Hacking SX OS Exfat Support - Official update or modify nand?

[Rob Blou]

I installed the exfat drivers the unofficial way yesterday ... worked like a charm. The thing that gave me the most trouble was finding the Switch keys

 

[pLaYeR^^]

i mean in homebrew and hacking scene wise??

No, homebrew still works.

 

[KsAmJ]

No, homebrew still works.

well i am on 3.0.1 and i see this is a shitty firmware to stay on (not 3.0.0 with the cool stuff) not with the running capability for games of 4.1

i am seriously thing to update to 4 and stay low from a game cartage

 

[kamesenin888]

If you are getting the pro with the dongle, there is no need to stay on 3.01

 

[KsAmJ]

If you are getting the pro with the dongle, there is no need to stay on 3.01

you mean the dongle update the firmware??
i got the SX OS only and works fine except with the games requires higher firmware and i don't think TX will resolve this cause it mean emuland and they have no plans for it at the moment per their FAQ

 

[kamesenin888]

you mean the dongle update the firmware??
i got the SX OS only and works fine except with the games requires higher firmware and i don't think TX will resolve this cause it mean emuland and they have no plans for it at the moment per their FAQ

Oops wrong quote, thought you were the OP

 

[lieder1987]

I just wanted it to work well so when I got my SXOS I just went ahead and updated so I could use exfat without issue.

 

[LikeATrollFace]

I've been blessed by Nintendo, I got exFAT support when I updated from 1.0.0 to 2.0.0 on launch and haven't updated since

 

[GunzOfNavarone]

i mean in homebrew and hacking scene wise??

Executers SX OS works on 5.1.0, but if you're holding out for atmosphere and things such as coldboot etc, then staying on or lower than 4 is recommended.

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I just wanted it to work well so when I got my SXOS I just went ahead and updated so I could use exfat without issue.

I'm seriously considering it tbh. I am reluctant to stick with fat32.

 

[leon315]

Dont bother with the nand exfat implementation. As soon as you use SX OS you won´t be able to downgrade back to 3.0.2
People are just starting to find out that the SX OS also burns efuses.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/how-to-...ally-without-burning-any-fuses.507461/page-17

This should be more known.

what happens if switch burns ALL efuses?

 

[GunzOfNavarone]

what happens if switch burns ALL efuses?

It wouldn't happen. The Switch has 1024 fuses, of which 256 are reserved for firmware flags. That is a lot of fuses for firmware updates.

 

[Draxzelex]

Executers SX OS works on 5.1.0, but if you're holding out for atmosphere and things such as coldboot etc, then staying on or lower than 4 is recommended.

Just wanted to correct you that there are no other coldboots to be waiting for if you're not on the latest firmware. All of the unreleased exploits that work up to 4.1 are warmboots, i.e. loading a webpage.

 

[Thatcher]

Still in two minds about updating using the unofficial method. My Switch is 4.1.0 and I've got a 200GB card I want to use.

The only thing holding me back is the potential for a warmboot and the fact that Nin might detect the unofficial update.

I'm not using my Switch ATM until the homebrew scene moves a long a little so I'm in no rush.

 

[GunzOfNavarone]

Just wanted to correct you that there are no other coldboots to be waiting for if you're not on the latest firmware. All of the unreleased exploits that work up to 4.1 are warmboots, i.e. loading a webpage.

Maybe it was the way I worded it which is why I said holding out... I think Kate Tempkin has been a little vague on what is and isn't possible with her exploits, but from the sounds of things they're likely to be hardmods anyway. As for 4.1 - She's always said the lowest firmwares have the most vulnerabilities and she said that they had non-coldboot hacks up to 4.1 as well. Then over the last few days I've seen people mention 4.1 as the cut off for coldboot.

Anyway, it's all a bit irrelevant now because I think I'm just going to update. If I grow tired of using the jig, I can just use TX's auto rcm and then all I need to insert is the dongle each time which is hardly a ball ache. The only time I would need to bother with the jig is when a new revision of SX OX is released and given Nintendo's slow release window, it's not going to be that often anyway.

