Piranha Plant better be banned.

 

items on? what blasphemy is this?

 

but several of those are extremely bad ideas that lead to very boring gameplay, timed battles mean that camping is rewarded as once you get a lead, killing time by camping and running away is a really, really strong strategy. I wouldn't be surprised if most people win just from, one or two kills. Any stages is also a bad idea, even with no hazards, as again, camping is heavily rewarded, (ie get a kill on hyrule temple, then head down to the caves of life and win because it's really, really easy to take over 300% and still not die with all the walls there). And walk offs are so easily abusable and can lead to kills off of a single grab (or even a single jab if you space well enough) at 0%, that's not fun to play or watch, even playing casually with friends with only OP items turned on at high spawn rate I try to not use stages with walk offs.

 

smart to make the qualifiers online don't want any hacked switches in the fray

 

I'm ok with items on although i hate items but 7mn timed matches are only a doing of the devil.

 

Why? He gets reamed by any character with a decent amount of range in their kit. I main Samus so that makes the plant super easy. Young Link is another one that rocks his socks.

I would put Plant in the noobstomper category along with K Rool and Dedede, though. It's just a matter of adjusting your play in subtle ways against these characters.

 

Serious players do care about the newest Smash thank you very much; And it's not even about serious play, it's not fun to spectate or be involved in a match that has one player chasing the person with 1 kill for 6 more minutes because of an obvious skill gap. The general tournament rules (not these rules) that have been in place the last several years are there for a reason, it's to make it an enjoyable competitive experience for players and spectators alike. I'll stick to going to my local tournament place where I can actually have fun without item spam, unbalanced stages, and no time limit. It's going to be a joke in PAX East.

 

Everything you said is correct and proves why allowing more stages and allowing items is a good thing. Having 4 or 5 stages that are all the same and with items completely banned is exactly what causes one person to chase around everyone else.

What's the problem with items being RNG? It's not about the items, it's about how you use them. You can't just pick up an item and automatically win. Some items give you a big advantage, and I'm not saying those shouldn't be banned, some of them are just broken. But banning items as a whole is just taking all the fun out of Smash IMO.

 

We're talking about competitive play here. On the high end, these are players that can combo you from 0% to KO. Items just become an annoyance at that point and get in the way of true skill shining through. Any RNG is always going to be detrimental to the competitive aspects of a game. On the casual side it's just fine.

 

I hate the idea that competitive play means banning fun. It shouldn't be that way and it's why I've grown to resent the Melee community.
And before you tell me, "that's not true", have you seen how many Melee stages are banned from competitive play? Can you explain why every single one is banned? Anything that's not a flat stage or a flat stage with a couple platforms in the air is automatically banned.