Students Asked To Leave Multicultural Room For 'Police Lives Matter' Sticker

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I am literally choosing to disclose my bias and accept that my ideas are extreme. I won’t call that unstable as it’s an act of understanding of the room
I don't know how to reply to that..
That’s fair, I am trying to do my best at not pushing my views too hard into the conversation. I do actually want change, I just know my direction too far for most people to jump to.
 

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but the point is still there, you guys are unable to think in anything else than extremes
That’s an assumption on your end because I literally did just suggest something other than my extreme views. My issue with resolving the bigger system problem is that it is considered extreme by most because I don’t want to change the system from within. I believe the system can only change if we stop believing that voting in the same people will make change and if we stop believing in the 2 party system or the bloated government. Unfortunately, those are an entirely different topic that only plays into this issue of the corrupt system
 

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why do people always think you are BORN an officer (and don't go on saying "because i come from a long line of them) you have a choice to break ranks with family same with what college you go to you cant choose your race/ethnic but somethings you can change like career path and religon (even to the ire of family members)
 
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The issue with “All lives Matter” and “Police Lives Matter” is that they were made by and for those upset over the word “Black.”
The issue is only in their head, because the words are neutral, and everyone has their own mental and emotional control to do.
Of course black lives matter, and ofcourse other lives matter too. One should not be held responsible for one's negative definitions one might apply to it for saying something, that is really obvious and normal.

Though I have to say, police lives matter. But their work really is appalling especially in these times. Nevermind the philosophy and worldview "police' bases their modus of operandi. As they are protecting the real criminals of this world.
 

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Turns out the college has replied and said that the matter will be investigated.
One teacher said that it was "racist" however she isn't involved
The dean will handle it
 
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Historically, its Black/POC groups who are by far and away the most discriminated against globally. It is possible on different scales for people to be discriminated against when they have fair skin in particular contexts, that does not cancel out the historic global trend. Systemetic racism in terms of biology was started in Spain in the late 1400s by the Catholic church and aimed at Jewish and Muslim converts to Christianity. Later on it was used to justify the slave trade. Black Lives Matter is ultimately based on highlighting that historical trend against Black groups and seeks to highlight it in the wake of violence against it, especially by the police. The Police Lives Matter campaign is a reaction to white supremacy being threatened and tries to draw false equivalence with BLM, which is hardly possible considering its the only one of the two authorized by the State to use force. Its trying to literally whitewash whats going on, its absolutely right to be banned from any classroom and the children should be educated as to why its so fucked up, disgusting and wrong. Admins, this is meant to be a gaming forum, not a recruiting center for redneck Cotton Eye Joes who are historically illiterate. Videos like that should be banned as should those posting them. Please get rid of them.
 

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Historically, its Black/POC groups who are by far and away the most discriminated against globally. It is possible on different scales for people to be discriminated against when they have fair skin in particular contexts, that does not cancel out the historic global trend. Systemetic racism in terms of biology was started in Spain in the late 1400s by the Catholic church and aimed at Jewish and Muslim converts to Christianity. Later on it was used to justify the slave trade. Black Lives Matter is ultimately based on highlighting that historical trend against Black groups and seeks to highlight it in the wake of violence against it, especially by the police. The Police Lives Matter campaign is a reaction to white supremacy being threatened and tries to draw false equivalence with BLM, which is hardly possible considering its the only one of the two authorized by the State to use force. Its trying to literally whitewash whats going on, its absolutely right to be banned from any classroom and the children should be educated as to why its so fucked up, disgusting and wrong. Admins, this is meant to be a gaming forum, not a recruiting center for redneck Cotton Eye Joes who are historically illiterate. Videos like that should be banned as should those posting them. Please get rid of them.
You said it right historically. Leave the past in the past.
 
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I said it started, I never said it finished. When bullshit white supremacist crap like Police Lives Matter comes up its clear its nowhere near 'past'. Not just that, when the disease flares up in the US, everywhere else gets it too. Thats something the last few years in particular has highlighted where the Internet has taken it to new places. Case in point: the crap the OP has put up on a fucking gaming site. Again admins, ban them.
 

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I said it started, I never said it finished. When bullshit white supremacist crap like Police Lives Matter comes up its clear its nowhere near 'past'. Not just that, when the disease flares up in the US, everywhere else gets it too. Thats something the last few years in particular has highlighted where the Internet has taken it to new places. Case in point: the crap the OP has put up on a fucking gaming site. Again admins, ban them.
The fact that you think open discussion needs to be banned, shows enough about your state.
 
