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So a thread about homosexuals gaining broader representation is devolving into, let's not mince words here, a discussion on their "grossness"? Lovely.

I think its funny how you describe gross as "unnatural and disgusting" because two guys getting it on is unnatural and disgusting. How is it offensive to find two guys making out gross? If someone said "I think two women making out is gross" I'd understand. It's not something everyone accepts and I just happen to be ok with two women that's all.

Top prize.

(Also, I don't think you understood the distinction he made, which has more to do with labeling).

Tell me you didn't find it gross when Jim and Stifler kiss in American Pie 2. Even the actors look grossed out. I don't think it's offensive to say its gross, that's just an opinion, IMO.

Are we really citing American Pie 2 here as back up? Really?

Again, not seeming to understand Guild's point, but one point in particular bugs me. Of course that's based in opinion... as is racism, sexism, etc. That doesn't make them any more valid or any less abhorrent.

Saying "it's gross" is pretty offensive no is not you sure find anything to criticize geez

Did you quote his text... and try to quote him again in your post? Why?


Wow just what I always wanted, to be gay in a game. This will make my life complete

I've seen this sort of sentiment before, and I just don't get it. You don't have to opt for the "gay option" - you can stick with a M/F pairing or just skip the romance all the same. It's not being forced on players; it's an inclusive, harmless extra feature, one that gives players more freedom to develop their characters as they see fit.

Unless that obvious sarcasm was just poorly conveyed sincerity, in which case... congratulations?
 

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I always thought chewie was too feminine.... I mean not once did he try anything with Leia, even her own brother got a lttle action. I think she would have liked a little wookie.
 
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So a thread about homosexuals gaining broader representation is devolving into, let's not mince words here, a discussion on their "grossness"? Lovely.

You've got me all wrong. It has nothing to do with finding homosexuality being gross. In fact I love it when two women start making out and I have no problem watching alien women getting it on in zero gravity(Mass Effect, heck yeah!). It's the guys that's gross. I mean lets be honest if you were in a galaxy far, far, away and happened to walk across two guys swappin spit and "getting freaky" on Tatooine then chances are if you were straight you'd find that totally disgusting. However if you came across Princess Leia and a Twi'lek well...

Anyways yeah I find that "personally unattractive" but are to tell me when I see two guys doing the handy panky that my stomach gets upset because that's "unattractive"? I agree there's a difference between something being "personally unattractive" and "gross" but two guys getting it on is unnaturally gross (at least to me).

*EDIT* As you can tell I have no problem with SWTOR allowing gay relationships. My original post was just me saying go Lesbians! boo dudes.
 
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You've got me all wrong. It has nothing to do with finding homosexuality being gross. In fact I love it when two women start making out and I have no problem watching alien women getting it on in zero gravity(Mass Effect, heck yeah!). It's the guys that's gross. I mean lets be honest if you were in a galaxy far, far, away and happened to walk across two guys swappin spit and "getting freaky" on Tatooine then chances are if you were straight you'd find that totally disgusting. However if you came across Princess Leia and a Twi'lek well...

Anyways yeah I find that "personally unattractive" but are to tell me when I see two guys doing the handy panky that my stomach gets upset because that's "unattractive"? I agree there's a difference between something being "personally unattractive" and "gross" but two guys getting it on is unnaturally gross (at least to me).

*EDIT* As you can tell I have no problem with SWTOR allowing gay relationships. My original post was just me saying go Lesbians! boo dudes.

Alas your sentiment when applied to another once prevalent idiocy is "I don't like black people, Asians are OK though". People have been trying to stop this from veering off topic to ones we have had before though and I am not intending to be the one to send things off topic so I will leave it there for now.

On the "it took a lot of coding"- having had to handle ancient HR systems before I can believe it, I had thought most people had learned the lesson though. That said game developers seem to have very odd approach to coding so I guess I will chalk it up to that.
 

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On the "it took a lot of coding"- having had to handle ancient HR systems before I can believe it, I had thought most people had learned the lesson though. That said game developers seem to have very odd approach to coding so I guess I will chalk it up to that.
It's the old Y2gay problem in database engineering. But I think the extra coding they are referring to was repurposing all the triggers in the story to work on both genders (depending on NPC); you can see where that could take some time to debug.
 

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To be fair, we probably shouldn't be talking in terms like "gross" and "attractive" and use "appealing" instead.

