Homebrew Team restores "leftover" DS Lite TV-out feature with CFW and circuit board

best crt tv hands down will give any pvm a run for their spec, these types of crts were not produced within the usa, this was bought from ramstein in germany in the late 80/Early90s, have not found another, you dunno how long I've been looking

 

Believe me I am still kicking myself for not buying up the mountain of 40+ inch widescreen CRTs with multiple component+composite+scart+RF inputs from charity shops when everybody decided the first gen of LCD* flatscreens were in and they were flooded with them and letting them go for "we want the floor space back" prices.

*plasma was always niche, at least until it to got silly cheap and several shops wanted to liquidate their stock.

 

That's a shame, I was really hoping for component/RGB support. I still don't get why the digital signal can't be converted into anything else besides composite, unless the digital signal already contains a merged chroma/luma. Once the project is finalized we'll hopefully be able to see a write-up of how it all works

 

I would assume the hardware is a dac (digital to analog converter) the soc probably has some extra hardware which would allow composite to be generated in software, probably some bit banging, the dac simply takes the digital (composite) and converts it to an analog signal that a tv decoder can understand, you can use bunch of resistors, however using a dac chip provides the best quality output wise, since it's buffered and cleaned a bit before heading out



If you can generate composite, you should also be able to do svideo

 

Looks like an older model.

The WIi still looks just as low res with composite. There's just noise added on top of all that like an overlay.

That seems to be the way to go anyway, especially now that you have affordable upscalers like RetroTink. Better quality and lower latency

 

I like @aadz93 , but I think it's just not the reality of things especially now. most things don't come with anything but hdmi out now like the nvidia shield, my dvr, etc.

 

I can go to my Walmart right now and get an lcd hdtv that has rf and composite, under $150


And there's always buying them online instead


Plus both 4k (smart) tvs are less than 5 years old, one is 42inch the other 60 iirc

 

Nitehack has shown a video of the capture card through a 3€ composite2hdmi upscaler and 10€ USB 2.0 capture card.

He has confirmed as well that the screen/modes are a SOC's hardcoded feature. So the modes shown in the previous tweet are the only available, and TV output was definitely a thing back in the day.

 

Sega used VGA on dreamcast in 1999

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do you guys have anything thats not wallmart, ebay, mc donalds? i mean do you have something that local people like you and me own, like small stores to buy tech and burgers?

I mean im curious, cause i always her wallmart, mc donalds, ebay and other BIG chains but never "local electronic store" or something...

 

For the most part no, not really. I have been going there (various states though mostly western) on and off since the 80s and usually staying for months at a time. The rise of malls more or less killed off the main street thing that other places in the world kept along with until somewhat recently, and catalogue shopping prior to that was none too kind to them either (though it is a model that makes sense there with everything being spread out and prior to phones and internet then hard to reach as well), now internet came for both of them and the big shops (walmart = asda, literally actually as they own asda these days, but with more non food items). Similarly the rise of suburbia where nothing so gauche as a shop ought to be seen in such a place (pick a place with a reasonable population on maps and see how far shops might actually be) means you are travelling and at that point the malls/retail parks have you.
Non chain/franchise restaurants do exist but where chains are usually the exception in Europe then not so much in the US, though it is changing slowly (much to the chagrin of the chains -- see "millennials are killing chain restaurants").

You get thrift shops (think charity shops but they were doing ebay prices decades back) even if a lot of those are chains. Local shops do exist though they are usually service based (insurance, real estate, legal, finance, dentistry, vets... you know the game), speciality (import food and the like), vanity (rich guy funds his wife's fancy clothes/books/bakery/antiques type deal so that it at least does not lose too much money) and maybe local repair shop that has a few things that customers did not pick up or they took as part exchange.

It is quite odd to go shopping in such places, though it does mean you get skip the chains after you do them once or twice and seek other things.

 

More tech write up on how this actually works

https://hackaday.com/2021/02/28/hidden-tv-out-on-the-nintendo-ds-lite/



Technical write up on how this works

 

The custom firmware for the DS TV OUT project is almost finished

— Pedro 🔰 (@pedro_javierf) March 2, 2021

 

Hmm. Do I have to polish off the toothpick covered in tin foil?

 

🔥Custom firmware for NDS TV Out finished 🔥 (no need to press the key combination neither open the homebrew for enable) @pedro_javierf @FNouwt @LostNintendoHt pic.twitter.com/iBXfINiyeQ

— Nitehack (@Nitehack) March 7, 2021

Unfortunately they won't sell the board, at least for now.

At the moment we have no intention of selling. You can build yourself or ask someone to build it for you, everything you need is in our repo https://t.co/lO3gYgRxsx

— Nitehack (@Nitehack) March 8, 2021

 

There will be an stream Saturday 13 22:00 GTM.

To wrap up this week for the NDS-TV-OUT project, we'll be streaming the installation process, chatting and Q&A on Saturday 13 at 22:00 GMT+1 (4pm EST) at https://t.co/g5dJaFT6SL 👈🔥 tune in, we'll discuss the upcoming CFW and talk about the project

— LostNintendoHistory (@LostNintendoHt) March 10, 2021

And they will finally produce the board.

 

i missed this sort of thing, these days it seems everyone does anything for the money, you never see people making stuff just because they enjoy making stuff

 

Metroid Prime Hunters looks pretty in TV . NDS TV OUT #ndstvout pic.twitter.com/DWT951wF4R

— Nitehack (@Nitehack) March 11, 2021