Students Asked To Leave Multicultural Room For 'Police Lives Matter' Sticker

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Can you explain what you mean by this? I considered it to be an opinion based on the middle part, where you interpreted his actions as him becoming "judge, jury, and executioner." If by this you simply meant he killed him, then yes, it is a fact, but it seemed to me that there were also some connotations as well.
Judge=determined the sentence
Jury=decided he was guilty
exocutioner=that one is obvious

Usually, people don't kill others.

My point was that there was probably some other reason why Floyd was killed. Perhaps it was unintentional. Like I said before, I don't know the details, so please inform me.
When you have your knee on someones kneck for over 9 min while they are saying "I can't breathe" and while bystanders are saying "you're killing him" how much more intentional could you get?
 

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Says the person attacking and belittling their way out of an argument with a comment that has nothing actually worth saying. You just proved an example of your hypocrisy all on your own. As I've said, can't even make this up. Smfh.

And the reason you're a hypocritical closet racist isn't because you "blah blah blah blah blah". It's because you're actually a hypocritical closet racist.

Uh huh. I'm the racist, in a thread about race, defending POC. Well, at least your logic isn't flawed /s
🙄🙄🙄

If all you're going to do is flame bait, I'm just going to stop playing with you. At least try to make things fun and interesting.
 
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Uh huh. I'm the racist, in a thread about race, defending POC. Well, at least your logic isn't flawed /s
🙄🙄🙄

If all you're going to do is flame bait, I'm just going to stop playing with you. At least try to make things fun and interesting.

"I'm in a threat about race!!! I cannot be a racist!!!" At least your logic isn't flawed /s

I have clearly specified CLOSET racist on more than one occasion. Do you need further clarity on what "closet" means when I call you that? Because I can certainly clear that confusion up for you. This thread is one place where you can most easily TRY to hide it but with the constant racist cards you kept playing, you've painted your own picture for all to see. I mean, it's all RIGHT there. You've also just admitted that you yourself are baiting. Awesome! You keep doing all the work for me. I also noticed that you didn't mention calling you a hypocrite. Guess you came to your senses about that and realized it's an accurate statement. Because we all know that if you felt I was wrong, you wouldn't be able to NOT argue about it.
 
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I have clearly specified CLOSET racist on more than one occasion. Do you need further clarity on what "closet" means when I call you that? Because I can certainly clear that confusion up for you. This thread is one place where you can most easily TRY to hide it but with the constant racist cards you kept playing, you've painted your own picture for all to see. I mean, it's all RIGHT there. You've also just admitted that you yourself are baiting. Awesome! You keep doing all the work for me. I also noticed that you didn't mention calling you a hypocrite. Guess you came to your senses about that and realized it's an accurate statement, because if not, there is ZERO chance you wouldn't be able to help youself in an argument against it. You REALLY love the taste of your own feet, don't you?

You're not very good at this, are you? You claim that I'm a hypocritical closet racist, but then have done nothing to back your claim except telling me to reread my posts and say "It's all there!", despite not once has anyone else commented on what apparently only you've seen. You say i'm playing the race card, but then at no point have I used race as anything more than an identifier. You and Fox are the only two who have used that argument against me, and neither of you seemed upset at the term "POC", only at the term "white", so based on that alone, it sounds like you're the closet racist who wants to flame bait someone else so you can find a reason to be comfortable with your own degenerate form of thinking. And at what point did I admit to flame baiting? And at what point did I say anything hypocritical?

Cue unintelligible rant ignoring my questions in favor of flame baiting, please.
 
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Judge=determined the sentence
Jury=decided he was guilty
These two are definitely opinions.

When you have your knee on someones kneck for over 9 min while they are saying "I can't breathe" and while bystanders are saying "you're killing him" how much more intentional could you get?
I find it hard to believe that anyone would intentionally kill someone in public without a good enough reason.

I just read a transcript of one officer's body camera, and it seems like multiple officers thought Floyd could breathe, even after he passed out. The bystanders say whatever without knowing if what they are saying is actually true.

