Hacking Question switch 2.3.0 or 3.0.0 or 4.1.0 coldboot warmboot

[aak]

hi i need some help. alot of people have been asking for the same help

i am right now in 2.3.0 since 1 year (i have pokken to update to 3.0.0 but have not done it yet)

right now i just want to play skyrim and xenoblade chronicles 2 (3.0.1 and 3.0.2 respectively)

is it worth staying at 2.3.0 or 3.0.0 or should i just update to 4.1.0 (if no coldboot is coming out)

i dont want to do this jig and autorcm method because physical card reader gets disabled

is there some confirmation that coldboot will come out on 2.3.0 or 3.0.0 ???? because i do not want to wait only to find out that whatever method is coming out is also coming out on higher firmware eg 4.1.0 (like what happened with rejuvenate on vita and then henkaku came out)

thanks in advance

 

[Kubas_inko]

Try installing them through tinfoil and ignore FW version.

 

[Draxzelex]

There's no plans for an untethered coldboot to come out on any other firmware (the current exploit, Fusee Gelee with a jig and USB cable still qualifies as coldboot). The only hope was a possible exploit for firmwares 3.0.1 and below but no one is working on it. The only other exploit we have is Deja Vu which is a warmboot that will involve loading a webpage similar to using CFW on the PS4 which is confirmed to work up to 4.1 and can be made to work on 6.0.1 with some elbow grease.

 

[ombus]

Dunno about the cart but if you use the jig . cfw and homebrew you can update and then later downgrade. Do not blow the fuses if you want downgrade.

 

[ScarletDreamz]

hi i need some help. alot of people have been asking for the same help

i am right now in 2.3.0 since 1 year (i have pokken to update to 3.0.0 but have not done it yet)

right now i just want to play skyrim and xenoblade chronicles 2 (3.0.1 and 3.0.2 respectively)

is it worth staying at 2.3.0 or 3.0.0 or should i just update to 4.1.0 (if no coldboot is coming out)

i dont want to do this jig and autorcm method because physical card reader gets disabled

is there some confirmation that coldboot will come out on 2.3.0 or 3.0.0 ???? because i do not want to wait only to find out that whatever method is coming out is also coming out on higher firmware eg 4.1.0 (like what happened with rejuvenate on vita and then henkaku came out)

thanks in advance

Clean Nand Backup and set AUTORCM to avoid burning fuses.

 

[aak]

thanks for the quick reply

yes but i can not still play online if i use autorcm. also autorcm doesnt play physical cartridges

and this method again uses the jig and payload thing.

i am asking for future purposes whether 2.3.0 and 3.0.0 (the famous 3.0.0 we were told to stay on) is worth anymore.

because the same thing happened on vita scene. people hold out to rejuvenate om 3.18 and then henkaku came along on the latest version at that time 3.60

alot of people still have console on 2.3.0 and 3.0.0

 

[Draxzelex]

yes but i can not still play online if i use autorcm. also autorcm doesnt play physical cartridges

AutoRCM does not affect physical cartridges in any way, shape, or form...

 

[eskinner3742]

Use ChoidujourNX to update your switch without burning fuses. Then you can restore your rawnand backup to your original FW version. Did it from 4.1 to 6.1 and can confirm you can go back using your rawnand.bin dump when the time comes. Also make sure to do the bypass for the gamecard slot as if you update from below 4.0 to above 4.0 it'll update the gamecart slot making it unusable if you go back below 4.0

Here's the tutorial:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/how-to-...nofficially-without-burning-any-fuses.507461/

 

[aak]

sorry i mean the whole process of ChoidujourNX and autorcm makes the gamecard slot either update (burn fuses) or disabled so you can not go back to 3.0.0 or below (if card slot is updated)

which means the choidujounx is not a reliable method of downgrading (since gamecard slot isnt downgradable at all)

thats why the best option is to upgrade. but the issue is update to what best highest firmware for cold boot?

and is 2.3.0 or 3.0.0 worth remaining at or not

 

[Draxzelex]

sorry i mean the whole process of ChoidujourNX and autorcm makes the gamecard slot either update (burn fuses) or disabled so you can not go back to 3.0.0 or below (if card slot is updated)

The gamecart slot does not burn fuses. Its a chip that is completely separated from the NAND. When that gets updated, it just means you can't play retail cartridges on firmwares below 4.0. There is a way to prevent it from being updated but that prevents cartridges from being used on firmwares above 4.0, temporarily.

 

[Ratatattat]

The gamecart slot does not burn fuses. Its a chip that is completely separated from the NAND. When that gets updated, it just means you can't play retail cartridges on firmwares below 4.0. There is a way to prevent it from being updated but that prevents cartridges from being used on firmwares above 4.0, temporarily.

So if your original Switch firmware was 4.1 then we can assume your gamecart is also updated so you could never play retail cartridges if you updated to less than 4.0. and it would also be worthless on a OFW because of fuse level? You would have to resort to CFW to run less than 4.0 but still the gamecartridge would not work? Just trying to make this clear to myself.

 

[Draxzelex]

So if your original Switch firmware was 4.1 then we can assume your gamecart is also updated so you could never play retail cartridges if you updated to less than 4.0. and it would also be worthless on a OFW because of fuse level? You would have to resort to CFW to run less than 4.0 but still the gamecartridge would not work? Just trying to make this clear to myself.

