1. Sicklyboy

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    Wow this is so sad. Alexa, play Despacito.
     
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  2. UltraSUPRA

    UltraSUPRA No Hope, No Escape, No Mask
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    It doesn't matter. The law shouldn't directly be causing physical harm to undeniably innocent people.
     
  3. Sicklyboy

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    What laws? I haven't seen a single law regarding masks. Executive orders, plenty. Laws, no.

    Also, do you like... not readjust your mask if it starts riding up, do you just let it go into your eyes and then complain that it went in your eyes? If mine ever rides up I have never not have some time where I can just not move my jaw at all and it stop moving, then I can adjust it when I have a moment.
     
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  4. UltraSUPRA

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    Okay. Sure. I still live in a state where masks are mandatory.
     
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    By law, or by governor executive order? There's a difference.
     
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    *rolls eyes* Governor executive order.
     
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    So, not a law. Let's stay honest with one another here, it does nobody any good to be spreading disinformation :)
     
  8. UltraSUPRA

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    It's still mandated by local government.
     
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    in massachusetts its LAW and comes with a 5k fine there is also a new thing where if you are coming from out of state and get caught not 14 quartining yourself that too comes with a 5-15k fine. Over in Sydney autralia its a police state 1 hour of outdoor anything you mustnot exceed this or be jailed.

    There is a major over reach in AUS an US at the very least.
     
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    per mill brah 202,000 million is 202 billion your math is off and CDC put out the total deaths in america is 186k with total US deaths from all things at 1.9 mill https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm the true amount of CONFIRMED covid caused deaths are at 10,686 prior was 9,210 when the story broke that only 6% of cases had tested positive for covid and died from it and not anyother disease such as PNEUMONIA gotta love how easy it is for the news to hide this data by manipulating data and numbers of other factors.
     
  11. omgcat

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    AUS seems a bit extreme, but safety measures being enforced by law has been ruled constitutional since before the 1918 pandemic. Any law passed during a state of emergency with regards to a pandemic will probably win a supreme court case as long as it follows 2 rules, based on the ruling from Jacobson v Massachusetts.

    (1) Is there a compelling state interest in an effort to protect public health and safety?
    (2) Is the State’s police power necessary and being exercised in a reasonable and not an arbitrary manner?

    Jacobson v Massachusetts in 1905 upheld compulsory vaccination for smallpox, and jail time for not following health regulations as constitutional, as long as they are evenly applied to everyone.
     
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    Over here where I live most people are doing quite well wearing a mask, more encouraged by the sky being filled with smoke I imagine. I think what most people in the us think is that the usa's 'freedom" means you can do whatever you want although this would be incorrect I imagine because the country of the usa can take away those freedoms as easily as it gives it to you. To be honest if the usa prides itself on being #1 they should first focus on the people as there have been a lot of stories recently of people being quite rude and disrespectful. I'm not sure as to how the usa would fix this though as most of the people seems rather unconcerned when it comes to their own safety as well as others.
     
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    we are #1, in deaths and stupidity.
     
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    source:
    https://ncov2019.live/

    He does data scraping from state governments websites, not sure when the CDC announced 186k but it must have been data from a while ago:
    https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-...17-20-intl/h_e984bc04705ad12be17defb073da7dd5

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...nfusion-cdcs-covid-19-death-count/3254404001/

    Also not sure where your million billion confusion results from, per million means, those are the cases normalized to 1 million of a countries population. The number there is 610 for the US.

    The table is sorted by the last column on the right.

    Also your deranged number of 10k Covid deaths over all comes from where? Current classification used by the CDC for Covid deaths is ICD-10 Code U07.1 and always lists between 180.000-200.000.

    We are done playing the no, no that was not Covid, that was that famous summer pneumonia epidemic that went parallel with it game, played in Kazakhstan.
     
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    funny you mention that...it got overturned not 2 years afterward as HIGHLY unconstitutional.
    i posted the regularly updated CDC page and you still question it....then you link a CNN page that directly contradicts what the CDC page linked says(and uses as a listed source) this is the times we are living in the source is wrong but those that incorrectly quote the source is right. just wow.
     
  16. UltraSUPRA

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    So people are going insane and committing suicide because of how long the lockdown has lasted.
     
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    Which lockdown?

    Lockdown as in only go out of the house to buy food and to work - economically, is only viable for 3 months max. Even in economies that arent the US.

    Lockdown, as in full, across an entire country, only makes sense if you catch the propagation early (maybe first two weeks), because it prevents early spread, at low figures, when people dont know how social distancing works. Which when they get over it means, that your 'nearly exponential spread' starting number gets very low, which helps.
    Then you can but in border closings to keep it that way. In the US that never was the case.

    Because its so costly to maintain lockdowns, you really only want to do partial lockdowns (schools, eateries...) to minimize economic impact, if your hospitals are at risk of becoming overfilled, with all your medical personal going on strike.

    You yourself championed another kind of lockdown like no other - namely to lock away the elderly, because you dont want to wear facemasks.

    As for how suicide numbers in the US are doing - extremely badly, but that trend started way before the crisis.

    If you want to gage societal impact, please look at over mortality numbers. Epidemics cause spikes, suicides dont. (They dont spread near exponentially). And yes, people doing the lockdown math (when in becomes necessary, usually in big cities) also look at predicted suicide numbers. Then tell their idiot mayor what to do.

    Now stop posting crap and remove yourself from this forum - because all you ever added to anything was confusion, and propaganda you got your head washed with.

    I cant play your personal 'thinking engine' for all of eternity.
     
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    How about YOU remove yourself?
     
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    I can't tell if I should seriously respond or just laugh at the edge of your quote.
    Because, you seriously just posted cringe.
     
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