I also found that Chauvin was charged for 2nd degree unintentional murder, 3rd degree murder (which can be unintentional), and 2nd degree manslaughter.

So basically, it was unintentional, as far as we know.
 

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How many people do you personally know that refer to BLM as a statement outside of the organization? I'll put $ down on a big fat zero.
Well I just did, so...?

Colorado is overwhelmingly white in the majority, so unfortunately when I hear someone talking about BLM, it's almost always in the context of a boogieman for the ignorant far-right. Gotta keep that 24/7 fear-anger pipeline running somehow, eh? How else would Fox, OAN, and BoomerBook stay in business.

Where did I ever insinuate that BLM was an attack on me personally?
In the very post I quoted:
Nor are they intentionally confrontational... unlike BLM who actually are.
I'm sorry if protests have made you late for work a couple times, or if you've had a couple bad encounters with individuals who associate with BLM, but that's still a piss-poor excuse to take a hard right into fashy territory. My anecdotal experiences run entirely contrary to yours, as I've been welcomed in marching/protesting with BLM on more than one occasion.
 

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Culture also is a point (talking about the Japanese and having learned to live in somewhat conjested areas without conflict).

That for you its mainly race is... strange.
Culture and race are linked to a significant extend.

My point mainly being - you are selling causal theories of racial character differences, that the scientific community really is not. So where do you get your certainty from...
Typical NPC thinking: Argument from authority. I don´t need scientists to tell me their opinion. I need data and my brain. If race played no role in violent crime rates, then you would expect Subsaharan Africans to be the least violent communities in some countries, and East Asians to be the most violent in some countries, but we see a CONSISTENT pattern throughout the world. Wherever there are different noteworthy communities (i.e. larger than thousand; normal citizens) in a country, the East Asians do best in school, are rarely found in gangs etc. Europeans ("Whites") are between East Asians and Subsaharan Africans.

Are men taller than women? A leftist mind needs the scientific "community". Show me a country in which this is not the case.
Comparisons between countries can be difficult (even though you can see a trend in this list). You already mentioned civil war. Find evidence within countries.
 

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These two are definitely opinions.


I find it hard to believe that anyone would intentionally kill someone in public without a good enough reason.

I just read a transcript of one officer's body camera, and it seems like multiple officers thought Floyd could breathe, even after he passed out. The bystanders say whatever without knowing if what they are saying is actually true.

I also found that Chauvin was charged for 2nd degree unintentional murder, 3rd degree murder (which can be unintentional), and 2nd degree manslaughter.

So basically, it was unintentional, as far as we know.
Of course they would say that. But its still clear he was aware of the possibility. I wont say its impossible it was an accident, but he obviously didn't care very much, as they said it's the indifference that can be as bad as intent.
 
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Culture and race are linked to a significant extend.


Typical NPC thinking: Argument from authority. I don´t need scientists to tell me their opinion. I need data and my brain. If race played no role in violent crime rates, then you would expect Subsaharan Africans to be the least violent communities in some countries, and East Asians to be the most violent in some countries, but we see a CONSISTENT pattern throughout the world. Wherever there are different noteworthy communities (i.e. larger than thousand; normal citizens) in a country, the East Asians do best in school, are rarely found in gangs etc. Europeans ("Whites") are between East Asians and Subsaharan Africans.

Are men taller than women? A leftist mind needs the scientific "community". Show me a country in which this is not the case.

Comparisons between countries can be difficult (even though you can see a trend in this list). You already mentioned civil war. Find evidence within countries.
Race and violent crime are indeed correlated, but a causational relationship has yet to be shown (it sounds like you are confusing the two). Even if there was causation, it would be heavily outweighed by numerous other factors, such as location, income, and sometimes cultural aspects.
Sub-Saharan Africans tend to be poor (since they originate from poor countries) and as a result, they contribute to crime rates more then others. Poor areas tend to have higher crime rates, which means the people living there are more likely to be involved in violent crime. All of the factors are related to some extent.
In the US, East Asians tend to be immigrants or their descendants, and tend to be well educated and are usually at least middle class. I think it is clear why violent crime is less common among these people. On top of that, cultural aspects, such as emphasis on academic achievement, contributes to some degree.

