Studying in University/Career (UK ONLY)

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Aug 2, 2012
  1. ShawnTRods
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    Hey guys :)
    So this could be possibly another blog but you get more helpful responses and more responses in generally in this section.

    I quit University.. I just didnt feel like doing the BSc that I was doing.
    Now, I am interested into continue studying of course!
    I want to get into Professional Web Designing(or a good IT related degree)
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    Health Care.(lol I know, wide and different choices :P)


    However, I have no idea what courses I am eligible to do and what courses are available to me. Back when I first started, the teachers sorted out everything from sixth form -.- Online course guides on Universities arent helping me much. I need some sort of 1 to 1 guidance.

    Any suggestions, or ideas what I can do?
     
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    I guess a good start would be what qualifications do you already have and work from there.

    I have a BA so I have no experience about IT or healthcare.
     
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    I have got GSCE's and A-Level(shit grades in A-level -.-, went through foundation year to do Bio-Science...)
     
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    how far into course where you?

    you may struggle getting in do to pulling out
     
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    just done second year, in my mind I already quit last year. This year was just horrible and with all the dramas things arent so easy.

    I probably wanna move to Birmingham or somewhere else.
     
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    If your grades aren't too great you could try to get into college for a year or two in IT. With that you could apply to uni for computer science or something in that area. I would assume 2 years of Bio-Science would get you into health care directly. You'd need to check that out yourself though.
     
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    well first get what you have earned from current course as that will boost points
    any classes completed will also be able to pass on if you go for another
     
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    Edit- missed a lot of the conversation but it seems some of the blanks have now been filled and I might have said something useful so I will leave it.

    For my money "Professional Web Designing" and "a good IT related degree" are very very rarely the same thing not least of all because web stuff now seems to have moved somewhat back towards conventional programming (see CGI, .net, databases and I guess some Java for the really good stuff let alone the likes of Django). My usual advice for IT of find something in a maths department, an electric engineering department, maybe physics (most seem to have dropped physics IT) or choose a general IT course very carefully (BSc or BEng is a given but still not a guarantee) still stands though.

    You say you quit- the question then is when did you quit in terms of how far into the degree? If you quit a few months in then probably back to A levels and entry via that but if you made it two years* or possibly even the one year and have something to show for it then changing courses is quite possible. If you can do that walk in with that (possibly brushing over your quitting and say I took a leave of absence and decided to transfer or something), afraid I have no idea as to how things you might already have done might transfer/count towards something else; I run away screaming whenever someone tries to explain American higher education and the UK stuff is not a lot better there. Basically assuming you do not need something really specific (a language course will probably assume you are either native or have done a few years prior for instance) or are going into something really hotly contested and maybe as long as you have something in what you want to do (something science based for science subjects....) if you can prove you can handle university grade academia your A levels might be barely a formality or even worthless bits of paper in light of your previous study.

    *depending upon the course you might even have left with or be eligible for a certificate of some form; some will give you a degree without honours for passing the second year and others will give you a certificate of higher education if you made it the first year. I will note it may trouble your ability to get another/further student loans but I bow out here for those purposes as I know enough just to keep myself out of trouble there and do not feel confident to give advice on the matter. You will however almost certainly be starting at year one and your eventual student loans might end up quite high as you will have done however many years for the new one plus the old one but at least this is not America.

    Finally health care as you say is incredibly wide and most departments with the possible exception of undergrad law and English will have something to say nothing of the wide selection of pure/straight up medic courses. To this end I would try to narrow it down a bit between clinic stuff, labwork, research, medical secretary is still a thing and it is probably worth noting if you want to twist it towards standard medical, mental health or more towards social work (although social work and mental health do quite often fall under the same umbrella).
     
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    Thanks for the responses guys :)

    @FAST6191
    Thanks for the detailed reply :). I dont think my current progress is going to help me in any way, considering I havent done too well. Personal life has been horrible after A-level. But I feel ready to move on with life!
    So, I would rather start something fresh than continue on from where I am, as I dont see myself getting any help from that.
    IT and Healthcare are both my favourite choices. clinic stuff, labwork, research, medical secretary, everything appeals me pretty much.
    On the other hand, I always loved IT related stuff.. its just no one backed me up when I said I want to do IT/Computer Science.
     
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    "considering I haven't done too well"
    I do not know what your percentages are for grading but if you had continued the way you had and would have got even a third I would seriously consider mentioning it when applying/in interview (do it right and if the personal stuff is not likely to be petty nonsense in their eyes* that would not hurt); it is not that you already know part of a subject but that you can deal with university itself is what the would be interviewer will be looking for and that it would be the second year means that is even better (first year is usually so much getting everybody up to speed). Think back to how many people dropped out after a few weeks, after the first Christmas/exams and then those that did not come back for the second year because they could not hack it and I bet a few of those did stunningly at A level and likewise how many people that got on well despite not caring for the A level system.

