Hacking structure of IOS stubs

[tylerzentz]

So I understand stubs are used to prevent softmodding attempts by acting as placeholders; they take up space so unofficial content can't be put there.

are stubs attached to the IOS in such a way that they can just be removed? or is a stub an actual part of the IOS itself?

 

[Leathl]

A stub IOS is an IOS that has actually no usable functions, it just exists. And yes, it can still be removed via homebrew.

 

[tylerzentz]

So which IOSs are stubs?

 

[pepxl]

the ones with no legs

 

[tylerzentz]

the ones with no legs

no those are called stumps
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[codezer0]

I'm curious to know which are known stubs, or if there are any homebrew apps that would determine (and let me remove) the stubbed IOS's on my own?

 

[tylerzentz]

I'm curious to know which are known stubs, or if there are any homebrew apps that would determine (and let me remove) the stubbed IOS's on my own?

i think the app "dop-ios mod" has the ability to eradicate all stubs.

 

[techboy]

I'm curious to know which are known stubs, or if there are any homebrew apps that would determine (and let me remove) the stubbed IOS's on my own?

i think the app "dop-ios mod" has the ability to eradicate all stubs.

DOP-IOS MOD can indeed do this. It has a special "Remove Stub IOSes" function just for this. You need to run DOP-IOS MOD on cIOS or on a patched IOS36 for that feature to work though. If you don't have either, just use the "Install an IOS that accepts fakesigning" (or similar wording, i'm too tired to go start my wii right now and look) option to get the patched IOS36.

 

[Dialexio]

Yes, Dop-IOS MOD can detect remove stubs.

Alternatively, you could compare the version number with those of known stubs the old-fashioned way.

Here's an up-to-date (as of the posting time) stub list:

IOS4 v65280 (negligible)
IOS10 v768
IOS11 v256
IOS16 v512
IOS20 v256
IOS30 v2816
IOS50 v5120
IOS51 v4864
IOS60 v6400
IOS222 v65280
IOS223 v65280
IOS249 v65280
IOS250 v65280
IOS254 v2/v3/v260

 

[codezer0]

I'm curious to know which are known stubs, or if there are any homebrew apps that would determine (and let me remove) the stubbed IOS's on my own?

i think the app "dop-ios mod" has the ability to eradicate all stubs.

DOP-IOS MOD can indeed do this. It has a special "Remove Stub IOSes" function just for this. You need to run DOP-IOS MOD on cIOS or on a patched IOS36 for that feature to work though. If you don't have either, just use the "Install an IOS that accepts fakesigning" (or similar wording, i'm too tired to go start my wii right now and look) option to get the patched IOS36.

Okay, I load up Dop-IOS mod there, and both with IOS36 and IOS60 (which it defaults to); when selecting that "remove stubbed IOS's" option, however, and select Yes afterward, it simply goes to a black screen.

Powering it off and turning it back on seems to bring it back to normal though. So I guess I'll be needing that list to go through and delete them one by one, then.

 

[techboy]

Do you have cIOS installed already? If so, try IOS249.

You could follow the "Modify Any Wii" guide in the stickies from the beginning through "Installing cIOS and patching the system menu IOS". That will install cIOS and toss out your stubs.

 

[codezer0]

Do you have cIOS installed already? If so, try IOS249.

You could follow the "Modify Any Wii" guide in the stickies from the beginning through "Installing cIOS and patching the system menu IOS". That will install cIOS and toss out your stubs.

I have cIOScorp 3.6 and cIOS rev 17; installed WiiGator's mIOS, and the rev14 DIP.

But yea, tried loading with IOS 249, and still just black screens when I select Yes to remove stubbed IOS's.

 

[tylerzentz]

Yes, Dop-IOS MOD can detect remove stubs.

Alternatively, you could compare the version number with those of known stubs the old-fashioned way.

Here's an up-to-date (as of the posting time) stub list:

IOS4 v65280 (negligible)
IOS10 v768
IOS11 v256
IOS16 v512
IOS20 v256
IOS30 v2816
IOS50 v5120
IOS51 v4864
IOS60 v6400
IOS222 v65280
IOS223 v65280
IOS249 v65280
IOS250 v65280
IOS254 v2/v3/v260

so there are new versions of IOSs that are stubs, but they werent stubs in their old versions?

 

[BBking83]

http://wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS_History

Mothballed are stubs, for now. They may be used by N in the future.

Which IOSes are stubs?

If you mean on your Wii, well that depends. To find out do a sys/sign check.

 

[tylerzentz]

would it be a bad idea to update all my IOSs to the newest versions with DOP-IOS?

 

[Dialexio]

would it be a bad idea to update all my IOSs to the newest versions with DOP-IOS?

As far as I know, Dop-IOS (MOD or original version) does not install stubs. It's not a wise idea to get the latest IOSes and patch out signature checking, as that may flip your HBC upside-down.

 

[giantpune]

theres really only 2 reasons to remove stub IOSes.

1 - remove the piracy/homebrew prevention stubs. only the ones oven 200 are actively used by homebrew. just remove a stub of 249 and you can install a cIOS there, etc.

2 - downgrade->brick prevention. if you have system menu 4.2 and all its stubs and you try to install IOS60 and 4.1, IOS60 will have a lower version than the stub there, so youre playing with fire.

all the rest of the stubs are really negligible. there's no game that requests that IOS. otherwise nintendo couldn't stub them without rendering that game useless. and even removing all of them clears up 2 blocks is the wii. as a mater of fact, deleting the stubs under 200 will trigger disc based games to request an update even if all your system menu and active IOS are up to date.