I'm not referring to the current situation but in a more generalised sense. I don't like lockdowns either.
Doesn't have to be that far, such things might not even come to pass. Could be less harsh than what is happening now though. Or might need to be more. Is the strain too much that outcomes change enough or is it just strained (one might say something being strained is closer to optimal usage).
Because history that the end of which is barely in living memory (the decline and end of the empire varies on dates but at the very latest of any real power was 1956 (the Suez crisis, so if you were 15 at the time you would be statistically brushing up against life expectancy) and more likely was done after world war 2 (so 1945) with it being in something of a serious decline for a lot longer, indeed the move to post industrial, computer age and radically different setup then something must happen today even if the would be populace does not care for it (arguably the more important metric)?
Hard sell that one, even more so trying to bill it as hypocritical.
the uk already had control on a lot of issues and the best deal out of any member country right down to its own currency and being the financial center for the eu.
There are 1.2 million illegal immigrants in the UK - a quarter of the entire total in Europe. Lets hope they leave the doors alone so this tiny island can cope with it's massive overpopulation problem.
Anyway, Sham, Brexit is good, but too little too late.
I'm not sure what you're saying, but southend hospital is now rationing oxygen.
Clearly relaxing lockdown in the next couple of months is not on the cards, if anything restrictions are going to be (necessarily) increased.
There are plenty of people who were alive during WW2 and thought they were reliving the fight against nazi germany when they voted to leave. There is a large number of people who weren't alive during WW2 that wanted to fight against nazi germany and voted to leave for the same reason.
MAGA/UKIP are the same kind of delusional idiots.
Yes, the UK threw away the best deal ever for one that will hurt fishermen & other exporters and importers because of some lies and racism.
The UK doesn't have a massive overpopulation problem. We could do with ditching some of the lazy UK born people though.
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Brexit was bought by the rich for their own gains, not ours & certainly not for all the reasons that were promised.
Tax evaders and racists are the only ones likely to benefit in some way, but racists will lose out in many others.
Billionaires can buy what they lost, it's a long term goal for them & if it turns out they were worse off then they have so much money they won't care.
Now It doesn't take a mathematical genius to workout the UK has 25% the population of the United States but only 2.5% of their land mass. THATS A PROBLEM.
Why is that a problem?
Racists have lied about the UK being overcrowded for years, it's not changed.
What's race got to do with overpopulation. I never mentioned race yet you naturally gravitate towards it.
I've already demonstrated why It's a problem, because England is losing It's natural beauty, I don't want to see our greenbelt destroyed for more homes when we already have limited landmass compared to other countries.
At this point I'm just going to assume you're being dumb on purpose and leave you to cry in your racist blackhole. I mean whitehole. I mean hole.
Because you talk about closing the borders to control population.
Don't have children & convince the other people who think britain is too full to do the same thing, if you're that worried.
I'm not being dumb on purpose, you're being dumb by accident.
I shouldn't have children and let them enjoy all the wonderful things my birthright of being born in this country and being a legal citizen has afforded me because you want open borders. You're insane.
And there you go by spoiling it, birthright is racism.
You think your children have more of a claim to live here, because you were born here. Which is just accidental, you didn't choose to do it. Your parents just happened to be here.
You're right in the fact It's accidental. It's a lottery and my children won the birthright lottery. Nothing racist about it, that's life. Try and make a point without race baiting and we can continue the topic.
It's not racist to be born, it's racist when you say that the country is full and the only solution is to stop foreigners coming here to protect it for your children.
A "everybody established here is good, let's go from here without adding more" is a different matter entirely.
Not really, it tends to hide a desire to "send em back to where they came from". Which we saw a lot of after the brexit vote.
And whether they are honest enough to say it or not, Britain prospered with immigration & leaving the EU is going to be worse for everyone except racists.
Now I have serious reservations over this whole leaving the EU lark (being a big block with at least similar red tape certainly has its advantages over being a smaller, potentially more agile, free agent all alone in the world) and that would even be with a competent government (not that I have seen such a thing in many years). Can't dismiss there being considerable potential upsides though.
Upsides will show when preferred trading partners are developing at a faster pace than the EU, which will benefit people involved in said trade. Also, those could be slightly different industries like before. But this should take more than 10 years to surface.I've been waiting for someone to come up with real upsides since the referendum, it's all just been half truths at best.
Upsides will show when preferred trading partners are developing at a faster pace than the EU, which will benefit people involved in said trade. But this should take more than 10 years to surface.
In the meantime, people on lower income, might have less foreign competition to deal with
The issue is - that all in all, automation still exists, and that for a certain time, the UK has become a less attractive place to invest in overall.
Sure, but you dont pay the EUs 'egality taxes' anymore, so in theory you are 'more nimble' more adaptive, can exploit labor more easily, .. If you have something, that you are especially good at, and that might be in demand in a growing economy somewhere else - you can drive that full force, and without taking other partner countries interests into considerastion, to a larger extent.And all the big markets are likely to go to the EU first, with better deals as they've already been negotiating.
Correct, I only talked about job competition for people in the lower income sectors. (If you were qualified over the rest, even at lower income, its still bad news. And overall depending on how much growth fulled your sector in the past, it might still be bad news.)Competition hasn't driven down wages, because immigration fueled growth. Getting rid of immigration won't have a positive effect, the economy is just going to contract.
Sure, but you dont pay the EUs 'egality taxes' anymore,
You've got the free market, sans and agreement for services - without paying too much into common projects (dont ask me the figure.. ) thats - something. (At the same time, relations with Scotland are deteriorating.. )No, but we don't benefit from the things that they funded either.
It's like deciding to give up your six figure salary and going on benefits, because you don't like paying tax.
You've got the free market