Stuck on 2.1.0 after ctrtransfer-a9lh, Weirdo brick

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  1. marine5422
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    Hi, recently some of my friend buy 2DS and do a9lh setup by himself.
    but somewhat mistake, he overwrite the nand backup by 2.1.0 nand.
    And because of nerve situation, doing a system factory reset cause a 2DS semi-brick.
    He was frightened ask me to a help.


    [Condition]

    - a9lh setup 2DS stuck on 2.1.0-4U USA region (that was Korean region console before)
    - No nand backup (actually it has, but 2.1.0 ctrtransfer-ed nand)
    - [FIXED] Boot in to 2.1.0-4U factory reset, stuck on setup menu. (2DS Semi-brick)
    ->>> Now it's boot on homemenu, upper screen is only show half of original resoultion.
    - Luckily, a9lh is completed setup, so it work and can use hourglass9, decrypt9
    - Use Luma3DS 6.6, and recent release of hourglass9, decrypt9
    - Had a knowledge of 3ds system, CFW (Like luma3ds), secureinfo, brick situation and others so on.
    - At least I was used the 3ds when the First CFW leaked (GovanifY/Palatine CFW) and used MTCard Emunand that 2 years ago. So, have experienced.
    - I had a9lhed system 30 times or more. (So, Not a CFW newbie, but my friends are newbie :P )


    [Goal]

    1. Have a Recent updated Emunand or Sysnand with a9lh that same region.
    2. And If I had done the first one, region changing. But first one is more priority.


    [What I did]

    I had oot3D and some other retail cartridge (Bravely Default, NES Remix, Fire Emblem)
    So use a 2DSaver(recently release of https://gbatemp.net/threads/2dsaver-beta-fix-your-2ds-format-brick-testers-needed.457828) first to recover from semi-brick situation.
    Few minutes later, it was fully recovered. I can see the main home-menu.
    I thought it was easy as pie to fix it during this situation. but it was not much EASY as i thought.


    [What I stuck]

    After the recover from semi-brick, I do a lots of doing like this below
    but all of my tries fail to work. see below



    Sysnand (2.1.0-4U) -> System update to 11.3.0-36U

    ==> Error during the 60-70% download, aborted by system and just reboot.
    I did many tries but It can't be complete. Always same situation.


    Sysnand (2.1.0-4U) -> Recovery mode

    ====> Not supported SAFE Mode firm from Luma3DS, because it's below then 3.0.


    Sysnand (2.1.0-4U) -> make a Emunand (2.1.0-4U)

    ===> Not supported Firmware by luma3DS (support 2.1 sysnand only), So can't boot


    Sysnand (2.1.0-4U) -> Cartridge Update to 6.2.0-4U (Bravely Default)

    ==> Update complete, but After the reboot, it show a black screen error.
    " An Error has occured, hold down the POWER~ blur blur~ visit support.nintendo.com"


    Sysnand (2.1.0-4U) -> Cartridge Update to 8.1.0-4U (Ultimate NES Remix)

    ==> Update complete, but After the reboot, it show a black screen error.
    " An Error has occured, hold down the POWER~ blur blur~ visit support.nintendo.com"



    Sysnand (2.1.0-4U) -> Ctrtransfer 9.2.0J/E/U (Japan / Europe / USA / and even my own ctrtransfer 11.1.0-30K)

    ===> Blackscreen. I dunno why, but It just black screen. Same as Emunand
    (I already deleted whole 'Nintendo 3DS' folder after the transfer completed, to prevent conflict of leftover homemenu extdata, so that not the reason)
    People who reply the the mention about this that could be secureinfo_A or a region problem. (They guess).
    So if they are correct, Why is not working 2.1.0-4U to 9.2.0-20U? Isn't it weird?



    Emunand (2.1.0-4U) -> Ctrtransfer 9.2.0-20J/U/E (Japan / Europe / USA / and even my own ctrtransfer 11.1.0-30K)

    ===> Blackscreen. Same as sysnand, Even the Recovery Mode doesn't work
    (I already deleted whole 'Nintendo 3DS' folder after the transfer completed, to prevent conflict of leftover homemenu extdata, so that not the reason)



    Sysnand (9.2.0-20U/E/J Transfered, blackscreen) -> trying to get a Recovery mode
    Sysnand (11.1.0-30K Transfered, blackscreen) -> trying to get a Recovery mode
    Emunand (9.2.0-20U/E/J Transfered, blackscreen) -> trying to get a Recovery mode
    Emunand (11.1.0-30K Transfered, blackscreen) -> trying to get a Recovery mode

    ====> D O E S N ' T W O R K


    +++ ADDED (02-10-17) +++

    Sysnand (2.1.0-4U) ===> H&S injection (FBI, Bigbluebox) using decrypt9

    -----> Failed, I don't know why but the after the injection, app doesn't boot (Black screen)
    and after the power off and reboot, app has been just disappeared!
    (it seems like a very similar with injecting h&s app on virgin-3ds case.)
    I tried to this for install sysupdater cia and try to update, but it can't be done.
    Isn't that unsigned code running is possible on a9lh (maybe not on 2.1 firm?)?
    A9lh running but it's not working... It's really weirdo....


    Sysnand (2.1.0-4U) ====> Cartridge Update 4.2.0-4U (OoT3D)

    ------> Update Complete, Black screen, No error text. JUST BLACK


    Sysnand (2.1.0-4U USA) ====> Ctrtransfer to 2.1.0-4U (USA Region)

    -------> WORKING, BUT USELESS.