In a nutshell, yes.

 

[aak]

so for instance lets say tomorrow coldboot releases on 3.0.0 and IF i am on 3.0.2 (using choidojourNX but NOT game card patch in other word letting the game card patch update)

that would mean i will be be able to revert back to 3.0.0 using nand backup but not the game card slot since it was updated.

also just read the game card firmware is on 4.0.0. so does that mean i can easily upgrade from 2.3.0 to any firmware below 4 using choiNX since game card isnt updated?????

in the end again the main question i am asking is there any hope for cold boot exploit for 2.3.0 and 3.0.0 only (exclusively) or should i update to 4.1.0 (or any firmware below it). to play super mario odyssey, skyrim and XC2

 

[ombus]

Dunno how it actually works but one can install from tinfoil with skip version check on game. I tried on 2.1 nit didnt work. Dunno if it had to do somethig with thw keys. Zelda did work. Other games had to update. You can dump cart and install it with version check skip.

 

[Draxzelex]

so for instance lets say tomorrow coldboot releases on 3.0.0 and IF i am on 3.0.2 (using choidojourNX but NOT game card patch in other word letting the game card patch update)

that would mean i will be be able to revert back to 3.0.0 using nand backup but not the game card slot since it was updated.

No you would be able to use the gamecart slot in this scenario because the update is applied whenever you are running a firmware of 4.0 or higher without the patch. 3.0.2 doesn't contain an update for the gamecart slot.

also just read the game card firmware is on 4.0.0. so does that mean i can easily upgrade from 2.3.0 to any firmware below 4 using choiNX since game card isnt updated?????

Yes.

in the end again the main question i am asking is there any hope for cold boot exploit for 2.3.0 and 3.0.0 only (exclusively) or should i update to 4.1.0 (or any firmware below it). to play super mario odyssey, skyrim and XC2

Again, current exploit we have is coldboot (Fusee Gelee literally translates to frozen rocket indicating its meant to send payloads via coldboot). But there is no sign of any coldboot exploit being developed for any firmware because we already have a coldboot solution that cannot be patched out via a firmware update.

 

[aak]

sorry i meant a proper coldboot solution you know like luma cfw on 3ds, henkaku on vita, redux on ps3 etc in which a jig isnt required.

also even in the case of the coldboot solution is there any need for 2.3.0 or 3.0.0 anymore or if it is released it will be released for all other firmware as well like 4.1.0 etc

example if someone is buying or selling a switch on 2.3.0 or 3.0.0 on ebay for cfw is there any reason to buy or sell one at all? or will a switch with any firmware at or below 4.1.0 work as well?

 

[Draxzelex]

sorry i meant a proper coldboot solution you know like luma cfw on 3ds, henkaku on vita, redux on ps3 etc in which a jig isnt required.

Luma CFW is not an exploits; its a CFW much like Atmosphere. The CFW has no bearing on how its loaded. There are plans to boot Atmosphere via the warmboot Deja Vu. Exploits and CFW are two completely different animals.

also even in the case of the coldboot solution is there any need for 2.3.0 or 3.0.0 anymore or if it is released it will be released for all other firmware as well like 4.1.0 etc

Would depend on how the exploit works, if it can be ported to other firmware, if homebrew developers want to port their applications to make it work on those firmwares, etc.

example if someone is buying or selling a switch on 2.3.0 or 3.0.0 on ebay for cfw is there any reason to buy or sell one at all? or will a switch with any firmware at or below 4.1.0 work as well?

Again, would depend on how the exploit works. If its software dependent, like the warmboot Deja Vu, you would need to pay close attention to the firmware and possibly the fuse count since fuses determine what firmware you can run. If its hardware dependent, like the current coldboot exploit Fusee Gelee, then you have to look at the serial number since hardware won't change via system updates.

 

[aak]

thanks yes that exactly what i am talking about. warmboot or coldboot with deja vu
for that whats the maximum firmware that we can update to without losing deja vu

also like https://switch.hacks.guide/homebrew-launcher-(installer) has 3.0.0 homebrew installer which is console and web based (no hardware required)

is deja vu warmboot just like homebrew installer 3.0.0?
is deja vu the only known warmboot?
also earlier this year and last year messages were posted on here, reddit and twitter to keep remaining on 3.0.0. Why was that message give? is 3.0.0 some sort of golden firmware like will some other exploit or cfw come out on 3.0.0?

because these are the reason alot of people are still not updating from 3.0.0

 

[Draxzelex]

There's no plans for an untethered coldboot to come out on any other firmware (the current exploit, Fusee Gelee with a jig and USB cable still qualifies as coldboot). The only hope was a possible exploit for firmwares 3.0.1 and below but no one is working on it. The only other exploit we have is Deja Vu which is a warmboot that will involve loading a webpage similar to using CFW on the PS4 which is confirmed to work up to 4.1 and can be made to work on 6.0.1 with some elbow grease.

 

[aak]

ok thanks. so this is a very big revelation and people are waiting to hear this.

you have a high level so can you post this latest information again in a new thread or a stickied bold thread so that

everyone can update from 2.1.0 and upwards. that way people can stop posting about 3.0.0 everyday