 

[Draxzelex]

Maybe it was the way I worded it which is why I said holding out... I think Kate Tempkin has been a little vague on what is and isn't possible with her exploits, but from the sounds of things they're likely to be hardmods anyway. As for 4.1 - She's always said the lowest firmwares have the most vulnerabilities and she said that they had non-coldboot hacks up to 4.1 as well. Then over the last few days I've seen people mention 4.1 as the cut off for coldboot.

Anyway, it's all a bit irrelevant now because I think I'm just going to update. If I grow tired of using the jig, I can just use TX's auto rcm and then all I need to insert is the dongle each time which is hardly a ball ache. The only time I would need to bother with the jig is when a new revision of SX OX is released and given Nintendo's slow release window, it's not going to be that often anyway.

Pretty sure this is the 4.1 exploit she is referring to since it reaches Trustzone-level exploitation which is all that's needed to load any type of unsigned code

Got some good news (sorry that it takes over a minute for the lennies): https://t.co/hGdPOchTVo

Anyway, I would strongly recommend not updating when new firmwares release.

— Michael (@SciresM) February 16, 2018

Also to add on, if they were hardmods, then they would be inferior to the current tethered exploit as it reaches the highest level of code execution (coldboot). Since the hardmod in this case is as simple as using a 3D-printed jig, any hardmod that is as simple or even simpler will not make the differences between the hardmods significant enough of a trade-off that you would use one for bootrom access over ones that achieve it later down the console's power cycle.

 

[GunzOfNavarone]

Pretty sure this is the 4.1 exploit she is referring to since it reaches Trustzone-level exploitation which is all that's needed to load any type of unsigned code
https://twitter.com/SciresM/status/964619151913336833
Also to add on, if they were hardmods, then they would be inferior to the current tethered exploit as it reaches the highest level of code execution (coldboot). Since the hardmod in this case is as simple as using a 3D-printed jig, any hardmod that is as simple or even simpler will not make the differences between the hardmods significant enough of a trade-off that you would use one for bootrom access over ones that achieve it later down the console's power cycle.

Maybe you're right... although she herself did say that some of her exploits were hardmods as it was in her Fusee Gelee faq. But maybe she's since given up on the hardmods in favour of this. Oh well, so to summarise, SX's is a jig and dongle or just dongle if you use RCM, and Temkins is loading e-shop and waiting for the redirect to inject the payload. Both seem as fairly straight forward as each other, although I'd say TX will be more supportive of their solution, given Temkin's virtue signalling tendencies.

 

[Draxzelex]

Maybe you're right... although she herself did say that some of her exploits were hardmods as it was in her Fusee Gelee faq. But maybe she's since given up on the hardmods in favour of this. Oh well, so to summarise, SX's is a jig and dongle or just dongle if you use RCM, and Temkins is loading e-shop and waiting for the redirect to inject the payload. Both seem as fairly straight forward as each other, although I'd say TX will be more supportive of their solution, given Temkin's virtue signalling tendencies.

I believe the other hardmods she was referring to were dongles that would automate the process of sending a payload rather than connecting the Switch to a second device via USB.

 

[GunzOfNavarone]

I believe the other hardmods she was referring to were dongles that would automate the process of sending a payload rather than connecting the Switch to a second device via USB.

Huh?... So similar to Executer's solution then? And if this was the hardmod, she would expect people to be able to construct this dongle themselves?

 

[Draxzelex]

Huh?... So similar to Executer's solution then? And if this was the hardmod, she would expect people to be able to construct this dongle themselves?

If you couldn't tell already, Kate is very anti-TX. So it makes sense why she would tout a cheaper/free version of whatever TX was dishing out. At the very least, its an option for those who have the capabilities should follow. In fact, there's a thread here on GBATemp where users got together to make their own version of the dongle.

 

[HtheB]

I've modified the NAND, I'm on 2.1.0, works fine on SX OS. No efuses are burned.