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Technically, yes. They could dump the game, and if you would play the game at the same time, you'd be banned.

BUT, point is: The other guy would also get a ban as far as i've understood. So i don't think there is a really big risk...

Probably, yeah. Your best bet would be to ask the seller whether he bought the game new and if it was dumped at any point afterwards and, hopefully, they'll be honest about it. Nothing else you can do about it, I guess. Not sure if it's possible to check whether the game was dumped before or not.

Thanks you guys :) I ended up finding a copy of the game that was still under the nintendo branded film!! Considering most people don't really know about being careful with second hand copies especially in my country I don't think it would be a faked one so I ordered it :)
 
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I bought a replacement switch as my old one suffered multiple hardware issues and a corrupt NAND (some pages back).

Once I've modded the new device is it possible to rescue my saves from my old switch's SD card (which had a partitioned emmumc) and if so how? Is there a specific folder all my saves are kept in or are they stuck on my old switch? Do I setup my existing Nintendo accounts on my new switch also?

Thanks
 

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Hi Everyone!

2 part question here. I have a 512GB card in my switch and I am thinking of upgrading to a 1TB.

1) I am unsure of the max transfer/ read rate of SD cards in the switch. Having said that, what card is the best to get for it ( I do not want to pay for speed I can't use).

2) What is involved with transferring everything to a new card? Do I just re-install the exploit and copy files? Or just copy past everything?

Thank you!
 

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Hi Everyone!

2 part question here. I have a 512GB card in my switch and I am thinking of upgrading to a 1TB.

1) I am unsure of the max transfer/ read rate of SD cards in the switch. Having said that, what card is the best to get for it ( I do not want to pay for speed I can't use).

2) What is involved with transferring everything to a new card? Do I just re-install the exploit and copy files? Or just copy past everything?

Thank you!

Just get an A1 speed card, the switch can't handle A2 speed card, it just take longer to copy data from one card to another.
 

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Just get an A1 speed card, the switch can't handle A2 speed card, it just take longer to copy data from one card to another.
A1 it is! Thank you!


Next,

Does anyone know the best way to migrate from one card to another (hopefully I do not need to re-install games and updates, etc again.

Thank you!
 

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You have a hidden partition emunand?
I think? lol

I followed this guide https://switch.hacks.guide/

When I boot up on Hekate I see emmucfw and syscfw and sys as the three boot options if that helps.
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I think? lol

I followed this guide https://switch.hacks.guide/

When I boot up on Hekate I see emmucfw and syscfw and sys as the three boot options if that helps.
If there is any other way I can check that to confirm, please let me know.

Thank you!
 

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I think? lol

I followed this guide https://switch.hacks.guide/

When I boot up on Hekate I see emmucfw and syscfw and sys as the three boot options if that helps.
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If there is any other way I can check that to confirm, please let me know.

Thank you!

Check on your computer, with the SD card plugged into the computer, under computer management-> disk management if you have unallocated space, hidden partition emunand show up as unallocated space, if you have hidden partition you need to use emutool to convert it to file base then move it to new card and reconvert it back to hidden.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/emutool...r-sd-switch-emu-type-on-sxos-and-more.550756/
 
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Check on your computer, with the SD card plugged into the computer, under computer management-> disk management if you have unallocated space, hidden partition emunand show up as unallocated space, if you have hidden partition you need to use emutool to convert it to file base then move it to new card and reconvert it back to hidden.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/emutool...r-sd-switch-emu-type-on-sxos-and-more.550756/
Thank you!

I just found this - if I do not have a hidden partition, is it really as simple as drag and drop / copy/paste?

Thanks again!
 

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I bought a replacement switch as my old one suffered multiple hardware issues and a corrupt NAND (some pages back).

Once I've modded the new device is it possible to rescue my saves from my old switch's SD card (which had a partitioned emmumc) and if so how? Is there a specific folder all my saves are kept in or are they stuck on my old switch? Do I setup my existing Nintendo accounts on my new switch also?

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saves are stored on the nand/emmc of the switch, so in your case in the emunand/emummc partition. So as long as you have the emunand/emummc partition on/from the SD and the console keys, you can extract saves from there, even if booting failes because of other hardware problems.
There should be a guide somewhere here on gbatemp to extract save games from the Nand/emmc/emunand/emummc without CFW, but I don't have it at hand right now.

