Students Asked To Leave Multicultural Room For 'Police Lives Matter' Sticker

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All lives matter so to that extent no one really matters.

Just worry about yourself and those you care about, that's all that should matter in the end. I just miss the days when people were not at each other's throats about "what should matter" in our world today and to ourselves.

Plus who the hell knows with those supporting Police, maybe they have family that are in the force and support them. Not everything is as black and white as what these simple minded people and media outlets like to paint things as anymore. Its just arrogance and ignorance masquerading as insightful and progressive.


On the flip side I also do not agree with the idea of a “Multicultural Space”. Does this not lead to the kind of segregation that BLM and similar causes are very much trying to eradicate? You want “Multiculture Spaces” with the idea of exclusive area for people who are not white, but then make comments that “Reverse Racism is not a thing”? I really do not understand this logic, somebody care to explain?
Its already been a thing for awhile now. The end results of the protests rather than society changing endevors for the betterment of everyone has instead resulted in just acting/voice acting roles to be segregated by colour/sex now. Its why your current animated TV show switched up some VA's recenty to avoid backlash. But ultimately while on paper its a nice idea for a black person to voice a black character on TV, the reverse can be true making it so that anyone regardless of voice talent will be restricted to only voicing those who match their nationality and/or sex. Its a flawed concept that is going to cause more problems than good in the long run. People are just too narrow minded to see how its all going to pan out in the end.
 

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The man: yeah, wow, what a nice and quite place to study, let's do homework.
Crystal Gem: YOU ARE OFFENDING ME BY EXISTING
Imagine how the Nazis felt. /s

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Multicultural space does not lead to segregation, looking down on POC and seeing them as inferior leads to segregation. If you can't be educated enough to see that someone who says "All lives matter" should be open to learning about other cultures, maybe you're the narrow minded one?
 
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what is wrong with America?
You mean I cant wear my NAZI uniform in a jewish Community center.
OR Black face in the Slavery and Emancipation Museum?

man who would of thought that having items associated with Rascism would have a negiative effect.. especially knowing what the item represents but playing it off as its not?
 
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what is wrong with America?
You mean I cant wear my NAZI uniform in a jewish Community center.
OR Black face in the Slavery and Emancipation Museum?

man who would of thought that having items associated with Rascism would have a negiative effect.. especially knowing what the item represents but playing it off as its not?
Imagine having 99% of the entire school in which to study competently, and you choose the one place you know your sticker will cause a scene at so you can whine about white culture and how your parents failed you financially.

I wonder how those poor Polish people feel when the kids slap hammer & sickle and Swastika stickers on their laptops and proceed to brazenly "study" out in the open.

I guess someone should tell them to get over it, huh?

Edit: inb4 the obligatory "but they're not the same!" defense argument
 

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Imagine having 99% of the entire school in which to study competently, and you choose the one place you know your sticker will cause a scene at so you can whine about white culture and how your parents failed you financially.

I wonder how those poor Polish people feel when the kids slap hammer & sickle and Swastika stickers on their laptops and proceed to brazenly "study" out in the open.

I guess someone should tell them to get over it, huh?

Edit: inb4 the obligatory "but they're not the same!" defense argument
people want to cry Freedom but don't understand consequences. Your Free to ignore the Rasicist undertone of what your doing but the by Practicing that Freedom you also inviting the consequences.. be it 1)being Ostracized. 2)publicly confronted or 3) having someone punching a NAZI in the face...
lol the new NAZI SLOGAN . " Reserve the Right to be punched in the face"
 

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Or they want freedom but only for their ideals. At least with multi culturalism, the idea is that every culture is influential and important, as opposed to what America preached before 50 years ago
 

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Imagine having 99% of the entire school in which to study competently, and you choose the one place you know your sticker will cause a scene at so you can whine about white culture and how your parents failed you financially.

I wonder how those poor Polish people feel when the kids slap hammer & sickle and Swastika stickers on their laptops and proceed to brazenly "study" out in the open.

I guess someone should tell them to get over it, huh?

Edit: inb4 the obligatory "but they're not the same!" defense argument
Oh yeah, too bad there isn't other ways too confront these kind of actitudes that are not violent by itself, like I don't know, just ignore him as long as they don't do something extrema like paint on the walls or physically disturbs the people in that place, there was no need for all of what happened, you can even film him, that's Ok, and then give him a warning, "if we see you again with that sticker we are going to report you, we don't want that bullshit in our special space, we can let you be here as long as you don't cause any fuss. You've been warned." Done, not so agressive, not so much troubles, but first thing people that want to complain is trhow a tantrum, that's not okay.
 

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Last year during the election, someone made a post on this website. The guy was obsessively bragging about biden winning. The way he typed, it was clear he was from african american background. This may be news to some but people around the world can tell from certain cues as to who is speaking sometimes.

I engaged in a discussion but it became so stupid and at one point he was throwing around silly insults which americans from such a background usually do that I stopped responding. With what is going on in america I wonder today how this guy is justifying the biden presidency.

Anyways I digress, when I saw the headline I thought to myself "I bet a caucasian person was kicked out and the person doing the kicking out was either female or black". Well.

P.s: I am actually african so lay off please. Just stating my opinion. Then again, in america that's the biggest infraction.
 

