Sony says condemning Vita before its first Christmas is 'preposter

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  1. Hyro-Sama
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    Not sure if was posted yet. Thoughts?

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    Let's try not have another Vita thread closed because of petty arguments, ya?
     


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    I'm pretty sure Christmas will pick it up a bit, it's some time after I'm worry about.
     
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    Here's an idea Sony - prepare Christmas Bundles. A complete and utter suprise that will appear on store shelves and will be marketed weeks before Christmas takes place with no earlier notice. Show it on TV, show it on dedicated gaming sites - show people that Santa's got a bag full of Vita's and he can't carry them all. Bundle the system with a game and a memory card, as well as, perhaps, some limited edition trinket to further entice collectors and casual shoppers alike. Then, cut the price temporarily, even if by a few notches, just to make a point. Sell the hardware, even if at a loss, because once someone owns a Vita, he or she will eventually buy more games or gear for it - stuff that you get royalties for.

    Prepare a Christmas Season Blast that will engulf the globe in a new wave of Vita-lity that nobody expected - a marketing stunt of sorts.

    Do that, and you're guaranteed to succeed. Prepare nothing for Christmas and you'll receive mediocre attention.
     
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    The image in the source did not encourage me to pick up a Vita.
     
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    It's times like this when we need a issonydoomed.com
     
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    So long as the Vita gets better exclusives and new IP, I think it's outlook will improve
     
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    >The Vita will be saved when X title is made
    Stop. This is what people have been saying through the releases of Gravity Rush, Persona 4, Project Diva, and Ys V
    Each time, it receives a moderate bump in sales for one single week then sinks back down to the usual abysmal levels

    It needs a lot more than one game. Try a dozen attractive titles, a substantial price cut, and included memory cards. Then you might be in business. I'm not really sure Sony can afford any of that though
     
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    i think it just needs to have 'nintendo' on it somewhere and it will sell. then when the sales look bad again they can make a slim version. then when those sales go down they can make an xl version of the original. then when those sales go down they can make a mini version of the xl. and then make a slim version of that. and then an xl version of the slim. and then a slim version of the slim.

    i can see it now...
     
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    The Vita is just wrong, beautiful but wrong, for these times anyway..
    Sony should have designed it somehow like a PSP GO ( with hidden controls ) but with a larger screen and all the bells and whistles that come with the Vita and try to sell it / present it as a smart phone capable of running PS3 caliber games.
    Also being able to run those cheap smart phone games on their better hardware would have attracted millions of people....

    My 12 years old nephew begged his father for a birthday gift, originally he wanted a Vita, but then he settled (!) for a 500 EUR Galaxy S3.
    And the reason is , he can get more games for cheap, there are more games that he actually cares for and of course the phone can do much more then the Vita anyway....
    And he is an avid Xbox360 player..I mean he can play and finish most games in one or two afternoons....

    Sadly, that's the way the market is shifting , people want their damn smart phones and play crappy high resolution games on it, even without proper controls.
    There is just no room for portable consoles, saves for the child friendly 3DS, which parents see more safe to buy for their kids compared to an higher end product.

    As unsuccessful as it was, Sony was ahead of it's time with the Go and should have sticked to the design and add touch screen and accelerometer like every phone out there, THAT would have been a realistic approach to today's market.

    I if were in charge, I would redesign the Vita and make it look more like a GO or Xperia Play , and relaunch it altogether .
    Or quietly sell it as a redesign, I'm sure it'll do infinitely better.
     
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    What they need is an "All I Want For Xmas Is a Vita" blog as a viral marketing campaign.
     
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    Yeah, duh? Not a whole lot of kids with the cash to shell out on the thing in the middle of the year, but it's sexy as shit. I've played a few minutes of Gravity Rush and I'd trade my 3DS and my left nut for one. Plus there's Persona 4.
     
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    As much as I LOVE to bash the Vita, comparing a true gaming device to a mobile phone is just wrong.
     
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    well I have no personal interest in a Vita i do reckon after Christmas there will be a much bigger fanbase, it just really needs some titles that make you go this can only be on the Vita
     
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    No, it's not. Because, whether you or anyone else likes it or not, phones are quickly catching up to anything a dedicated gaming device can do. There's nothing a Vita can do that an Android tablet or new(ish) phone can't do. Besides hardware controls, but even then, they can all take controllers.

