Texas now requiring everyone (with few exceptions) to wear a mask

[Shadow#1]

There are members of Texas government that are mad at Gov Abbott for saying this because he said it without any meeting with them (it is not a law as of now, it is just a strong suggestion from the governor really)

If it wasent a law then there would not be the $250 fine for not wearing one

 

[Jayinem81]

If it wasent a law then there would not be the $250 fine for not wearing one

Just googled it and "repeat offers could face up to a $250 fine". So I guess it is law.

 

[Viri]

Well, hopefully the rest of the US starts to embrace masks like Japan and South Korea. It'll make Flu season a lot less, um, contagious.

 

[CallmeBerto]

Well, hopefully the rest of the US starts to embrace masks like Japan and South Korea. It'll make Flu season a lot less, um, contagious.

 

[Xzi]

Just googled it and "repeat offers could face up to a $250 fine". So I guess it is law.

I'd hope so, it's literally a matter of life or death in Texas currently with so many ICUs filled to capacity. Seems like Arizona is somehow even more fucked, and I don't think they have a statewide mask mandate yet.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Sheep?

My bs alarm is going off.

I consider it being a good neighbor. You don't want to get others sick do you? Just wear the mask and we won't have to deal with another shutdown.

If I had to choose between pulling my ears off and hitting the peak a slight bit sooner, I'd go for the peak option.

 

[Xzi]

If I had to choose between pulling my ears off and hitting the peak a slight bit sooner, I'd go for the peak option.

What the hell are you talking about? If you can't stand masks with ear loops, just get a gaiter instead. It's also precisely because of this type of attitude that we haven't hit our peak yet, and we continue to set a new record for infections day after day. With good reason, the rest of the world is either laughing at us or pitying us.

 

[CallmeBerto]

If I had to choose between pulling my ears off and hitting the peak a slight bit sooner, I'd go for the peak option.

I'm more worried about hospitals being overwhelmed then your ears hurting a bit. As Xzi said just get a gaiter instead.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

What the hell are you talking about? If you can't stand masks with ear loops, just get a gaiter instead.

Explain how I'm supposed to pull that below my nose.

It's also precisely because of this type of attitude that we haven't hit our peak yet, and we continue to set a new record for infections day after day.

The same amount of people are gonna be infected no matter what. Are you trying to tell me that it's reasonable to create an end-all vaccine within a matter of months?

With good reason, the rest of the world is either laughing at us or pitying us.

For what, not being Orwellian enough?

One more thing: it's less about who's infected and more about who shows symptoms of Flu Bear. A large amount of people who get it show no symptoms. Yes, it's still highly contaigous, but most people who have it don't get sick, and thus shouldn't be factored into the equation. You're making this crap seem much scarier than it actually is by doing this.

 

[Xzi]

Explain how I'm supposed to pull that below my nose.

Errr...what? When not in use it hangs around your neck. Did you mean OVER your nose? Yes, it's a slight inconvenience regardless, but if you dislike a mask you're gonna hate the ventilator.

The same amount of people are gonna be infected no matter what.

Obviously not, or the US wouldn't have 4% of the world's population and over 25% of its COVID infections.

For what, not being Orwellian enough?

You clearly have no clue what Orwellian means. The disinformation campaign and the politicization of the virus by the Trump administration has indeed been Orwellian, which is exactly why we're in this bind and still dealing with the first wave of the virus so many months later.

One more thing: it's less about who's infected and more about who shows symptoms of Flu Bear. A large amount of people who get it show no symptoms. Yes, it's still highly contaigous, but most people who have it don't get sick, and thus shouldn't be factored into the equation. You're making this crap seem much scarier than it actually is by doing this.

It's exactly as scary as the statistics make it sound: over 135,000 dead in a matter of seven months, ICUs full to capacity in several cities and states, meaning doctors in those places have to pick and choose who lives or dies.