It's a matter of perspective - your average heterosexual male may be aroused by two chicks making out - I mean, it's two chicks and they're all warmed up - instincts do their job. The same guy shouldn't be aroused by one, two or twenty men going down on it - I think it's pretty obvious why. ;)

Not gross, but not necessarily a view to behold for your average heterosexual male.
 

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You've got me all wrong. It has nothing to do with finding homosexuality being gross. In fact I love it when two women start making out and I have no problem watching alien women getting it on in zero gravity(Mass Effect, heck yeah!). It's the guys that's gross. I mean lets be honest if you were in a galaxy far, far, away and happened to walk across two guys swappin spit and "getting freaky" on Tatooine then chances are if you were straight you'd find that totally disgusting. However if you came across Princess Leia and a Twi'lek well...

Anyways yeah I find that "personally unattractive" but are to tell me when I see two guys doing the handy panky that my stomach gets upset because that's "unattractive"? I agree there's a difference between something being "personally unattractive" and "gross" but two guys getting it on is unnaturally gross (at least to me).

*EDIT* As you can tell I have no problem with SWTOR allowing gay relationships. My original post was just me saying go Lesbians! boo dudes.

...Every time you try to clarify your position, you just dig yourself deeper and deeper. That's about as juvenile as it gets, and, not only that, Guild's original point (you know, there's a world of difference between labeling it unappealing or unattractive and disgusting, unnatural, gross, etc.) still seems to have gone right over your head.

Just a heads up: Being cool with lesbians because you find them hot doesn't make you an open minded, progressive person. Really, that's more demeaning than anything else.
 

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So right now I'm reading "I have no problem with same-sex relationships as long as it's attractive lesbians I can watch, but when two men want to have a relationship, it's unnatural and disgusting."

God this site is beyond fucking retarded.
...Every time you try to clarify your position, you just dig yourself deeper and deeper. That's about as juvenile as it gets, and, not only that, Guild's original point (you know, there's a world of difference between labeling it unappealing or unattractive and disgusting, unnatural, gross, etc.) still seems to have gone right over your head.

Just a heads up: Being cool with lesbians because you find them hot doesn't make you an open minded, progressive person. Really, that's more demeaning than anything else.
Demeaning? Open Minded? Progressive person? fucking retarded? too many words for something that's not too complicated. This whole conversation is getting stupid and as you can tell I'm not taking it any more serious than it needs to be. Guild, yes I'm fucking retarded but it's just my opinion. Gahars, if it makes you feel better I'm not an open minded progressive person and a racist, nazi, and on some days I like to talk shit about feminism.

Back on topic though... who here likes blue alien breasts? I know I do. I wonder if we'll get to see a sex scene between Gamorrean and a Sarlacc. Wishful thinking.
 

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OFF TOPIC.. Firstly, yeah Vanth88 could have rephrase it better or even keep it to himself for the trouble but his feeling is just that, HIS FEELING, not that i'm sharing it but i can see where he's coming from.. Gahars, you should stop being SO militant and supportive of homosexual behaviors either you being gay or having gay relatives are your own situation, not his.. He don't have to justify his feelings before you or anyone and your name calling is indeed uncalled for a civil discussion.

Secondly, males and females we are obviously different human beings body wise, mind wise, sexually wise etc.. Female homosexual behavior is widely more accepted and A LOT LESS SHOCKING because gay women usually are not as militant as gay men, because of their means of sexual activity being more about soft kisses and touches, because us males think it a cute and harmless phasis what with lesbian sex being a strong male fantasy to join them in their action is old news..
Male homosexual behavior, even with the intent being the same is a WORLD of difference in acts, let's just say two male bodies are not quite meant for each other. With the means of penetration and ejaculation adding to it, you would be hard pressed to legitimate a male being penetrated a "normal" and "natural" event to take place.. Hell, some realities you can't discuss they are natural laws, anus lack of natural lubrication and its muscles one-way function to push excrements outside of the human body are proof enough it is not designed for penetration.
Got to stick to facts and deal with facts, male homosexual behavior is simply appearing a lot more obviously wrong in terms of appeal and health care than female homosexual behavior, fairly or not that's just it.. The real question being, is it right to make a difference between male and female homosexual behaviors when it comes to moral views..? But that's not the topic here. Our lives and societies are crippled with stereotypes, such as homosexual males being effeminate or Germans being nazis, all Arab and Muslim people being terrorists, all Jews are greedy, etc.. Up to each of us to dig further under the layers of culture & education on their own truth about a given matter, for their own maturity if they so chose.. Period.