Edit:
I think it should be this guide
 
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saves are stored on the nand/emmc of the switch, so in your case in the emunand/emummc partition. So as long as you have the emunand/emummc partition on/from the SD and the console keys, you can extract saves from there, even if booting failes because of other hardware problems.
There should be a guide somewhere here on gbatemp to extract save games from the Nand/emmc/emunand/emummc without CFW, but I don't have it at hand right now.

Edit:
I think it should be this guide

The guide refers to having a NAND backup but in my case I backed it up back in 2020. Many of my saves won't exist back then.

My old switch is unable to boot into stock or atmosphere among it's many problems now. I wasn't sure if there was a method to just look on the SD card which has my Hekate/Atmosphere setup for my Emummc and copy saves from a folder
 

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The guide refers to having a NAND backup but in my case I backed it up back in 2020. Many of my saves won't exist back then.

My old switch is unable to boot into stock or atmosphere among it's many problems now. I wasn't sure if there was a method to just look on the SD card which has my Hekate/Atmosphere setup for my Emummc and copy saves from a folder
Yeah you'll need the keys in the backup. If you have the keys you can probably get in somehow. See more here:
Extract safe files from https://gbatemp.net/threads/extract-safe-files-from-emummc-backup-without-keys.634135/
 

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The guide refers to having a NAND backup but in my case I backed it up back in 2020. Many of my saves won't exist back then.

My old switch is unable to boot into stock or atmosphere among it's many problems now. I wasn't sure if there was a method to just look on the SD card which has my Hekate/Atmosphere setup for my Emummc and copy saves from a folder
Not sure if hacdiscmount directly supports mounting emunand partitions, but you can just extract the emunand via other tools from the SD, and it will behave the same way as any other nand backup.
So as long as you habe the keys dumped for the broken switch, you can access everything from the emunand and nand backups.

Also as mentioned before, the saves are on the emmc/emummc, so no easy way to just copy and paste them without extra tools.
 

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They got reports, yeah, but the research afterwards that lead to finding what is send is the important part, not the amount of reports. Just getting 10 reports could be enough, if those cover all ban sources we have on homebrew only switches. So do we need those 10 reports, or do we need the result, that telemetry got blocked? For me the result is more important then the way there in this case, and this is my point since the beginnig

No I didn't, in this post I explicitly said a lot, which is a big difference from most. 1000 out of 100_000 is certainly not most, but its still a lot. It was also to show to you that no research is required to install switch roms, besides just following a simple tutorial using an AIO package.
Point was, the user might not see installing as nsp the same as installing NSX/XCX or via other means to the home menu, while all of those are effectively the same. installers are also likely more problematic, since they are mostly for homebrew, so stuff that is detected much easier. So the survey should likely be updated to properly reflect people also installing XCIs, the added extra compressed types and installation from an installer. So maybe something like: "Did you install any backups or applciation to the Home menu (e.g. NSP, XCI, homebrew installers and similar)"


Even if we only take 10% of the 10% that deepsee has, that would still be 88 people, that's still far more people then I got from your document in the time frame since december 2018, that got banned from the eshop without doing something that is known to lead to bans. So only ~15% of those need to get banned and report their ban to create those numbers.
Those 88 people are also only from the newest version, if we take in account all big AIO packages over time and all versions of them since you started collecting bans, then we will get a lot more people.

I didn't ignore the people from after, I ignored the people from before the implementation of fatal, since thats a known easy to trigger homebrew only ban source from 2018. I also removed everyone that said they did something that wasn't safe and only kept the once since fatal, that didn't report doing somthing directly problematic, at least according to your spreadsheet.
And as mentioned, even then most of them still used layered fs (10 out of 13).
And even if we missed something, it would still not be just using CFW, and instead be doing something specific unknown, or having something specific but unknown happen.
I also find it unlikely that just CFW leads to bans, since not a single of all the modded switches I know got banned after 2-6 years of CFW usage while going online. If Nintendo had a way to detect just cfw and homebrew and also cared enough to ban for that, its unlikely they would keep them online for that long, since that would mean to keep people online they don't want online.

They got added 2019, so since then they are still relevant and should probably be added to the survey.
Someone might still report their bans, and not mention cheats unless they are actually asked directly for them. In this case its important, even if its obvious for most, since otherwise the data might be interpreted wrong. Also for the user its not always obvious, e.g. something like a 60 FPS cheat might lead to a ban depending on the game, but not be seen as problematic.
And yeah, the same is also relevant for save game modification, which depending on the game and how its modified can also lead to bans. Both are things that should be added to the survey.