    I think that's part of why the Vita isn't selling. It has no games, get's little publicity, and costs the same as a phone that can play many, many games, emulate anything N64/PSX and below, and can do so much more.

    Maybe you're different, but you're not the general public. They don't want to carry around tons of devices. They want one. 3DS only picked up speed after the pricedrop. And even then, it had the whole DS game selection behind it.

    It's not wrong at all, because I'm sorry, but handheld gaming is truly being hit by mobile gaming.
     
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    I'm just saying that if the Vita would look more like a phone with tackled away controls ( a la GO ) and would be able to run android games as well, it'll have a much greater chance of success, and like it or not, there are people out there buying smart phones just for the games nowadays, I know a few......

    GreatZimkogway made a good point.
     
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    They're terrible at marketing it, since its release I've only seen one TV commercial for it and even then it isn't clear who they are marketing for. Who's their audience?
    Also the games they advertise are usually games you can play on PS3 or any other platform anyway so what do they expect? People to buy a new platform for non exclusive games?
    You think they would've shown gravity rush or something but nooo...
    I mean if you walk in to a store here you see 3DS units everywhere in the games section, Vita is usually nowhere to be found even in paper ads.

    I keep hearing the same thing from other countries too so I'm guessing it's a global problem. Can't they afford better advertising or something?
     
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    Are they saying its ok to condemn it after Christmas if it continues failing?
     
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    Wow, that was... interesting... but no.

    Primo, sliders suck. They've always sucked and they always will. Secundo, the PSP Go's only two real advantages over earlier PSP models were Bluetooth and built-in storage, everything else is exactly the same... except... the lack of a UMD drive, which was pretty much equal to shooting yourself in the foot *when your platform uses UMD's as the default medium* - the PSN store wasn't as robust as it is today and it practically limited users to a handful of games that were available in download form - a fraction of the complete library. The Go took off *after it was hacked*, when anyone could play any game they wanted on it. Tertio, your 12 year old nephew apparently isn't as fixated on gaming as you think he is. If he's choosing Angry Birds and no gaming-oriented controls whatsoever over Uncharted, Gravity Rush, WipEout, Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, dual analog sticks, triggers, a D-Pad, function buttons, high resolution graphics and so on and so forth, then clearly he was more interested in owning a smartphone than in owning a handheld console. The Vita is not a smartphone. Quatro et Ultimo, if that's your plan then if you were in charge, Sony's gaming division would go bankrupt in a year. Sony already has a smartphone with dedicated gaming controls - it's the Xperia Play which you yourself mentioned. If your nephew was so incredibly interested in gaming, he would probably choose it over the S3, regardless of its lower specs, purely because it has dedicated gaming controls. Face it - your nephew chose the S3 because it's the latest smartphone to date, not because it's a more attractive gaming device.

    I rest my case.
     
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    I knew someone would disagree with my claim but...

    In terms of sales? Yes. Like what you said, people want one device which does many things. I agree with that. Why do I buy a flashcart? Because I hate carrying 7 games with me. A mobile smartphone will definitely affect such game consoles in terms of sales because of its capability to do many things.

    In terms of GAMES? No. Just no. Name me at least 30 mobile games over a range of genres (iOS/Android) that is console-like in quality, not including washed down ports like MH Dynamic Hunting and emulated games. A portable game machine serves that purpose, and mobile smartphones will need a long time trying to take over that.

    So condemning the console (in this case Vita) in terms of sales, definitely. Games wise? No.

    Plus, the 3DS didn't exactly pick up steam after the price drop. At that point everyone was bashing the 3DS even more, calling it another flop just like the virtual boy. It only picked up high time after the TGS presentation.
     
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    I condemned the Vita to a lifetime of mockery the minute I laid a hand on it at the test pod in my local GAME store. It failed to impress me on every possible level, and it's not improved since. To me a console becomes worthy of my attention when I can name at least six games that I can't wait to play. Anything less than that fails to justify the expense of buying a new console. With the 3DS it was easy. Even now, the Vita hasn't hit that magic six. I wouldn't mind giving that Uncharted game a quick go, but I'll not spend a fortune on a console when I can only think of one noteworthy game for it.
     
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