Thirdly about that Y2gay database link, i got upset just from the first lines seeing how them little programmers know obviously no God but their own little selves throwing about Marriage Institution as they see fit.


ON TOPIC.. I think it is a good addition to the game, giving more freedom to a minority and a sensible opportunity to roleplay and better understand their feelings within a virtual world for our youth or anyone's confused times.. Nothing constructive in hiding and denying, iron must endure through fire to make a solid steel. Peace out!!
 
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Tell me you didn't find it gross when Jim and Stifler kiss in American Pie 2.
That's because they aren't homosexual, and they've maintained a strictly heterosexual relationship for many years within the plot.

Even the actors look grossed out.
Uh. That's because they're actors? If the script and director dictate that the characters look grossed out, they'll look grossed out. If an actor is screwing their face up during filming due to personal views, they'll be likely fired or yelled at for unprofessional behavior.

I don't think it's offensive to say its gross, that's just an opinion, IMO.
You think that something cannot be offensive if it's just an opinion? An opinion that somebody is expressing to others?
 

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The opinions in this thread are laughable. It's hard to believe you children are this delusional, your opinions driven by premature urges brought on from busting a nut over fake sensationalized lesbians you've seen in porn. It's even funnier when you know anything remotely about sexual exchange, many straight men enjoy sexual stimulation to the prostate, an organ you'll find located in your anus. You'll find plenty of straight men into anal stimulation. There is truly no hope for you if you believe that male homosexuality is less legitimate then female homosexuality, I almost pity you for just how blatantly wrong your views are. I guess I shouldn't be surprised someone from France would have trouble understanding progressive views considering your country's hobby for instigating and harassing Muslims and other such religious groups. The fact that you try to justify your thoughts with a G.I. Joe tier PSA on stereotypes is only a testament to your own insecurities.

You really don't do this website any justice.
 

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The opinions in this thread are laughable. It's hard to believe you children are this delusional, your opinions driven by premature urges brought on from busting a nut over fake sensationalized lesbians you've seen in porn. It's even funnier when you know anything remotely about sexual exchange, many straight men enjoy sexual stimulation to the prostate, an organ you'll find located in your anus. You'll find plenty of straight men into anal stimulation. There is truly no hope for you if you believe that male homosexuality is less legitimate then female homosexuality, I almost pity you for just how blatantly wrong your views are. I guess I shouldn't be surprised someone from France would have trouble understanding progressive views considering your country's hobby for instigating and harassing Muslims and other such religious groups. The fact that you try to justify your thoughts with a G.I. Joe tier PSA on stereotypes is only a testament to your own insecurities.

You really don't do this website any justice.

Wow, so hateful.. Was it directed to me alone? For the record :

1. No fapping over lesbian sex on YouPorn here and look at my age.. I tend to stay clear from pornography in any way, shape or form.
2. "Enjoying" anal stimulation falls into perverted practices if you ask me.
3. My post was precisely saying female homosexual behavior is erroneously "charming" in comparison to male one for the most of us men outsiders.
4. I don't usually go with stereotypes and don't do that distinction between male and female homosexual behaviors in terms of moral views.
5. There is no legitimacy for what is wrong/deviant/sin, whatever trend is forcing out of it. The original sin is to tell Right from Wrong stealing that role from God, remember?
6. I am not into politics, but a Christian person.
7. Muslims and uncontrolled immigration are indeed a threat for "traditional" France with mosquees spreading and social abuses, and to say Islam promoting hate is sad but true concerning actual conflicts.
8. I did not "try to justify my thoughts with stereotypes" at all, besides not having to justify my views i wrote about them for quite the opposite, to actually break some of them stereotypes.
9. I do indeed justice to this website sticking around, what with weaboos, gay friendly or discriminatory pressions and nintendo fanboys all over the place, because i care for this community for long and wish the best to my fellow tempers.

Done.. Truth is no one has a clue about who are others, so don't get too personal, thanks.. Mind you, this is courtesy of my good will to tell more about my personal views to some random internet stranger as you are to me. So long, Mr Judgemental!
 
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