The BIG Football Thread

[ThatDudeWithTheFood]

Im just pointing out that he reason why Nani supposedly dug his boots further in was because he was running at pace and the momentum carried it through. No time to react and pull out. Plus at that moment in time, he's leg is off the ground without any balance so you'd expect a follow through until he reached the ground...

Aside from Roy Keane, what did all the other pundits say about the sending off?

I don't know I wasn't watching what they said someone just posted that quote and I thought it was relevant.

If that was Arebola flying into RvP you best believe we would be hearing
"He could have killed him" from SAF.

I think it's either a yellow or a red but what are you gonna do anyhow the game is over and we have no idea what the game would have been like had he not been sent off.

 

[Flame]

I don't know I wasn't watching what they said someone just posted that quote and I thought it was relevant.

If that was Arebola flying into RvP you best believe we would be hearing
"He could have killed him" from SAF.

I think it's either a yellow or a red but what are you gonna do anyhow the game is over and we have no idea what the game would have been like had he not been sent off.

man, i remember the days when you used to support Chelsea.

 

[ThatDudeWithTheFood]

man, i remember the days when you used to support Chelsea.

Which was never.

 

[Flame]

Which was never.

so you supported Man City most of your life. am i right?

 

[ThatDudeWithTheFood]

so you supported Man City most of your life. am i right?

Nope. I only got interested in football around 2009(because of FIFA 10) and I'm more of a Madrid supporter than a City supporter.
I played a lot of manager mode with Madrid and eventually I started actually being interested in real life soccer.
Video games man. Video games.

Well if it was the Champions League Final I would want Madrid to win.

 

[lufere7]

ARSENAL ARE THE LAST ENGLISH TEAM IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
HUEHUEHUE
;O;

If van persie had stayed at Arsenal he would still be in the champions league ;O;
God I love this circumstancial jokes

Btw why are you guys omitting that blatant rafael handball? it was a peno and red card. It was way more obvious than the Nani red card. Don't want to dwelve in referee decisions but manu is hardly a team that should be crying over decisions against them.

 

[pwsincd]

" I SINK DA BEST TEAM LOST" i have to agree with him... gutted.

 

[Black-Ice]

Don't want to dwelve in referee decisions but manu is hardly a team that should be crying over decisions against them.

#FergieTime

 

[ThatDudeWithTheFood]

If van persie had stayed at Arsenal he would still be in the champions league ;O;
God I love this circumstancial jokes

Btw why are you guys omitting that blatant rafael handball? it was a peno and red card. It was way more obvious than the Nani red card. Don't want to dwelve in referee decisions but manu is hardly a team that should be crying over decisions against them.

Robin Van Persie was also offside on MU's first goal but who really cares the game ended 2-1 and Madrid progresses.

 

[Flame]

If van persie had stayed at Arsenal he would still be in the champions league ;O;
God I love this circumstancial jokes

Btw why are you guys omitting that blatant rafael handball? it was a peno and red card. It was way more obvious than the Nani red card. Don't want to dwelve in referee decisions but manu is hardly a team that should be crying over decisions against them.

do you know anything about football? Turkish football is full of cheats. English is clean. this ref is from turkey. do the maths.

 

[lufere7]

do you know anything about football? Turkish football is full of cheats. English is clean. this ref is from turkey. do the maths.

lol

Can you seriously say with a straight face that this isn't a penalty+red card? If the ref was as biased toward Real as you say he would've surely done that shouldn't he?
And you're mad as if it was a ridiculously obvious decision like when rvp got sent off against barca, it wasn't. Nani went with his foot up, if Arbeloa hadn't jumped that could've been like the De Jong kick in the WC final. It was a tight decision.
And if you insist it's not a red here's a pretty fun video from a few years ago. Our own Eboue does a similar foul and gets sent off, no more and no less than against you guys. Fun thing is you can see Nani asking for the red at the start of the video
And EPL super clean? Referees against you? I'd say it's the total opposite.
Still, I understand you, going out of the UCL is one of the hardest things to bear in football.

 

[Madridi]

I never write here but here goes nothing.
My favourite team as you can guess from my name is Madrid. Juve comes in a close second, then it's Manchester united in third. I don't care about most other teams. The first match I ever saw was WC Final 1994 between Italy and Brazil. But football only became my obsession in 1997. I've been enjoying it since then

That being said, about this match:
- as mourinho said, the best team lost. Madrid played like shit, they lacked creativity and Sir Alex did an amazing job covering his area. Especially having pressure on Alonso the entire time.

- Madrid should have had a penalty and Rafael should have gotten a red card (as shown above). Not sure why people are ignoring that

- Madrid's disallowed goal decision is correct in my opinion. Ramos had his elbow over Van Persie.

- I've been hearing that Man u's goal was actually an offside. Never really noticed it so I'm not gonna comment on it. It doesn't change the fact that Varane handled the situation really badly, and Ramos acted too slowly when the ball reached him. That was really bad defending.