You're also pretending as if we have all the facts about how this virus works and what kind of damage it causes, when that is not even close to the truth. Some of those with minor or no noticeable symptoms later had damage to various organs (lungs, liver, kidneys) discovered in them. If the risk was contained to only you and your relatives I'd say have at it, but unfortunately your ignorance/stubborness causes a bigger risk for those who are taking proper precautions as well.

We're quickly finding out who wouldn't survive even ten minutes in a real zombie apocalypse/Fallout type scenario. All the "rugged individualist" Republicans have turned out to be the biggest pussies in the face of the most minor inconveniences.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Obviously not, or the US wouldn't have 4% of the world's population and over 25% of its COVID infections.

By the end, unless a vaccine is developed, everyone is going to get Flu Bear.

You clearly have no clue what Orwellian means. The disinformation campaign and the politicization of the virus by the Trump administration has indeed been Orwellian, which is exactly why we're in this bind and still dealing with the first wave of the virus so many months later.

Yes, because Minitrue is the only thing mentioned in 1984. Nevermind the total surveillance, thoughtcrime, and "freedom is slavery" shtick. It's almost like you haven't even read the book.

It's exactly as scary as the statistics make it sound: over 135,000 dead in a matter of seven months, ICUs full to capacity in several cities and states, meaning doctors in those places have to pick and choose who lives or dies.

The death rate has decreased; less than 800 people are dying per day. This isn't a pandemic anymore.

You're also pretending as if we have all the facts about how this virus works and what kind of damage it causes, when that is not even close to the truth. Some of those with minor or no noticeable symptoms later had damage to various organs (lungs, liver, kidneys) discovered in them. If the risk was contained to only you and your relatives I'd say have at it, but unfortunately your ignorance/stubborness causes a bigger risk for those who are taking proper precautions as well.

So you should know when you have Flu Bear before you get tested regardless. Good to know. Get this.. Masks won't protect you.

We're quickly finding out who wouldn't survive even ten minutes in a real zombie apocalypse/Fallout type scenario. All the "rugged individualist" Republicans have turned out to be the biggest pussies in the face of the most minor inconveniences.

A zombie bite guarantees your death. Not this.

 

[Xzi]

By the end, unless a vaccine is developed, everyone is going to get Flu Bear.

Some countries have already effectively hit zero cases, along with some counties in the US. You might as well go around town licking public toilet seats if you're already this resigned to catching it, but the rest of us will continue listening to health experts.

Yes, because Minitrue is the only thing mentioned in 1984. Nevermind the total surveillance, thoughtcrime, and "freedom is slavery" shtick. It's almost like you haven't even read the book.

It's almost like all of those are tools used by the GOP to keep you stupid and fearful, while none of those things refer to basic public safety measures recommended by doctors and health experts. What "freedom" exactly is taken away when you're asked to wear a mask? A number of states are on the brink of having to shut down again precisely because idiots can't be arsed to do the bare minimum to keep their communities healthy. That legitimately does mean a loss of freedoms, and it's a loss the citizens in those areas had the opportunity to prevent earlier.

The death rate has decreased; less than 800 people are dying per day. This isn't a pandemic anymore.

Oh gee, well only a third of a 9/11 in casualties per day. Sounds like it's all sunshine and rainbows then.

Get this.. Masks won't protect you.

Masks prevent the spread of the virus. If everybody wears them, nobody can spread it. Meaning nobody can catch it. God forbid you be considerate of your neighbors and they be considerate of you, right? Think I read something about that in a religious book once...

A zombie bite guarantees your death. Not this.

It doesn't guarantee immediate death, so there'd be plenty of idiots calling it a hoax and/or selfish assholes hiding bites from their group of survivors. You'd also be the type to refuse to wear a radiation suit in a Fallout-type scenario, as that's easily ten times more uncomfortable than a bit of cloth over your face.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Some countries have already effectively hit zero cases, along with some counties in the US. You might as well go around town licking public toilet seats if you're already this resigned to catching it, but the rest of us will continue listening to health experts.

Examples?