If there is one thing learned from taking Statistics, it is that correlation does not imply causation.
You might already know, but still, repeat after me: Correlation does not imply causation!
 

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Race and violent crime are indeed correlated, but a causational relationship has yet to be shown (it sounds like you are confusing the two). Even if there was causation, it would be heavily outweighed by numerous other factors, such as location, income, and sometimes cultural aspects.
A correlation would already suffice to destroy the fairytale of a systemicly racist police.
Sub-Saharan Africans tend to be poor (since they originate from poor countries) and as a result, they contribute to crime rates more then others. Poor areas tend to have higher crime rates, which means the people living there are more likely to be involved in violent crime. All of the factors are related to some extent.

In the US, East Asians tend to be immigrants or their descendants, and tend to be well educated and are usually at least middle class. I think it is clear why violent crime is less common among these people. On top of that, cultural aspects, such as emphasis on academic achievement, contributes to some degree.
Crime rates among poor African Americans are higher than among poor Whites (which are higher than among poor East Asians). Cultural aspects certainly play a role. And by supporting BLM you are making it worse. If you want to improve the culture of African Americans, you shouldn´t praise their rap lyrics (regardings whores, crime etc) and declare math and punctuality as white-supremacist. Regarding East Asians in the US, Chinese are the largest group of asylum seekers in the US, though I am not sure about their income. Historically, the Chinese were pretty much on-par with African Americans when they illegally built the rail-roads and were treated as a disposable workforce (slaves were at least valuable to their owners). The Vietnamese Boat People started from scratch when they immigrated to Western countries, but they often surpassed their host population in terms of success in just one generation.
 

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@SyphenFreht @Xzi You two are so incredibly far gone and brainwashed into thinking some really fucked up shit that doesn't even exist. Pulling theories about me out of thin air and using them in your arguments as if they have even an ounce of validity to them. Must be nice to live your life in a dream bubble and use fairy tales to make your points. I'm done with both of you. Good riddance.
 
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@SyphenFreht @Xzi You two are so incredibly far gone and brainwashed into thinking some really fucked up shit that doesn't even exist. Pulling theories about me out of thin air and using them in your arguments as if they have even an ounce of validity to them. Must be nice to live your life in a dream bubble and use fairy tales to make your points. I'm done with both of you. Good riddance.
From our past conversations all I know is that you claimed to be supportive of BLM previously, but then something happened to change your viewpoint. You're more than welcome to clarify what that something is if you don't want people filling in the blanks for themselves. It's also worth noting that I specifically said, "I'm sorry IF..." rather than making any definitive statement about your experiences.
 

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Culture and race are linked to a significant extend.
Sorry, but this is the point - where someone should seriously consider banning you for racism.

All the pussy-footing around the fact that you'll try to make racial arguments against overwhelming evidence, that the main factor of "violent crimes" is weather a (subsection of) society is functioning or not.

So the good japanese, who in their own right can (and tend to) be ultra nationalistic, are just such a swell population of people that learned to suppress their emotions in everyday public live - because of race -- not because of a lack of space, and necessity, but because of genes.

At some point its just eff you racist uncle, I'm sorry.

Please - I think I interrupted you feeling superior for something you are born with. So glad, that you won that lottery and now are a normal human being.

I mean eff this line of arguing, really -- go home.

(Because the far-right is known to be so calm and collected and masterrace superior in emotions, and not at all angry because of social factors mostly. Which is why in germany they have their main centers in "failed states" that didnt saw economic development for decades.)
 
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Crime rates among poor African Americans are higher than among poor Whites (which are higher than among poor East Asians).
Can you give me some sources for this?

