Switching from REDNAND to ShadowNAND?

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  1. musashi076
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    So I haven't updated my A9LH for months and I saw this so called ShadowNAND which can load without SD Card. I was originally using plailects tutorial of A9LH before (the one with the RedNAND tutorial) and i'm planning to switch to ShadowNAND. What guide should I follow? I saw the ShadowNAND github page and theres otp required. Should I need that again? I'm currently on Luma3DS.
     


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    i know it i used shadownand by myself

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    i wrote it doesnt need sd LIKE SHADOWNAND

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    sorry to say this but you didnt read @Shadowhand

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    and i only wanted to help
     
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    sorry my english is not good (my english grammar)

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    And dont judge me because my english grammar isnt perfect.
    I live in Germany and not UK like you. Eng is your native language. my native language is German/Turkish.
     
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    Now there are 2 solutions of SDless A9LH I know.
    • Use SDless Experiment Build of A9LH, following this guide but replace lastest A9LH files with the one @Cenk Akbaba posted instead. Since it's in Experiment state, it's has a problem with NDS game.
    • Use ShadowNAND, If I remember correctly, It's has it own installer. Use it instead of SafeA9LHInstaller and follow the guide here: https://github.com/RShadowhand/ShadowNAND
    Hope this can help you understand better.
     
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    i didnt have a ds game problem with it.
    i am using 3dsafe now.
     
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    You could also use 3DSafe.
     
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    3dSafe has Password Protection and inNAND CFW like Shadownand.
     
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    @Alex658 told me about this problem. I thinks it's only occur if you boot your 3DS with out SD/MicroSD or No Boot payload found.

    Never use one before since I didn't need to lock up my both 3DS. It's new to me that this one already come SDless too. :D
     
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    ok that may be true
     
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    It boots a .bin payload stored in CTRNAND. It's also bundled with a stripped down Luma to use for this function, since the regular version has problems with an absent SD card.

    Chainloading a binary rather than relying on a built in CFW seems to offer the most flexibility.
     
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    I have used the ShadowNAND installer and the Luma bin as boot.bin and I feel comfortable with it, I'll try v3 now :)

    Sent from my SM-J700M using Tapatalk
     
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    gonna try some of these. thanks guys~
     
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    Well, I agree that he's a bit rude this time. Just saying that his sentense is better than most you will see in Linux Developer Community.
     
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    @musashi076, use the newest Aurora Wright fork as linked by @Sora Takihawa. ShadowNAND was only copied from it anyway and there's no difference in functionality as far as I'm aware (happy to be corrected on this). Plus the dev is rude as you can see and the SD folder structure is weird.
     
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    In fairness, the OP's lack of punctuation made the sentence read the opposite of what the OP intended.

    (It also takes guts to just tell someone they're wrong like that. Am I a horrible person for finding this amusing?)
    The folder structure would be great, if more than just his stuff used it. I think I saw that he was planning on making it somewhat standard since it didn't catch on.

    Also, don't forget the added safety of ShadowNAND. IIRC, if the stage2 is corrupted, there's still a way to recover.
     
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    Doesn't @Aurora Wright help @Shadowhand achieving SDless boot, then @Aurora Wright took those code into her A9LH later?
     
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    Ah that stage 2 thing could be a good reason to use shadowNAND over AW's. I don't think the folder structure makes sense as there's more levels of folders than you need. It would be funny if someone forked shadowNAND and only changed where it looked for its files :P
     
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    Is the stage1 payload capable of booting some kind of emergency payload from SD? Is this unique to ShadowNAND?