It's almost like all of those are tools used by the GOP to keep you stupid and fearful, while none of those things refer to basic public safety measures recommended by doctors and health experts.

Imagine trusting doctors that claim Flu Bear can't be stopped without masks but to even know if you have it you have to shove a Q-tip through your nose and into your brain.

What "freedom" exactly is taken away when you're asked to wear a mask?

Try talking.

A number of states are on the brink of having to shut down again precisely because idiots can't be arsed to do the bare minimum to keep their communities healthy. That legitimately does mean a loss of freedoms, and it's a loss the citizens in those areas had the opportunity to prevent earlier.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

~Ben Franklin​

Oh gee, well only a third of a 9/11 in casualties per day. Sounds like it's all sunshine and rainbows then.

This means only about 1% of all people who get it will die.

Masks prevent the spread of the virus. If everybody wears them, nobody can spread it. Meaning nobody can catch it. God forbid you be considerate of your neighbors and they be considerate of you, right? Think I read something about that in a religious book once...

You're also pretending as if we have all the facts about how this virus works and what kind of damage it causes, when that is not even close to the truth. Some of those with minor or no noticeable symptoms later had damage to various organs (lungs, liver, kidneys) discovered in them.

It doesn't guarantee immediate death, so there'd be plenty of idiots calling it a hoax and/or selfish assholes hiding bites from their group of survivors.

Yeah, sure, it wouldn't be instant...maybe five minutes...

You'd also be the type to refuse to wear a radiation suit in a Fallout-type scenario, as that's easily ten times more uncomfortable than a bit of cloth over your face.

Again, that's a much higher threat than Flu Bear, as touching the chemicals (or whatever it is; I haven't played Fallout) would definitely kill you.

 

[Xzi]

Examples?

New Zealand had zero confirmed cases for some time until an infected tourist visited, at which point they went up to about seven cases until all of those were again contained. There are six or seven (rural) counties even in Texas with zero confirmed cases as well.

Imagine trusting doctors

Yeah, imagine that. Everybody knows the REAL geniuses go into reality TV instead.

Try talking.

I don't have to try, I just do it. It's not hard.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Yet you still haven't listed a single freedom or liberty that's taken away by wearing a mask. This quote is also more appropriate when applied to the Patriot Act, which Republicans love.

This means only about 1% of all people who get it will die.

If I gave you a bag of 100 Skittles and told you one of them would kill you, and five of them would cause permanent damage to some of your organs, you wouldn't touch any of them. Anybody who's played DND or XCOM knows that these percentages aren't nearly as low as they sound.

Yeah, sure, it wouldn't be instant...maybe five minutes...

It depends on what mythos we're referring to specifically, but in most movies/shows/comics it takes between 12 and 24 hours from the time of the bite to become fully zombie.

Again, that's a much higher threat than Flu Bear, as touching the chemicals (or whatever it is; I haven't played Fallout) would definitely kill you.

Depending on the amount of radiation present, radiation poisoning can be a very slow path to death or mutation. Regardless, there's always a large swath of idiots in the US willing to spread conspiracies and disinformation about any topic.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Yeah, imagine that. Everybody knows the REAL geniuses go into reality TV instead.

I doubt the quacks are much smarter than TV show hosts.

I don't have to try, I just do it. It's not hard.

Can people hear you with a mask on?

Yet you still haven't listed a single freedom or liberty that's taken away by wearing a mask. This quote is also more appropriate when applied to the Patriot Act, which Republicans love.

Freedom of speech.

If I gave you a bag of 100 Skittles and told you one of them would kill you, and five of them would cause permanent damage to some of your organs, you wouldn't touch any of them. Anybody who's played DND or XCOM knows that these percentages aren't nearly as low as they sound.

Those hundred Skittles are contained in one bag.

It depends on what mythos we're referring to specifically, but in most movies/shows/comics it takes between 12 and 24 hours from the time of the bite to become fully zombie.

Zombieland.

Depending on the amount of radiation present, radiation poisoning can be a very slow path to death or mutation.

Slow, yes, but guaranteed.