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So you have come to a gaming forum hosted on a company owned server to try and defend racist platforming totally anathema to free speech with that cute yet old euphemism of 'open discussion'? And when I say free speech I dont mean 'excuse for racist platforming' which some seem to be confused by, I mean the right to respond to attempts to silence disempowered groups, which is what Police Lives Matter is about: arsehurt rednecks and white supremacists trying to silence people calling out racism. And congrats to you, thats what you have also done with just that one little euphemism: 'open discussion'. Thats what its used for: trying to open up space to insert white supremacist rhetoric. Its an old tired trick and thankfully enough people arent fooled by it any more. Admins, again shut this crap down and just bar 'political' type discussion altogether. It always ends the same way: taken up by some braindead minority of pricks who arent evolved enough to be classed as human.
 
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Just ignore him. Someone should tell him there is a difference in actual meaning of words, and how words are used, and that it is not the same. To automatically assign this negative meaning to it, is quite, shortsighted and akin to a sort of racism in itself. How do you know what they mean with it, have you talked to them? Or do you automatically assume that by valuing one life or job it means the devaluation of another, is preposterous. Now im sure there are those individuals out there, like you describe. But you'd better be damn sure to inquire a whole lot more then you seem to do with the blatant statements that you seem to make.
The sentence *Insert lives matter* in itself is about as inoffensive as it can get. As value of all lives and things, is the natural order of and for all.
 
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Just ignore him. Someone should tell him there is a difference in actual meaning of words, and how words are used, and that it is not the same. To automatically assign this negative meaning to it, is quite, shortsighted and akin to a sort of racism in itself. How do you know what they mean with it, have you talked to them? Or do you automatically assume that by valuing one life or job it means the devaluation of another, is preposterous. Now im sure there are those individuals out there, like you describe. But you'd better be damn sure to inquire a whole lot more then you seem to do with the blatant statements that you seem to make.
The sentence *Insert lives matter* in itself is about as inoffensive as it can get. As value of all lives and things, is the natural order of and for all.
That right there Admins and in previous posts. Thats the thing to watch out for going forward. No attempt at self reflection, no attempt at self querying, they reflexively do defensive. If it isnt trying to insinuate that white supremacy is a thing of the past, or that its just a slogan, its 'not all people who support white supremacy arguments are white supremacists'. That also alongside the 'whattaboutery' and the attempts to turn it into a 'debate' when theres none to be had. They dont all come in white sheets and burning crosses on lawns. They are respectable looking, they sit on neighbourhood committees, they sit on forums. They dont for a second question themselves. They in fact have plenty of friends who are Black or whatever other minority group so how could they POSSIBLY be white supremacists?....until they start making excuses and providing cover. Thats how you know. There really is no difference and there's no excuse, there's enough that has been said for anyone to at least question themselves if they're culpable and not one person on this forum has done so, at least here in writing. Ill leave it at that. G'luck.

Its also worth pointing out that the only people who go on about 'open discussions' and feel the need to post political crap at all on these forums are just supporting that racist bullshit. Its not politics theyre interested in, its platforming some pretty disgusting arguments because theyre insecure. Just ban ALL political threads on this gaming forum. They can hardly complain of unfair treatment then and there wont be any space for excusing hatred.
 
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That right there Admins and in previous posts. Thats the thing to watch out for going forward. No attempt at self reflection, no attempt at self querying, they reflexively do defensive. If it isnt trying to insinuate that white supremacy is a thing of the past, or that its just a slogan, its 'not all people who support white supremacy arguments are white supremacists'. That also alongside the 'whattaboutery' and the attempts to turn it into a 'debate' when theres none to be had. They dont all come in white sheets and burning crosses on lawns. They are respectable looking, they sit on neighbourhood committees, they sit on forums. They dont for a second question themselves. They in fact have plenty of friends who are Black or whatever other minority group so how could they POSSIBLY be white supremacists?....until they start making excuses and providing cover. Thats how you know. There really is no difference and there's no excuse, there's enough that has been said for anyone to at least question themselves if they're culpable and not one person on this forum has done so, at least here in writing. Ill leave it at that. G'luck.

Its also worth pointing out that the only people who go on about 'open discussions' and feel the need to post political crap at all on these forums are just supporting that racist bullshit. Its not politics theyre interested in, its platforming some pretty disgusting arguments because theyre insecure. Just ban ALL political threads on this gaming forum. They can hardly complain of unfair treatment then and there wont be any space for excusing hatred.
Yeah.. lets not have any meaningful exchanges on the internet.. it is not like... that happens enough in normal life
If you can't talk about something, thats a huge freaking red flag right there.
I wish you the best with the rather toxic mind environment you seem to have created for yourself.
 
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Yeah.. lets not have any meaningful exchanges on the internet.. it is not like... that happens enough in normal life
If you can't talk about something, thats a huge freaking red flag right there.
I wish you the best with the rather toxic mind environment you seem to have created for yourself.
Again, gaming forum. Thats what it says on the tin. If you want to help promote and make space for hate speech (which if you consider 'meaningful' and are actually arguing to platform is the real red flag here), go to Parler or some other wannabee uberrace wankfest that will cater to you. They like that poison and theyll like you. You can have your own little circle there and leave everyone else get on with gaming.
 
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