The BIG Football Thread

[kakashi919]

Downing scored a goal and got an assist.... wow If today was the 21st it would really be the end of the world ^^

 

[lufere7]

Juventus safer shot for silverware than Utd, the club that won the most trophies past 10 years after Barcelona?
Nope....

Errr well, you can't just take the past in account for the chance of winning trophies in the present, that's not how things work. I mean, Juventus were the unbeaten champions who were getting better signings than United and just needed a CF. Add to the fact that Milan, their closest competitor, sold their 2 best players and the other teams were mostly rubbish, with van persie it was almost a given that they would win Serie A again and have serious chances at UCL. And then you have manchester united who went trophyless that season, couldn't get past the group stages of UCL and got beaten by Athletic on EL. It was a team who just signed Kagawa and ignored their serious flaws in defense and midfield. And this isn't even the point, my point was that even if United had a slightly better choice at silverware (which I don't think so) Juventus was a choice that didn't left him as a ungrateful prick.

And how can Arsenal not hate City then? I don't really understand this

I mean it's not that we don't hate them, but to most fans they just come as a mercenary-ridden side with no history that also wants all our players, while man u is a team every single arsenal fan hates, we have much more history of rivalry with them, we even hadn't sold a single player to them in the whole AW era. Rvp knew that and he still decided to go.

Of course I would detest that player if something like that happens, unacceptable. If you're a real fan of a club and it's the club of your heart, you should stay there IMHO. Only thing that is understandable is going to grab money in the real end of your career (like Del Piero did for example, or Raul, I can understand that)

Well he's obnoxious and he still is a dutchman, they have big mouths and talk when they aren't asked to talk.
I can't really blame him for some statements though, Arsenal doesn't have a chance to win a trophy atm, and by the transfers they are doing it seems they just don't want to win anything. Not mention the board who fucks up regularly, it's hard for players not to see that.

He probably too realized that he had to cash in on that fantastic season, he's at his top now (he isn't 22 anymore, things need to start happening for him NOW) and seeing Arsenal going in the wrong direction, he was pressed to make a change. Was cash on his best season yet (ever?) now, or take chances with Arsenal.

Heh, you just said it, who would respect a player who just babbled about his previous club and cashed out after a good season? I mean that was the whole point of this argument, me having to respect van persie, and you just listed some reasons why we I shouldn't. Add to that, that he slated the manager that stood by him through injuries, the problems he had with van marwijk, when he was accused of rape, the dutch fans saying he was overrated, etc. To me it just shows he is an ungrateful idiot.
Players like Henry, Vieira or Fabregas who gave their all and then left respectfully are the ones that deserve my respect not players like adebayor, nasri or van persie, that have a purple patch and believe that they are greater than the club.

 

[Flame]

shitty reading could hold on for another minute or two.

 

[Black-Ice]

The premier league table.
Its so.
Strangely even

 

[Shinigami357]

Vidic is starting.

O Ye Great Football Gods, I Beseech Ye, Let No Harm Befall Him That He May Help Us Whup Real's Arse


EDIT: Draw. Swans deserved the point.

 

[ThatDudeWithTheFood]

Swansea came through with the draw on my birthday.
Thank you football gods.
Thank you based god.

 

[Flame]

fucking Swansea.


there is no god.

 

[emigre]

#prayforvanpersie

Actually not terribly impressed by Fergie's crying over Williams. Calling for him to be banned is fucking disgrace.

 

[emigre]

https://twitter.com/ashleywilliams

 

[lufere7]

Hahaha it's ridiculous to ask for a ban, things like that happen all the time. I saw it and tbh it doesn't seem to be intentional. And Fergie crying is pretty ironic, considering he is the one that gets the most referee help.

 

[Flame]

imo i think he should get a life time ban. fucking disgrace that williams is.

