldn't have been doing that and did anyway, isn't because they got any early access that mean they are better than anyone that don't, and with that I think it's ok
    And they are probably more doing that for probably avoid more alike in the future...
    Idk I don't want any bad for no one, I just don't like the idea some can do want they want and get free with that XD if someone that work with t can't show his kids what they are working at, if it get leaked and know he would suffer a lot from that, why someone complete ramdom can go and show everything lol
     
  18. RAWRzilla22

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    So they're asking the community to squeal on the leakers?

    Fat chance of that, unless someone has a grudge and also a hole for a heart.
     
  19. Captain_N

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    like it matters if images are leaked. i would have leaked them over a tor connection over a vpn if i had the pics. I would have leaked them just because.
     
  20. Sheshomegrown

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    Dude, you are in here saying that people should be put in prison and fined for taking pictures of a guide book, yet you still hint that you're gonna beat the living shit out of someone who steals something from you. What would be a good sentence for you? Surely beating someone should have a higher sentence than stealing materialistic things, yes?

    Nice way of completely missing everyone's points..

    I find it a little bit intriguing how important it is for you to defend money loss (that they can't even prove) for a multi-million dollar company. How is it that you feel more sorry for them than the person not affording bread, or the women and men in #metoo?
     
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