    *I broke up with my significant other probably does not count but someone getting seriously ill/dying or serious financial strain on families and you still managing to get something done counts for an awful lot.


    "When I said I want to do IT/Computer Science".... I have yet to see a high school that can reasonably claim a good option for IT let alone appreciating what it can do when taken a bit further so I would not read too much into that. Oh and if you had not figured it out already (and the tone of your posts says a meeting with one of your former advisors would probably end in your delivering a headbutt) school careers/university guidance types are so very rarely any good.

    Medic wise if you are really not sure what you want I would possibly consider doing a year of nursing training (my preference there would be towards the academic nursing degree options but that is preference rather than something to be considered solid advice) as there are serious options to branch from there although that probably means another year of student loan (this said there are some serious grants for nursing) although you will probably have to pick between mental health and medical. There is also the likes of operating theatre technician but I do not know how you would branch/move up from there.

    IT wise there is little for general training that leaves a vast array of options open after a year or so but for the most part the first year will be similar so you might have to promise to read a book if you find another specialisation but you can probably switch up there as well, this will depend upon the university you pick though as they might not have so many options.

    Combining the two... medical imaging I guess spent a lot of time doing IT and electrical engineering on top of the medical stuff although I do not know off hand how far that goes into the clinical side of things.

    Edit- can not believe I had to include it in a second post and I do not have anything I can vouch for medicine wise but IT wise watch say this video series and that will probably give you a reasonable indication of what IT will be like (assuming you have the time if you have watched a few in a row instead of getting dinner or something then signs are good).
     
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    Wow, as always you put the research and effort :). Firstly, it wasnt just break up that caused the depression and huge fallback in life. It was what triggered things but not blaming all on that.
    Lets say I "passed" my exams. I had to do a lot of resits last year and got resits to do.

    Nursing sounds like a good idea. It can lead you further into other courses right? I have heard of people going into Medicine after nursing o.o Could be bluffing but thats interesting.

    Wow that video is long :D I guess I know what I am doing tonight :P

    Thanks a lot for your reply mate! It is giving me more ideas and leading me to think at least.
     
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    Postgrad entry into Medicine is certainly possible with Nursing (would takes ages though). It does lead into a lot of other biomedical areas as well.
     
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    IT DOES!?
    8-10 years I bet?
     
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    Going by the Scottish system that would take 9 years for your MBChB. You can skip into year 3 with certain degrees like Dentistry (at least at Glasgow uni)
     
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    I have seen nursing to other stuff although whether that means Dr ShawnTRods other than perhaps Doctor/professor of Nursing (which is more teaching than actual practice of medicine) or something in management (at least in mental health there are noises about some interesting PhD programs coming down the pipe) is a different matter- trying to get beyond nurse practitioner is bloody hard though even if I have seen it done (as The Pi said it would take ages) not to mention there are options for specialisations there; I was taught wound care by a nurse and there are all sorts of little things like that as well as some diagnostics for as with most professions it is nothing like it is on TV. If you do decide running panels and staring down a microscope* (which is fascinating) is more your thing there are options from there although I am not entirely sure what they would be right now (been about 4 years since I have seen a UCAS book or a medical training courses handbook/overview and things have got weird these last 5 years or so let alone trying to figure out what each trust is about these days) and how you would pursue it after your year or two.

    *that you did not dismiss it outright probably says things.

    As for what you have done much like you probably had to talk up your GCSEs to get into A levels and your A levels when trying to get into university and then could promptly more or less forget everything and learn what really goes (or at least what really goes at that level) it works the same here. More than that and as you probably have spent the last few years finding out university is not school and that really does not sit for some people which in turn tanks various stats (and quite often they love their stats). Basically it is interview nonsense and as distasteful as I find interview nonsense not playing the game does not make you the bigger man.
     
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    I am going to contact universities individually before the clearings start lol
     
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    Have you already told them you're quitting? If you discuss it with them your current university might help you transfer to a different course. I failed the first year and mine gave me a few options including helping me transfer to a different uni to start the same course over, but I don't know how common that is. I'd expect most might consider letting you transfer to a different course at the same place though if you can give a good enough reason. Or if your university has a Careers Service they may be able to give you advice outside of contacting your tutors,

    Definitely thumbs up for you not giving up entirely though; sometimes a change of scenery and getting your head in the right place is exactly what you need. Continuing at a different uni was one of the best decisions I ever made :)
     
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    Cheers mate. I definetely need to sort this out before the A-level results come out. Clearings will make my life a lot tougher and I may not end up getting a place somewhere lol.
    This week I am busy, but I am still trying to contact universities. Spoke to my tutor and he was just being a dick -.- so I will try general office.
     

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