 

[kakashi919]

lol If he does get banned I wonder how people would react

 

[Satangel]

Errr well, you can't just take the past in account for the chance of winning trophies in the present, that's not how things work. I mean, Juventus were the unbeaten champions who were getting better signings than United and just needed a CF. Add to the fact that Milan, their closest competitor, sold their 2 best players and the other teams were mostly rubbish, with van persie it was almost a given that they would win Serie A again and have serious chances at UCL. And then you have manchester united who went trophyless that season, couldn't get past the group stages of UCL and got beaten by Athletic on EL. It was a team who just signed Kagawa and ignored their serious flaws in defense and midfield. And this isn't even the point, my point was that even if United had a slightly better choice at silverware (which I don't think so) Juventus was a choice that didn't left him as a ungrateful prick.

PL > Serie A, ask it to 10 footballfans, 9 out of 10 will go for PL.
Maybe Van Persie is one of those 9?

We didn't go trophyless, supercup. And we lost the title on goal difference.
With Vidic (one from the serious 'flawed' defense), we would have won the title, no exceptions.

And those 'better transfers' isn't really clarifying.

I mean it's not that we don't hate them, but to most fans they just come as a mercenary-ridden side with no history that also wants all our players, while man u is a team every single arsenal fan hates, we have much more history of rivalry with them, we even hadn't sold a single player to them in the whole AW era. Rvp knew that and he still decided to go.

Nothing wrong with writing history, innit? Someone gotta go first

Heh, you just said it, who would respect a player who just babbled about his previous club and cashed out after a good season? I mean that was the whole point of this argument, me having to respect van persie, and you just listed some reasons why we I shouldn't. Add to that, that he slated the manager that stood by him through injuries, the problems he had with van marwijk, when he was accused of rape, the dutch fans saying he was overrated, etc. To me it just shows he is an ungrateful idiot.
Players like Henry, Vieira or Fabregas who gave their all and then left respectfully are the ones that deserve my respect not players like adebayor, nasri or van persie, that have a purple patch and believe that they are greater than the club.[/quote]
True, discussion was about this. Or it was about you wishing him some very bad things, not really nice.
But I've learned some things about him, I don't like it all that much but it's indeed hard to really dislike someone who's scoring important goals for your favourite team

 

[Flame]

Newcastle lose and Sunderland win. Delicious.

 

[ThatDudeWithTheFood]

What in the actual fuck?

 

[BlueStar]

No other manager would be allowed to get away with the way Fergie behaved today, must be humiliating to have a guy like that as the manager of your club

 

[lufere7]

Godammit, everyone plays except us I just hope tottenham lose, can't stand when they are above us
.

PL > Serie A, ask it to 10 footballfans, 9 out of 10 will go for PL.
Maybe Van Persie is one of those 9?

We didn't go trophyless, supercup. And we lost the title on goal difference.
With Vidic (one from the serious 'flawed' defense), we would have won the title, no exceptions.

And those 'better transfers' isn't really clarifying.

Nothing wrong with writing history, innit? Someone gotta go first

True, discussion was about this. Or it was about you wishing him some very bad things, not really nice.
But I've learned some things about him, I don't like it all that much but it's indeed hard to really dislike someone who's scoring important goals for your favourite team

Ah well, regarding transfers, United had just kagawa and powell by the time you guys signed rvp while Juve had Asamoah, Pogba, Isla and Lucio (who didn't turn out as expected but seemed like a decent transfer at the time) I think they were better transfer at the time, but this is just gonna turn in a huge opinion war, so let's leave it at that.
And I already clarified the leg-break was a joke, won't wish no one something so serious (like being hit by a football ) , and my intention was never trying to make you hate him or anything, just wanted to make my point of why I dislike him, sorry if it seemed the other way

 

[Flame]

No other manager would be allowed to get away with the way Fergie behaved today, must be humiliating to have a guy like that as the manager of your club

im sorry i cant hear you over the sound of the amount of trophies Fergie has won us.

 

[lufere7]

I just learned chicharito was the one that scored the winner for man u......
GODAMMIT CHICHARITO YOU WERE MY FAVORITE PLAYER ONCE.

 

[BlueStar]

im sorry i cant hear you over the sound of the amount of trophies Fergie has won us.

'Us', as if you're a Man U fan and not a plastic glory hunter that Man U fans are ashamed of. Fergie let you guys down today, once he fucks off one way or another the league will be better for it.