# Suikoden Tierkreis Undub Infos here

Discussion in 'NDS - ROM Hacking and Translations' started by Kerian, Mar 12, 2009.

# Suikoden Tierkreis Undub Infos here

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1. ### KerianGBAtemp Regular

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Aug 15, 2007
So, because I am certain this question will be asked in the next days:
Yes it is possible to undub Tierkreis. I created this post because people have asked in several threads already whether or not its possible to undub Tierkreis.

How to:
Thanks to GreenBanana who wrote detailed instructions on how to undub both the EU and JP versions. My old undubing guide can still be found below his. And yes, that's right- we are undubing the JP version as well! The reason? Undubing the EU version will not restore battle voices.

To undub the EU version:
Warning: Spoilers inside!

To translate the JP version:
Warning: Spoilers inside!

Outdated Undub instructions
Warning: Spoilers inside!
As you can see, it's actually not that hard... Enjoy the nice Intro Song and the original voice acting (which is also less compressed -> sounds better).

Now, I wonder why the Japanese Movies are up to 20% larger in size each compared to the E Version. Propably because of the Sound encoding, which sounds slightly metallic in the E version due to heavy compression. Btw it's a shame they dumped the INtro Song in the localized version. =O

As of now, undubbing will cause the audio to be out of sync as soon as you arrive in Magedom. This applies to both the EU and JP undub!
But fear not, our community consisting of gamers enjoying original Japanese voices in their games already worked on some patches to solve this problem. Happy day. Here you go:

Desync fix by tsol based on shinbatsus work:

Font fix #1 gukid. InGame text is now pretty pretty and easier to read. Yay

Font fix (a new font, easier to read) by AshenPhoenix. Appearently fixes the Heros name being out of propotion with the rest of the text...
Post with DL link for new font and instructions

Old desync fix
Warning: Spoilers inside!

Thanks to the all the people who posted valuable informations.

Also, not so interesting line in a batch file of the ROM, posting it anyway:
Code:
@echo off
rem misc ?????????????????????
T:\data\program\tools\dtarc.exe 01misc.dal -h arc_misc.h -c -o ..\rom\misc.bin
dtarc is a tool to build/pack the bins? hmmmm

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2. ### qwsedGBAtemp Regular

Member
Oct 23, 2008
What does:

"CODE
@echo off
rem misc ディレクトリは雑多な素材の格納に使います。
T:\data\program\tools\dtarc.exe 01misc.dal -h arc_misc.h -c -o ..\rom\misc.bin
dtarc is a tool to build/pack the bins? hmmmm "

mean?

NOTE: It doesnt work:/ ive unpacked both roms, backed up the english sound and took the same files from the jap version and put them in the eng map (same place), I then repacked it using dslazy and tried to run the game on my Acekard 2. I came as far as "language" selection screen then i got 2 black screens.

3. ### Tamachan4everNewbie

Newcomer
Feb 22, 2009
Dreamland
Lol just when I was looking for files that needed changing, thanks man

4. ### YumChanNewbie

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Mar 12, 2009
I have the same problem ^^,

5. ### qwsedGBAtemp Regular

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Oct 23, 2008
An undub version of this game would be AWESOME! Im just thinking of the bad voiceacting of the hero whom is speaking in 2352398235092835 miles per second

6. ### gukidAdvanced Member

Newcomer
Dec 15, 2006
Awesome! I seriously don't know how I'd survive without undubs these days.

Too bad this game is like a slap in the face to Suikoden fans. Anyone see the us "trailer" for this game? They pretty much slaughter the pronunciation of the game, both the Japanese and the German part.

While we're on the topic of fixing Konami's US mistakes here, does anyone know how possible it would be to inject a more readable font into the game? I'm thinking this would be a bit harder, but being able to differentiate between n's and m's would be awesome.

7. ### qwsedGBAtemp Regular

Member
Oct 23, 2008
Yep i saw it. But i think thats just an US thing (or english in general). Americans cant really pronounciate words hailing from other languages. (I peronally HATE english dubbings... real movies are good but cartoons/anime/games are really bad... Sometimes they get it right ^^ but mostly not).

Either way! How did you get it to work? Please explain I want an undubbed version too

8. ### Raven DarkheartThe Radioactive Flamer

Member
Aug 27, 2008
the town music is missing with this undub method as i already did the undub hours ago

9. ### pitmanAddicted to Magical Girls

Member
Jan 23, 2003
Where rockets don't fall.
I didn't copy the ds_data_hed.sdat from the "rom" and "ex1" folders and I got music in towns, menus but the world map is blipping
tested with a save in the second town

10. ### Raven DarkheartThe Radioactive Flamer

Member
Aug 27, 2008
im gonna use the dubbed version unless someone comes up with a perfect undub

11. ### gukidAdvanced Member

Newcomer
Dec 15, 2006
Which town music? I just started it, after doing that exact undub (there are repeat files, remember to replace the correct ones) and I have town music in the first town, house music... nothing seems missing right away.

12. ### Raven DarkheartThe Radioactive Flamer

Member
Aug 27, 2008
go further in the game
after the 1st town there is no town or dungeon music

13. ### EdragonGBAtemp Regular

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Nov 9, 2008
is it possible (against the rule?) to ask anyone to upload the sound file in (J) rom? (as my net quota a bit low )
thanks

14. ### gukidAdvanced Member

Newcomer
Dec 15, 2006
Maybe give it a try only replacing the _vow.sdat files and not the sound effects and music. The other files should be identical anyway, but strange how it's not working for some.

I'm pretty sure the sound files, even individually, would count as copyrighted material.

Update:
What town and dungeon are you guys having trouble with? I just finished the first dungeon and haven't had any stuttering or missings tracks. Which is good, because I'm actually really impressed with the music for the game. If it weren't for the english voices and terrible font, the game would feel really well done.

As I mentioned before, if you are doing you own undub, make sure you copy the files correctly. The 3 files from the root /rom/ of the japanese version into the /rom/ of the us, and the 3 sound files from the japanese /rom/ex1/ to the us /rom/ex1/ folder. Don't copy the same sound files over twice by accident.

15. ### mgsfanMember

Newcomer
Oct 27, 2004
replaced the files noted and everything is working fine so far..past the first dungeon and into the northern forest atm

16. ### AmiciGBAtemp Regular

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Aug 5, 2006
Manila
So is this undub working fine as it is? No problems?

17. ### RedCloudAdvanced Member

Newcomer
Oct 31, 2008
hmm the method's a bit troublesome.....
It'll be great if someone releasing a patcher for this....(again...selfish wish..... )

18. ### mgsfanMember

Newcomer
Oct 27, 2004
so far for me its working perfectly atm following the instructions posted

19. ### Harima-SanMember

Newcomer
Nov 3, 2008
If i have knew that there is a guide...but i do it myself (because english voices suck) and it works !

With japanese voices and sounds, the game is perfect !

But i didn't do this :
Code:
@echo off
rem misc ?????????????????????
T:\data\program\tools\dtarc.exe 01misc.dal -h arc_misc.h -c -o ..\rom\misc.bin

20. ### mrfatsoThat guy!!

Member
Apr 17, 2008
@Your Home,behind the sofa
and by the way guys, the new game id for this if i did this correctly is: YG4P 708D8241