My sample size of switches that are online for at least 2 years (with many being modded since 2018) in a homebrew only online setup is only 7, which is double of what I got from your survey results for people claiming not to do anything that could potentially lead to bans, or around half of what I got if we include layered fs mods.
I'm also not blindly trusting them, but first they reimplemented core parts of the system and reversed even more, which makes them a good source of the technical part of the system. Second, I haven't really seen people with knowledge of the system disagreeing with reswitched on technical level, only on non technical stuff. Still you are free to give me examples.

This also reminds me of a moderator of one of the pokemon wikis, who didn't trust data someone got from reverse engineering ORAS, because it didn't perfectly match the publicly sourced data. Even through this person previously worked on the cheat plugin, later also released an exploit for oras and was ready to propperly explain the assembly. Crowd sourced data brings us close to the truth, but unless you have ways to take and verify data directly, there is always an error rate.

Whats the problem with theorizing? People do it all the time, even you, when you say nintendo might ban at random and just cfw usage. Important is that is also communicated as just that, a theory, and that's what they did. They never claimed to exactly know how the chip worked, until they actually knew it. And while annoying, arrogance would still not make the info necesarilly wrong.
Also as mentioned, you are also still free to show me any person outside of reswitched group thats reversing the system, claiming reswitcheds technical info about the system might be wrong.
10 reports is a laughable sample size if you want to extend those results to the entire Switch hacking community which could easily be in the thousands. Furthermore, there is no shortage of actions that you can perform on a hacked console that there is no feasible way you can cover all of them on a mere 10 consoles. Couple that with how the scene has progressed over time, multiple CFW that users may have tried at one point, and games even having their own "rules" with regards to bans and I'm sorry but 10 is way too small of a number to even entertain that notion. I'm usually more of a quality over quantity kind of guy but this time, quantity wins out. And you just admitted that you made a nothing point that most users don't use AIO packages. Actually you made it even worse for yourself because now the opposite is true; since most people are now not using AIOs, they are doing the proper research because they are not being hand fed the info and tools to pirate. This you may disagree with me but majority of the reports came in before cheats were implemented. Only about 20 or so people reported anything once cheats were added. So cheats wouldn't have had a major effect on most of the data because it had already been reported by that point. None of those reports gleaned new information that we didn't already know; it reinforced info that had already been available. Also I hope you understand that just because your sample size reports different results, it doesn't automatically rule out other data sets. All it ultimately means is you have different data to report. Realistically, you would combine both data sets together to analyze any overlaps or gaps. If you don't believe CFW leads to bans, then you're just admitting that you're biased against information that goes against your beliefs which drops your credibility to basically zero. You could be lying for all I know just like the same hundreds of reports that you failed to disprove. The fact that you do not see the irony in your statements speaks volumes. It isn't a theory that Nintendo bans at random, it is a proven fact because not all people have been banned for undertaking equal, if not similar, actions. After all, even if we assume Nintendo bans in waves, they never ban everyone in a single wave so there is an element of randomness to it. Unlike ReSwitched who likes to assume their theories as fact until proven false which, again, does not earn them the respect from the community. Look no further than the massive number of developers that have left the scene for one reason or another. I never once stated their technical information was incorrect. In fact, you were the one who said that there is a chance that they may be wrong. Well, here is that chance.
 

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Yeah you'll need the keys in the backup. If you have the keys you can probably get in somehow. See more here:
Extract safe files from https://gbatemp.net/threads/extract-safe-files-from-emummc-backup-without-keys.634135/

I've had a look through my Switch folder on my SD card and could see my keys so have downloaded these to my pc.

Now that I have these I'm not sure what the next action is. I have the BOOT0 and BOOT1 as well as 15 rawnand files all dated 2020 but I'd want to access the recent saves on my Emummc on my SD card? It's the only decent size one I own so was thinking maybe I should save the contents to my pc as I'll be needing this for going through the CFW process from scratch with my replacement switch.
 

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Hello everyone!

Short story first: i sold my Switch two years ago as i could not stand the constant trouble with the CFW (Atmosphere at the time), finding shops, updating/not updating when getting a new game, etc etc. So out of frustration i sold it. Now i've heard about the Mig Switch, so on a whim i bought a used Switch. After digging deeper i heard that the Mig Switch is kinda bad (?).

What i want is a hassle free way of playing backups, cost doesn't really matter. What are my options?
 

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