- Nani's red card. Correct call from the ref. Actually Roy keane sums it up pretty nicely. The intent does not matter here, the fact is that Nani really kicked Arbeloa in the ribs and that was a very very stupid move. Whether Nani did see Arbeloa and/or only tried to control the ball is irrelevant here. HOWEVER, having said that, given the size of the game and all, the ref could have gave him a yellow card and it still wouldn't be wrong.

- Modric changed the way the team played, and his goal was terrific.

- Ronaldo was below average today, but we can't really expect everything from him every game! Not to mention that the entire team was shit! However, as much as I admire Messi (and hate Barca), I think it wouldn't be fair for Ronaldo to not get the best player in 2013 (unless the next few months shows us something really significant)

- Diego Lopez really saved Madrid (although that ball slip in the first half was inexcusable!). Man u wasted a lot of chances and Madrid didn't seem to want to pursue a third as much they wanted to keep possession over the ball until the time runs out

- combined with first match, I think Madrid deserved to qualify, but Manchester didn't deserve to be sent off packin also. It sucks for them to meet in round 16

- I think Man U fans/players should dwell on the red card. Yes it did change things. But same could be said about Rafael's incident. The ref is only their scapegoat. It sucks to be out this way, but the fact is, they wanted to defend, and play on the counter. and although they did a good job at it, had Madrid scored from Rafael's incident, Man U plans technically failed.. Anyway, I think they should stop scapegoating the ref and just concentrate on what's left.

 

[ThatDudeWithTheFood]

lol

Can you seriously say with a straight face that this isn't a penalty+red card? If the ref was as biased toward Real as you say he would've surely done that shouldn't he?
And you're mad as if it was a ridiculously obvious decision like when rvp got sent off against barca, it wasn't. Nani went with his foot up, if Arbeloa hadn't jumped that could've been like the De Jong kick in the WC final. It was a tight decision.
And if you insist it's not a red here's a pretty fun video from a few years ago. Our own Eboue does a similar foul and gets sent off, no more and no less than against you guys. Fun thing is you can see Nani asking for the red at the start of the video
And EPL super clean? Referees against you? I'd say it's the total opposite.
Still, I understand you, going out of the UCL is one of the hardest things to bear in football.

Hey dude his arms being above his head is a natural position. EVERYONE JUMPS ARMS FIRST.

The Eboue red card is actually really hillarious though.

Best part of the game though.

 

[lufere7]

Great goal, love shots that hit the post and go in. You could feel that if it was just a little bit less angled De Gea would've deflected it, perfect shot.

 

[ThatDudeWithTheFood]

That shot was actually unsaveable there was a replay that showed that De Gea had the whole goal and post covered but the shot curved so fiercly it blew my mind.

 

[pwsincd]

The Rafael incindent was never a red card , just try and jump to head a ball and dont use your arms ... and then for the player next to you to head the ball at you full speed , you cannot react , it happened a few times in the game , the referee was right on all the occasions it was ball to hand , not hand to ball , the gif above doesnt depict the true context as its starts as his arm raises. Nani's play was dangerous but if you reallly watch what happened , the ref saw shit , like most didnt think it was red and the linesman suggested it to him , it definately changed united's game , from that very moment the game changed . But noone can say that Real wouldnt have scored their goals either way . IMO as a Utd fan RVP was not effective and never took his chances , as slim as they where. Still believe the better team overall lost... but i would : )

 

[Madridi]

The Rafael incindent was never a red card , just try and jump to head a ball and dont use your arms ... and then for the player next to you to head the ball at you full speed , you cannot react , it happened a few times in the game , the referee was right on all the occasions it was ball to hand , not hand to ball , the gif above doesnt depict the true context as its starts as his arm raises.

lol, wow.. Whatever floats your boat I guess :/

 

[emigre]

Still, I understand you, going out of the UCL is one of the hardest things to bear in football.

No it isn't. Dear God it isn't. There are much much worse things to deal with it.

 

[Flame]

so i wake up, and so its the next day......

and after the aftermath i come to the conclusion that Man Utd are fucked over nicely


I have been watching Cakir for years, hundres of games I watched. I think he is simply a bad referee. Zero leniency. People in Turkey always complain that he stops games too often, always make big calls, scenes so that after the games, he became more highlighted than the game.

And I was sure yesterday when he was talking with Van Persie, I knew he was gonna show red card and shock everybody, including Real players. None of real players thought it was coming, nobody was arguing with referee. Because that's him. On the contrary, if Real players were arguing, calling for a card heavily, then he would not give it. He is always like that, I saw countless times.
He always try to get the attention. If he was in this forum, he would be trolling.

I do not think he is bribed or malevolent person. He just makes big, risky calls to show that he is not intimated by the home crowd. So then average, football incompetent people say "wow this referee is brave, he must be good".


I think this position is between yellow and none.

Sportingintelligence: "Won't do ref any favours on Twitter he follows only 2 non-Turkish clubs; 1 is Real Madrid, other Barca. Also follows Spanish tourism board!"

 

[pwsincd]

https://twitter.com/RefereeCuneyt/following

he's following some interesting people ... hmmmm