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Oh yeah, too bad there isn't other ways too confront these kind of actitudes that are not violent by itself, like I don't know, just ignore him as long as they don't do something extrema like paint on the walls or physically disturbs the people in that place, there was no need for all of what happened, you can even film him, that's Ok, and then give him a warning, "if we see you again with that sticker we are going to report you, we don't want that bullshit in our special space, we can let you be here as long as you don't cause any fuss. You've been warned." Done, not so agressive, not so much troubles, but first thing people that want to complain is trhow a tantrum, that's not okay.
I concede that point. They should of handed it a better. But we also don’t know the context (maybe not the first time that him or people purposely go there with the intention of displaying stickers or signs with racist overtones )
 

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I also agree that things could have been handled differently. When politely asked to leave, and then ignored, the proper thing would more than likely have been to get in contact with an official that's better equipped to handle these things. On the other hand, the white students could have also acknowledged that they had offended the students in the one multicultural room they have in the entirety of the school and done something as simple as covering the offensive sticker if they were that adamant to stay.

The problem with that argument is that you're (indirectly, I'll assume) invalidating the stance and importance behind getting the multicultural center in the first place, and (also indirectly, I'm assuming) implying that the aggressor to any situation, in this case the white students with their blatant disregard for offense, should be more validated than the offensed simply because you disagree with the ideals of the offended.

Could the POC handled things better? Of course. But when confronted with blatant disregard and obvious attempt at offense, why should they have to be the bigger person? At some point we're not arguing ethics anymore, we're arguing audacity
 
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why should they have to be the bigger person?

This is the crux of the matter. Do people want actual equality or just revenge? Being the bigger person is the most difficult path but it also holds the most rewards. Compassion and understanding is the best way to defeat ignorance in my opinion. I'm blanking on the name of the gentleman right now, but he is well known for converting KKK and other white supremacists by befriending them.

Ahh, yeah Daryl Davis.
 

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It's difficult to navigate, because often times education can seem like revenge, especially concerning the circumstances that preceded such education. I'm constantly torn between ideologies like that of Malcolm X and MLK Jr, and not even just from a racial or civil perspective. Like, I completely agree with you in most aspects, but I also know that, realistically, some people just aren't worth the compassion they're given.

It's a sad state of society. I wish we had more people like Daryl Davis, so the other mentality wouldn't have to even be entertained.
 

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That's racism against white people as a whole. We have many cultures and just because we're from Europe does not mean we think we're better than everyone else. That is racism.
God, I hope it is. After all these years, it's about time we know how it feels to be discriminated against because of the color of our skin.

Please, elaborate. How is this racism?
 

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God, I hope it is. After all these years, it's about time we know how it feels to be discriminated against because of the color of our skin.

Please, elaborate. How is this racism?
Replace the word white with black and Europe with Africa if it sounds racist at that point, it is. A great test is to change the color and if all of a sudden it becomes racist to you... You may want to do some hard thinking.
 

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Replace the word white with black and Europe with Africa if it sounds racist at that point, it is. A great test is to change the color and if all of a sudden it becomes racist to you... You may want to do some hard thinking.
You right.!! If we do it against White people its racist and we need to stop it. . if we do it toward minorities, They just need to accept our view!!
 

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You right.!! If we do it against White people its racist and we need to stop it. . if we do it toward minorities, They just need to accept our view!!
That's completely wrong, how you did the mental gymnastics to come up with that load of crap I will never know. Also hate to break it to you... White people are in the minority on this planet as well as most races lol (Asians are the vast majority) so maybe do a bit more thinking.
 
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I also agree that things could have been handled differently. When politely asked to leave, and then ignored, the proper thing would more than likely have been to get in contact with an official that's better equipped to handle these things. On the other hand, the white students could have also acknowledged that they had offended the students in the one multicultural room they have in the entirety of the school and done something as simple as covering the offensive sticker if they were that adamant to stay.

The problem with that argument is that you're (indirectly, I'll assume) invalidating the stance and importance behind getting the multicultural center in the first place, and (also indirectly, I'm assuming) implying that the aggressor to any situation, in this case the white students with their blatant disregard for offense, should be more validated than the offensed simply because you disagree with the ideals of the offended.

Could the POC handled things better? Of course. But when confronted with blatant disregard and obvious attempt at offense, why should they have to be the bigger person? At some point we're not arguing ethics anymore, we're arguing audacity
It has to do with ethics a lot, and It's alway better to be the bigger person, you shouldn't be an asshole to a person just because some other people did to you when you was young. that's prejudice, and I think that was the base of antiracism don't justge people because their race, or their culture.
God, I hope it is. After all these years, it's about time we know how it feels to be discriminated against because of the color of our skin.

Please, elaborate. How is this racism?
hmm let's see, ok, let's say "In this establishment, just white people are permited, if you are not a white man you can't enter here, the workers are instructed to serve coffee only to white people" now change it for black and now all It's ok, right?, there's nothing bad, because latins, black people or women can't be the bad people ever, they are always good people, right?... All kind of discrimination should be a big no to normal people and as grown ups and decent people, we all should be able to talk each other, or simply ignore, tolerate. Try to be better person is what people should learn, not find ways to justify unrespectful attitudes. I'm latino by the way, and no, I'm not from méxico but I don't care that much.
 

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That's completely wrong, how you did the mental gymnastics to come up with that load of crap I will never know. Also hate to break it to you... White people are in the minority on this planet as well as most races lol (Asians are the vast majority) so maybe do a bit more thinking.
no I agreee with your viticm blaming. White people need to be protected class.
 
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