The Illegal Immigration Non-Crisis in the USA

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  1. Xzi

    Xzi A terrible fate fills you with determination

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    What resources exactly are we running out of? And if that's the case, why haven't we put a cap on the number of children that each couple is allowed to have? This line of reasoning is simply ridiculous. A bigger workforce provides us with more resources, not fewer. Particularly as we transition away from finite energy sources like coal and oil.
     
  2. kevin corms

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    Nope it doesnt mean that, and people dying is a direct consequence of people ignoring the real problems at the border that they want to call manufactured.
     
  3. monkeyman4412

    monkeyman4412 Gbatemp's moronic trash

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    Darn, I can't come up with something edgy
    The election was fucked regardless. It wouldn't matter either way.
     
  4. Xzi

    Xzi A terrible fate fills you with determination

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    You failed to address the fact that much of their coverage was neutral, not negative. Trump's victory was also a victory for the corporate sponsors of CNN and MSNBC, but really they couldn't lose once the race was locked in as Hillary vs Trump. The "great" Donald Trump has done nothing but keep people divided as a distraction while the oligarchs continue to pillage this country.
     
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  5. kevin corms

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    True, but on the bright side Hillary would have had the army attack Iran or Russia by now.
     
  6. monkeyman4412

    monkeyman4412 Gbatemp's moronic trash

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    Darn, I can't come up with something edgy
    Meanwhile Trump has pissed off and made us a joke to the whole world.
     
  7. Xzi

    Xzi A terrible fate fills you with determination

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    Nah, Hillary wouldn't have torn up the nuclear inspections agreement we had with Iran, nor would she have hired on warmongers like John Bolton to her administration. She would've been beholden to the oligarchy just as Trump is, but in every other respect she still would've been a better president.
     
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  8. Lacius

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    You have no idea what you're talking about. See Xzi's post above.
     
  9. SG854

    SG854 If It Bleeds, We Can Kill It

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    What an asshole response.


    We have no idea what a Hilary Presidency would be like. So you can’t say with confidence what would and wouldn’t have happened.
     
  10. Hanafuda

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    Not hard to imagine though.

     
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  11. Lacius

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    Hillary's position on the Iran Nuclear Deal was very clear, and they were keeping up their end. My point was that you apparently didn't know this.
     
  12. Haloman800

    Haloman800 a real gril

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    When's the last time you drove down the road & thought "there's not enough cars here", or waited in line at a store and thought "these lines should be longer"

    We don't need any immigration, legal or otherwise.
     
  13. Xzi

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    God forbid the president take a stance against dictators who slaughter their own citizens by the thousands, right? They're supposed to fall in love with dictators like Trump did with Kim Jong Un. /s

    So the entire country is overcrowded because you choose to live in a dense population center? It doesn't quite work that way.
     
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  14. Haloman800

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    Not an argument, also, starting your response with "so" is a tell that you're responding with emotions.

    We have enough people in the country, we especially don't need poor, uneducated 3rd worlders, the majority of which go on the public dole.
     
  15. Xzi

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    If mine isn't an argument then neither is the completely anecdotal evidence that you provided. I have no clue where you got that stupid idea in your head about the word "so," it's just a word like any other.
     
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  16. barronwaffles

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    How about instead of parroting the same horse shit you have peddled in the past on this topic you actually spend some time reading up on reports released after the (largely intentional) cluster fuck that was western intervention in Libya?

    https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201617/cmselect/cmfaff/119/119.pdf

    Edit - fantastic summary here for anyone else interested :
    https://www.salon.com/2016/09/16/u-...ow-natos-2011-war-in-libya-was-based-on-lies/
     
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  17. Xzi

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    How about realizing that we didn't engage in the practice of nation building in Libya like we did with Afghanistan and Iraq? Their fate was their own to decide after Gaddafi was out of the picture, as it should be. I'm not sure how you can argue that continued civil war would've resulted in anything different.
     
  18. Haloman800

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    Objectively false. Native-born Americans are on welfare at a lower rate than immigrants (both legal and illegal).
     
  19. Xzi

    Xzi A terrible fate fills you with determination

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    "Objectively false" he says, providing no evidence or source to back his claim.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/codesw...cans-are-opposing-government-welfare-programs

    So are all these white people immigrants (who can't apply for government assistance anyway), or are you just full of shit?
     
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  20. barronwaffles

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    From the Salon article -
    Take your intervention and 'nation building' and choke on it you fucking tool.
     
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