And by supporting BLM you are making it worse.
I am not sure where this came from, but for the record, I do not support BLM. Many different people claim to support or be a part of BLM for many different reasons, and so I find it inappropriate to over-generalize their beliefs. The larger any given group is, the more ridiculous people there are in it.
As for the group as a whole, I find their actions to be counter-productive. They cause a bunch of problems, but I do not see significant positive impacts. For example, it could be said that the movement decreases trust in police among black populations, which would result in more deaths due to lack of cooperation and less policing. Violent or destructive protests harm the economy of the places where they occur, which, due to the racial nature of the incidents, often happen to have many black people living there. Rather than standing around protesting all day, I think their efforts would be better spent addressing more tangible problems, like improving education in areas with large black populations, for example.

But what really makes them irredeemable is what they did to Mario. Completely unforgivable.

and declare math and punctuality as white-supremacist.
Somehow, I feel like the people who say these things aren't very good at math.
 

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@SyphenFreht @Xzi You two are so incredibly far gone and brainwashed into thinking some really fucked up shit that doesn't even exist. Pulling theories about me out of thin air and using them in your arguments as if they have even an ounce of validity to them. Must be nice to live your life in a dream bubble and use fairy tales to make your points. I'm done with both of you. Good riddance.
Y'know, this kind of statement always gets me... "OMG, sheeple, you've been brainwashed so much, you can't even look at things in front of you! Sure you have charts and data and facts and obviously are bringing up points that have a lot of credible relation to historical documentation that I also agree on, but mine is the realm of truth and you're just living in a fairy tale that is leaking into my truth sphere made out of soap film that is totally not a bubble and making the otherwise sensible and easy to fix world I live in darker!" Those who live in glass houses, or bubbles in this case...

Also, because this thread seems to have descended completely into dogs barking at the dark... CRITICAL RACE THEORY WOULD HAVE SAVED DUDE FROM EMBARRASSMENT WITH HIS INAPPROPRIATE STICKER! :gun:
 
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Y'know, this kind of statement always gets me... "OMG, sheeple, you've been brainwashed so much, you can't even look at things in front of you! Sure you have charts and data and facts and obviously are bringing up points that have a lot of credible relation to historical documentation that I also agree on, but mine is the realm of truth and you're just living in a fairy tale that is leaking into my truth sphere made out of soap film that is totally not a bubble and making the otherwise sensible and easy to fix world I live in darker!" Those who live in glass houses, or bubbles in this case...

Also, because this thread seems to have descended completely into dogs barking at the dark... CRITICAL RACE THEORY WOULD HAVE SAVED DUDE FROM EMBARRASSMENT WITH HIS INAPPROPRIATE STICKER! :gun:

You too. The less complete garbage, hypocritical, and pure stupidity posts I have to look at the better. Buh-bye now.

The tolerant are almost always intolerant.

Isn't that the truth. Thankfully I can keep adding the closet intolerant to my ignore list.
 

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You too. The less complete garbage, hypocritical, and pure stupidity posts I have to look at the better. Buh-bye now.



Isn't that the truth. Thankfully I can keep adding the closet intolerant to my ignore list.
"You guys are intolerant, rather than discussing our different opinions and sharing civil discourse, I will not tolerate seeing your posts anymore! Hypocrites!"

Irony intensifies...
 

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You too. The less complete garbage, hypocritical, and pure stupidity posts I have to look at the better. Buh-bye now.



Isn't that the truth. Thankfully I can keep adding the closet intolerant to my ignore list.
"You guys are intolerant, rather than discussing our different opinions and sharing civil discourse, I will not tolerate seeing your posts anymore! Hypocrites!"

Irony intensifies...
 

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Can you give me some sources for this?
The youtube debater "Destiny" recently had to admit in a live debate, that poor Whites commit less violent crimes than poor Blacks. Since I am living in China, I have difficulty looking up sources. Even the non-banned websites have Chinese versions (bing.com) and function differently. That said, you can have a look at this website:
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/race-poverty-and-crime/
You cannot dispute it by simply saying you do not trust it. You would have to go into its many sources for this article and refute them.
I also invite you to make a trip into poor neighborhoods of predominantly Black inhabitants and see whether you get robbed or beaten. And then do the same in other neighborhoods like trailer parks. If you do this often enough, you can make statistics about it. Have fun and bring a gun.
 
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