    Sysnand (2.1.0-4U USA) ====> Ctrtransfer to 2.1.0-4J/E (Japan/Europe Region)

    --------> NOT WORKING.


    I did everything that i know, but all of them failed.
    The only work nand is 2.1.0-4U. All other doesn't work.
    Every ton of my effort useless, I always back to 2.1.0-4U nand after the tried.
    It's still stuck on 2.1.0-4U now.

    So, What happened...? Is it some kind of new brick?
    Does any expert know this situation or have a solution?


    Anyway, it's still work with a9lh binary (Luma3DS, Decrypt9, Hourglass9)
    The only I didn't get is Higher firmware nand.
     
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    If you can boot Hourglass9, then just do 9.2 ctr transfer. Why are you using cartridge to update it?
     
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  4. marine5422
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    Read carefully, I didn't attempt cartridge update WITHOUT a9lh, I DO WITH a9lh.
    After cartridge update failed, I do restore 2.1 nand backup. So no problem in that situation.

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    It doesn't seems to related with some kind of extdata conflict, because I already fully deleted 3DS Folder after the ctrtransfer. but still It didn't work.
     
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    Well... So you mean that factory-reset and try again? As you see my article, I already fix semi-brick situation by using that.
    And after that every firmware update doesn't work.
    I don't know exactly, but maybe 2DSaver cause a somekind of issue? (As I know it's still beta)
     
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    Seems to have promising results from the testimonials on the thread. What do you really have to lose?
     
  8. marine5422
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    Okay, I'll try it now.

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    (Well.. It seems that you really didn't carefully read...)
    As I wrote in article, I already do 9.2 ctrtransfer, but It just show me a black screen.
    So I did cartridge update for an alternation, but it doesn't work either anyway.

    [To be a clarify the situation, I didn't do try follow the ORDER what i wrote.
    It just some of my tries list. I randomly do everything what I wrote, so don't confuse that.]
     
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    Tried, but Same. No luck for now.
     
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    Seeing as you're on 2.1
     

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  11. marine5422
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    Yea, It's a 2.1.0-4U, quite i'm sure.

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    Another Try
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    Sysnand (2.1) ===> H&S injection (FBI, Bigbluebox) using decrypt9

    -----> Failed, I don't know why, but the after the injection app doesn't boot (Black screen)
    and after the power off and reboot, app has been just disappeared!
    (it seems like a very similar with injecting h&s app on virgin-3ds case.)
    I tried to this for install sysupdater cia and update, but it can't be by this situation.
    Isn't that unsigned code running is possible on a9lh (maybe not on 2.1 firm?)?
    A9lh running but it's not working... It's really weirdo....


    Sysnand (2.1) ====> Cartridge Update 4.2.0-4U (OoT3D)

    ------> Update Complete, Black screen, No error text.


    Sysnand (2.1) ====> Ctrtransfer 2.1.0-4U

    -----> The ONLY Working, BUT USELESS.


    What the...
     
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  12. marine5422
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    To summarize for now.

    All of attempt to System Update(Cartridge/Internet) & CtrTransfer is not working, except 2.1.0-4U. What the HECK?
     
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    Iirc 2dsaver leaves the setup blank, once you have run 2ds saver go to system settings and manually setup all your profile name, console region, language etc, I guess this could be causing issues, I see one person was unable to launch the browser after using 2dsaver until the set their console region
     
  14. marine5422
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    Maybe that could the issue. I tried to setup name/region/language/time, but the situation doesn't changed.
     
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    How are you loading 2.1 if you have a9lh installed? What CFW are you using? AFAIK Luma3DS will not boot the 2.1 firmware.

    2.1 should black screen or give you a CTR Nand failure.
     
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    Hmmmmm strange, and is the ctrtransfer for the correct region, if your trying to change regions your console will be bricked post ctrtransfer until you fix the secureinfo_a

    Iirc 2.1 will boot ok with luma if your on a o3ds, it's only the n3ds that cannot boot 2.1 I think
     
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    It's actually another region console(11.1.0-K somewhat), Ctrtransfered to 2.1.0-4U, and stuck.
    But this could be the reason? I already have secureinfo_A about this region, but even if i injected maunally after the ctrtransfer, still won't work.

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    to: Bu2d85, As I know, from Luma3DS 6.2.x, it supported 2.1.0 o3ds sysnand (not emu).
     
  18. gamesquest1

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    Follow the region changing guide
    https://3ds.guide/region-changing

    Once you have a9lh it won't auto change region, you need to manaually fix the region yourself once the ctrtransfer is finished......not sure if this is your issue, but with a shot ^_^
     
  19. marine5422
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    I'm understand that what you mention, but why is not working either on 2.1.0-4U to 9.2.0-20U ctrtransfer too? Isn't it same region that not needed to change (for now)?
    If I get latest firmware with a9lh, it's easy to region changing, install title manually and inject secure_info_A, And Done.
    so it not a problem i would think, but what I feel curiosity is form 2.1.0-4U to 3.0U~11.3U firmware update (by manually, cartridge, internet) isn't working for now.
    I'm feeling really awkward and weird about this.
     
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    Yeah that's why I'm not sure it will work, as theoretically just doing a normal system update should be working fine.....but I just figure, you seem to have done every other possible option.......last ditch attempt