Hmmm... Gotta give props to Johnson for his handling of an impossible situation.

Yes, he technically asked for a delay in a letter. But it's just a standard template even without a signature. It is followed by a paper saying 'look... I was basically pushed in this situation, okay?', and then with another letter saying why he thinks a delay is a bad idea.

Sure, it's yet another delay by parliament. But I gotta give credit where due : he abides by the law without going down (in my opinion, of course).

 

Yes, truly pathetic. Corbyn needs big daddy Brussels to decide the laws in his country.
Anyway, I enjoy the this satire. May it never end (no pun intended).

 

A) What is wrong with genetically modified food, not to mention it is already present.
B) Is that a likely scenario upon leaving?

 

@notimp
If you cant be bothered to watch the Videos I cant be bothered to explain
It is not a Proclamation it is a spoiler for the EDF-EDU-EDA-PESCO.
Lisbon Treaty.

 

@notimp
Propaganda is a fabricated lie these are Facts.

Mentally Ill People... Dont even bother speaking anymore on the Subject you are clearly ignorant.

 

TRUTH!
Seek it!
GodBless

 

2min30 into your first video:

"Unfortunately the government seems to have seen the british military as a throw away chip in bargening, and effectively the government has commited us to numerous defense initiatives and indicated, that it will commit us into even deeper entanglement into EU defense mechanisms."

The leading question the reporter was asking was 'Has the british government done enough to use its military power to get concessions ('goodies') from the EU during Brexit negotiations.'


You my dear sir are a dangerous loon. So is that 'journalists position' ('Have you threatened the EU enough with withdrawing military cooperation for economic gains?').

Because your position is, that Britain should move agains Europe militarily, and you are willing to lie to see that idea fulfilled?


Now, lets look at your sources. In the first youtube clip, they use image material from Ruptly (they probably do it for legal reasons, because they are affiliated) - which is a subsidiary of RT - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruptly You are eating up russian propaganda, dear truth seeking sir.

Getting old generals, past their expiry date to comment on RT cameras... is - propaganda. For those people, because they might have a chip on their shoulder from when they left active duty - this is 'tha truth', but for RT it is something to 'produce reality' with.

Why you eating that up, sir?

Facebook victim?

 

Here are the initiatives named by the other 'left active duty' professor the Ruptly following journalist names.

European defense fund

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Defence_Fund
So thats a fund currently, not a deciding body. There is a world of difference. Also its part of the EUs CSDP - because even as of now, all the big military powers within the EU, are within the EU. So this is part of those agreements that now have to get looked at to either get cut, or are not at deposition.
Now - a european defense fund that aims at coordinating national investment to improve interoperability between national armed forces - is probably something that Britain has interest in staying in as well. Be cause if they are not - in Europe, a new larger army develops to which they have no insight in - and which could be antagonistic (opposed to) their military interests.

Why should you have to leave that for greater sovereignty? Because that old professor interviewed by an outlet with russian ties (seemingly) has said so?

European procurement plans

src: https://www.ft.com/content/272daf9a-ec49-11e8-89c8-d36339d835c0

The goal here is 'intercompatibility' if joint operations are ever deemed necessary.

Why should the UK have to break away from that for greater sovereignty? Because that old professor interviewed by an outlet with russian ties (seemingly) has said so?

There are not many armies in Europe. So who would you like the UK to cooperate in the future with, then?

Russia?

Would you very much want to fight another war against the germans?

Whats the goal here?

 

Anybody in this thread, please dont take whatever CORE posts without a bucketload of salt.

Not everyone posting youtube videos in here has any sense of the importance of source integrity, or simply not going with what RT tells you to think.

I mean, nothing against the russians, they werent dumb enough to believe the 'Voice of America' either, when it was broadcasting from west germany (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_America).

But CORE is, when it comes from the other direction.

 

The major 'contributer' to drive forward the narrative of this 'documentary' (which later resorts to having people read off policy legislature names off an iPhone, and putting that in as - certainly not PR) is Robert Oulds who is director of the Bruges Group, which is basically a far right think tank.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruges_Group_(United_Kingdom)#cite_note-26

The first google results for his name offer up political pundit spots on turkish (state sponsored ) television, and from a social media outlet called ''Scientists for EU" which - entertainingly enough is an anti EU PR joint, that holds donation drives at: https://scientists4eu.nationbuilder.com/donate

I mean - come on..

That truth, tha truth - those are the people bringing you that truth.

On message since 1988.

Thank you Baron Harris of High Cross. (I'm not making this up. )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Harris,_Baron_Harris_of_High_Cross

Baron of High Cross
Member of the Mont Pelerin Society
Founder of the Social affairs unit
Founder of the 'No Turning Back Group' and the 'Wincott Foundation'
Director of Robert Murdochs Times Newspaper company

Now, thats a life..