Regardless, there's always a large swath of idiots in the US willing to spread conspiracies and disinformation about any topic.

You mean like CNN?

 

[Xzi]

I doubt the quacks are much smarter than TV show hosts.

"My ignorance is as good as their knowledge." Talk about Orwellian.

Can people hear you with a mask on?

Yes, my natural speaking voice is a bit louder than most. If you have to slightly raise the volume of your voice to communicate clearly it's not the end of the world, and it certainly doesn't rise to the level of freedoms being stripped away.

Freedom of speech.

Doesn't extend to endangering the lives or health of others. And as I've already stated, you can speak through a mask.

Those hundred Skittles are contained in one bag.

What? It's a 1%+ chance of death for EVERYBODY who catches the virus, so no, it's a new bag every time. Meaning a minimum of 3 million dead in the US if we all take your idiotic attitude toward this. If you're perfectly fine with that kind of death toll, we've got nothing more to discuss. You've managed to strip away every last ounce of empathy and humanity that used to live in you, leaving nothing but a pathetic empty husk.

 

[Chary]

The death rate has decreased; less than 800 people are dying per day. This isn't a pandemic anymore.

less than 800 people are dying per day

~800 dying per day

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that a ballpark of 800 human beings dying per 24 hours due to a virus is a pandemic, my dude. Even the flu, at its WORST, kills 140 people per day. Why are you trying to downplay people literally dying of an illness.

Try talking.

I've been on the phone, talked to store clerks, and yelled across the street at neighbors, all while wearing an N95. Everyone could hear me just fine. Unless we're talking about 102 year old ladies without hearing aids, I think a mask isn't preventing anyone from being heard. What's the point of going in circles over wearing a mask, when, okay, let's say, throw every study out the window, we don't know if it does anything. I'd still definitely take the chance to wear a mask to protect myself, man. I don't see how there's anything Orwellian about wanting to take every potential measure to protect one's family lol.

Anybody who's played DND or XCOM knows that these percentages aren't nearly as low as they sound.

Smh, you didn't include Fire Emblem in your example, therefore you're invalidated. Libs = owned.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

"My ignorance is as good as their knowledge." Talk about Orwellian.

Because it makes perfect sense to have to shove a Q-tip up your nose anf into your brain for fifteen seconds to know whether you have an illness do contagious that you have to wear a mask and stay six feet apart from civilization to stay safe.

Yes, my natural speaking voice is a bit louder than most. If you have to slightly raise the volume of your voice to communicate clearly it's not the end of the world, and it certainly doesn't rise to the level of freedoms being stripped away.

The first amendment also states that there can't be any laws keeping people from protesting unjust laws.

Doesn't extend to endangering the lives or health of others. And as I've already stated, you can speak through a mask.

I tend to always have a decent bit of saliva in my mouth.

What? It's a 1%+ chance of death for EVERYBODY who catches the virus, so no, it's a new bag every time. Meaning a minimum of 3 million dead in the US if we all take your idiotic attitude toward this. If you're perfectly fine with that kind of death toll, we've got nothing more to discuss. You've managed to strip away every last ounce of empathy and humanity that used to live in you, leaving nothing but a pathetic empty husk.

Talk about partial and idealistic. If you really think that pulling your ears off and piercing your eyes will save the world, have at it. But keep this in mind: humanity is doomed.
There will always be people with the Coronavirus who don't realize it. They will come out and bring the disease back into the mainstream. No disease has ever been eradicated, and a vaccine is highly unlikely this quickly. Perhaps the infection rate will drop to zero, but there will be those people.
If you want to believe that the death rate will continue to go down, like I do, then masks are useless.
If you believe that there will be another spike in deaths, then we as a society are screwed.
Maybe you think that means we desperately need to wear masks and keep our society lasting longer. I don't.

Actually, scratch that. https://www.foxnews.com/media/kayleigh-mcenany-cnn-hypocrisy-hydroxychloroquine
Turns out Hydroxychloroquine works.